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Old 09-05-09, 04:25 PM   #1
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Wireless router help - please

I have a Linksys wrt54G router serving main duty in the house.

We are finding some dead spots around the house and I was thinking of replacing one of the antennae with a high gain antenna to try and solve the issues.

Does anyone know how to get the darn standard antennae off the back of the router box so that I can attach a different one???


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Old 09-05-09, 04:29 PM   #2
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You should be able to unscrew the antenna.
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Old 09-05-09, 04:31 PM   #3
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You should be able to unscrew the antenna.
I know I should,

Just can't get them off.

Is there a trick to it??
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The newer Linksys wrt54G (V8) does not have removable antenna, while the older and previous versions V6 and lower had the RP-TNC antenna connectors (removable).

Maybe you have a V8 router, and thus can not remove the antenna.

http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/lin...message.id=102
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Run wires...it's well worth it.
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Run wires...it's well worth it.

So,

I ask a specific question about WIRELESS, and your answer is to run wires.


Astoundingly helpful.

Really.


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The newer Linksys wrt54G (V8) does not have removable antenna, while the older and previous versions V6 and lower had the RP-TNC antenna connectors (removable).

Maybe you have a V8 router, and thus can not remove the antenna.

http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/lin...message.id=102
Thanks for this, I will check the serial number to be sure, but the router is couple of years old - so I should be OK - I hope.

I really don't want to have to buy a new freaking router.


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sec. 15.203 antenna requirement.

An intentional radiator shall be designed to ensure that no antenna other
than that furnished by the responsible party shall be used with the device.
The use of a permanently attached antenna or of an antenna that uses a
unique coupling to the intentional radiator shall be considered sufficient
to comply with the provisions of this section. The manufacturer may design
the unit so that a broken antenna can be replaced by the user, but the use
of a standard antenna jack or electrical connector is prohibited. This
requirement does not apply to carrier current devices or to devices operated
under the provisions of sec. 15.211, sec. 15.213, sec. 15.217, sec. 15.219, or sec. 15.221.
Further, this requirement does not apply to intentional radiators that must
be professionally installed, such as perimeter protection systems and some
field disturbance sensors, or to other intentional radiators which, in
accordance with sec. 15.31(d), must be measured at the installation site.
However, the installer shall be responsible for ensuring that the proper
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So,

I ask a specific question about WIRELESS, and your answer is to run wires.


Astoundingly helpful.

Really.


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The only reason I have wireless on my network is for roaming with laptops.

Just saying, I wired my house to avoid the exact issues you're dealing with. A friend of mine used to own a computer store and did plenty of networks. He said, "Always run wires unless it's physically impossible. Wireless is less secure, slower and more prone to problems." I tend to believe him.

The comment was entirely helpful. If you were wired, you wouldn't have the issues you do now.
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The only reason I have wireless on my network is for roaming with laptops.

Just saying, I wired my house to avoid the exact issues you're dealing with. A friend of mine used to own a computer store and did plenty of networks. He said, "Always run wires unless it's physically impossible. Wireless is less secure, slower and more prone to problems." I tend to believe him.

The comment was entirely helpful. If you were wired, you wouldn't have the issues you do now.

That is true.

It is also irrelevant.

I am NOT about to start running wires all over a 4800 sq ft house and try to anticipate where my teenagers will plunk down with their laptops.

I agree I would not have the issues, however, I do and I am looking to resolve them as best I can, in a WIRELESS environment.
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In that case, unscrew the router casing and see what type of connection the antenna has to the mobo. You may find a replacement that can be hacked on.
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I have a Linksys - Wireless-G Broadband Router (Model: WRT54G2). It's in a central location and gives good coverage everywhere in my 1500 sq ft house. Which sounds like the same model you have (except for the final 2 in the model #), except there is no external antenna.

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I am NOT about to start running wires all over a 4800 sq ft house and try to anticipate where my teenagers will plunk down with their laptops.

I agree I would not have the issues, however, I do and I am looking to resolve them as best I can, in a WIRELESS environment.
Well, if you find the extra antenna isn't enough, you could always run a wire to the other side of the house and add another wireless router. ie. he isn't saying add a jack to everywhere it might be needed.

Trying to figure out where to position the router to avoid deadspots is difficult. We have guys coming through work and trying to sort it out, and still have dead spots. What is between the router and the dead areas? Too many walls or something like the kitchen with all the big metal appliances? Maybe move the router up to the roof/attic?

Cheapest alternative of course is to get rid of the teenagers
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Well, if you find the extra antenna isn't enough, you could always run a wire to the other side of the house and add another wireless router. ie. he isn't saying add a jack to everywhere it might be needed.

Trying to figure out where to position the router to avoid deadspots is difficult. We have guys coming through work and trying to sort it out, and still have dead spots. What is between the router and the dead areas? Too many walls or something like the kitchen with all the big metal appliances? Maybe move the router up to the roof/attic?

Cheapest alternative of course is to get rid of the teenagers
Oh lordy I do know that. Yes I do.

Yeah, I may have to add another router somewhere further afield.
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Yeah, I may have to add another router somewhere further afield.
Adding more routers can actually hinder a network. Look into a wireless AP/bridge, basically an extender for your existing router. I have one in my shop 35' away for full wireless coverage of 2 acres.
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Don't do repeaters/bridges; depending upon how it's configured, you'll cut your bandwidth in half at minimum. What you want to do is disable the wireless-AP part of your router and replace with a higher-power adjustable unit. Such as Engenius ECB-3610s AP. Situate it at the center and high up over the coverage area you want, such as an attic. It has PoE so you don't have to worry about running power wires. This is 3x the power of your existing unit and I've easily gotten complete coverage inside a 10,000 sq-ft house. I've also used the EOC-3220 directional antennae to beam WiFi to a guest-house over 1-mile away.
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