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    I Made a Terrible Mistake This Morning......

    I just got adopted by a cat......

    I got up this morning and there was a cat asleep on my deck chair outside. I was feeling generous, and gave it a small bowl of milk, and now seem to be on this cats #1 hero list. I go outside, and she's immediately on me, rubbing my legs, etc. She has no collar, but looks very clean and healthy. I hope she's just a neighbors cat, but am afraid she's been dumped recently.

    We can't take her in.....it's a choice of the cat having a home or my wife breathing. She's severely allergic.
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    Well fortunately cats do very well on their own, If it has a home it will find its way back. If it doesn't it will be fine. I wouldn't encourage it to stay around by feeding it though. I grew up with feral barn cats that did a great job on there own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    I just got adopted by a cat......

    I got up this morning and there was a cat asleep on my deck chair outside. I was feeling generous, and gave it a small bowl of milk, and now seem to be on this cats #1 hero list. I go outside, and she's immediately on me, rubbing my legs, etc. She has no collar, but looks very clean and healthy. I hope she's just a neighbors cat, but am afraid she's been dumped recently.

    We can't take her in.....it's a choice of the cat having a home or my wife breathing. She's severely allergic.
    Build her an outside shelter, and be sure to have her fixed right away, that way you can keep her and she will not end up breeding an army of cats that will, in the end, make you regret your decision to keep her.
    Building an out side shelter for her is very easy, just gogle "home made outside cat shelters" something cheap and easy should pop up. Its worth the effort when you go to bed knowing you just may have saved another beings life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timber_8 View Post
    Well fortunately cats do very well on their own, If it has a home it will find its way back. If it doesn't it will be fine. I wouldn't encourage it to stay around by feeding it though. I grew up with feral barn cats that did a great job on there own.
    They may do "OK" on a farm, or the country, but no where near as well as most woud think, in the city they usually either starve to death, die from disease, or get killed by cars, all a terrible way for a cat to die. If she sticks around build a cold weather cat house then get her fixed, it'll do you both good.
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
    Build her an outside shelter
    That's my vote. We took in a cat much like you except we knew where it belonged and knew it had been mistreated. He became our outside cat initially at least. He now goes where he pleases.

    He was doing fine outside though, even in pretty harsh weather.

    btw, we just used a pretty sturdy cardboard box with blankets, I'm no carpenter. Part of the time we used our dog kennel too.
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    outdoor cat.

    one of my cats only comes in at morning and night to eat, then immediately goes right back out again.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Just a hint, feeding them does not make them go away.
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    I got adopted by a cat once. A neighbor cat that would always greet me at my doorstep. I NEVER fed the cat. I would often find "gifts" of dead birds and mice on my doorstep. One day I heard all kinds of commotion outside, I opened the door and she brought along all of her buddies to meet me.

    The cat would often run into the house when I opened the door. I could usually get her to leave. One night, I opened the door, she ran into the house. I needed to get her out because I was going out for the evening and early next morning, I was leaving for a sailing trip in the British Virgin Islands and would not be back for two weeks. I chased that darn cat all over the house. She ran under my water bed. There was no way I was going to move that bed and she wasn't coming out. I left all the windows open hoping she would leave on her own. I came home late that night not really knowing if she was still in the house or not. I left on my trip the next morning with an ill feeling that I would come back home to a huge stink. On my return home I was glad to find that the cat must have let herself out of the house.


    Now if I could only figure how o get women to chase after me like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grillparzer View Post
    Just a hint, feeding them does not make them go away.

    you just cheered up my morning- thank you.

    @Tom: I'm a fan of outdoor cats if possible, but perhaps even that may be too much for your wife. let us know how this comes out.
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    Speaking of indoor/outdoor cats, ours as mentioned earlier go where they please but I've heard that cats should be kept indoors. Easier said than done, I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
    They may do "OK" on a farm, or the country, but no where near as well as most woud think, in the city they usually either starve to death, die from disease, or get killed by cars, all a terrible way for a cat to die. If she sticks around build a cold weather cat house then get her fixed, it'll do you both good.
    I have never herd of a cat starving to death but yes their are all kinds of ways they can fall into 1 of the pitfalls of life even in the country. Cats are natural born hunters & opportunistic. It is unlikely they will use a ground shelter at least in a country setting as they are hunted by coyote and will not allow themselves to be cornered. They usually tend to sleep up high and they do not need shelter. People tend to project human needs onto animals that is unnecessary. They will only seek shelter to have their young.

