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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    ok, so it's 3min, up to $5000 fine. exempt during extremely hot or cold days.
    Holy Moly! Wow!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    Every day after I drop the girls off at school I stop at the Husky for a cup of coffee and kick back on the nicely kept grass as I plan the rest of my day and catch some of the sun's warming rays.

    This is adjacent to the drive through car wash.

    I have been amazed and apalled at the number of vehicles that come through here to get washed that are so shiny I can see my reflection in their body panels.

    WTF?

    I thought drive through food was bad but this takes wastefulness to a while new level... it's like washing a single pair of socks in your washing machine.

    Some guy in a 4x4 came through today and all I could see was a little dust on the tailgate... the reflection off the chrome hurt my eyes.
    Don't know about the laws and regs