    On another note many vets will spade or neuter them for free or at a reduces cost if it is feral.
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    Need I remind you that you own a nice 7.62mm solution to your problem Tom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    Need I remind you that you own a nice 7.62mm solution to your problem Tom.
    Tom,

    Do us a favor and use that 7.62 solution on jsharr for making that comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timber_8 View Post
    do not need shelter
    Really? Even if they're in sub zero temps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil View Post
    Really? Even if they're in sub zero temps?
    they're pretty good at finding shelter, like raccoons.

    my cats hide under my porch and BBQ grill tarp when it's raining or snowing outside and they want to get back in.

    since cats are friendlier than other animals out there it's best if the shelter is planted near the porch.


    if humans go extinct, cats will be the king of our urban jungle. dogs are often too domesticated and rely on humans too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    they're pretty good at finding shelter, like raccoons.

    my cats hide under my porch and BBQ grill tarp when it's raining or snowing outside and they want to get back in.

    since cats are friendlier than other animals out there it's best if the shelter is planted near the porch.


    if humans go extinct, cats will be the king of our urban jungle. dogs are often too domesticated and rely on humans too much.
    OK, I misunderstood. They need shelter it's just that they can find it on their own.
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    Cats should be kept indoors, outside they get diseases, get eaten by coyotes, killed by dogs, beaten up by other cats, hit by cars blah blah blah. They are *domesticated* not wild animals. Even if they were 'wild' their native habitat sure as hell isn't North America. Also they prey on indigenous wild bird species, some of which are threatened already by introduced species etc.

    Anyway, Tom, find out if there are no-kill shelters in your area, or a cat rescue or something like that. Maybe the cat has a microchip they could scan to find the owner?

    I'm also surrounded by people who are allergic to cats which is the bane of my existence. I love cats, always wanted a pet cat.

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    Actually, I did one better......

    I found the owner. A little girl who was heartbroken because her cat had escaped (Neighbors kid). The cat definitely knew her too, so all's well..
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    +1 on taking the cat to a no-kill shelter. It will probably keep coming back as long as it knows (or thinks) it will get fed. If your wife wasn't severely allergic I might suggest otherwise, but if there's a possibility that cat dander left behind on the chair could make her sick, then by all means, take the cat elsewhere.

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    See my post right above you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luddite View Post
    Cats should be kept indoors, outside they get diseases, get eaten by coyotes, killed by dogs, beaten up by other cats, hit by cars blah blah blah. They are *domesticated* not wild animals. Even if they were 'wild' their native habitat sure as hell isn't North America. Also they prey on indigenous wild bird species, some of which are threatened already by introduced species etc.

    Anyway, Tom, find out if there are no-kill shelters in your area, or a cat rescue or something like that. Maybe the cat has a microchip they could scan to find the owner?

    I'm also surrounded by people who are allergic to cats which is the bane of my existence. I love cats, always wanted a pet cat.
    Nature is not always pretty and sadly no kill shelters are over burdened. They are basically prisons for cats, a horrible existence for for one of the most successful predators nature has created. A feral cat is not domestic & once it becomes feral it can never be domesticated. I personally own a large Bangle cat that has lived its entire life inside. It is true that a domestic cat will live longer inside than outside but they do very well on their own living with people or on the fringes of humanity. Once a cat goes feral the kindest thing you can do is leave it be. In the case of Toms new friend it is unknown if it has an owner that allows it to run free. If it has a home it will return to it and visit Tom on occasion & if not it will survive just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    Actually, I did one better......

    I found the owner. A little girl who was heartbroken because her cat had escaped (Neighbors kid). The cat definitely knew her too, so all's well..
    Your a good man Tom LOL, I hate it when a thread moves on as I type
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    You are incorrect. "feral" cats are domesticated. They are all of the same species (I was just reading about cats on wikipedia) Also, saying they are the most successful predators is an emotional statement, rather than fact. I'd say a Great White Shark is a much more efficient predator than a domestic cat. A no-kill shelter probably has LOTS of volunteers who groom, pet/cuddle etc with the cats.

    A "feral" cat should at least be neutered/spayed/vaccinated and fed regularly. Cats have been domesticated for nearly 10,000 *years.*

    I had a "feral" cat in my backyard once, my neighbour and I cared for it, fed it, made it a warm and dry place to sleep, my neighbour was going to try to catch the cat and try to introduce it to the cats she already had, keep it indoors etc. At first the cat wouldn't let anyone get too close, it even scratched me right near my eye. The poor thing was old and frail. The last time I saw it I had brought food out for it and it came to me and curled up on my lap, purring. That was the worst part, I would have taken him in right then and there but my goddamn DOG terrorizes cats.

    Old Cat as we called him, disappeared after that, we searched the neighbourhood, left food out etc, he never came back. I tried to tell myself someone brought him in their home but I know better. Coyote's dinner. Poor Old Cat.

    Anyway, Tom, thank goodness the cat was reunited with it's family. They really ought to keep the cat indoors, they might not be so lucky next time. It kills me every time I see a "Lost Cat" poster, I know what has happened. Coyotes eat cats, it's an easy meal for them, we have lots of coyotes here.

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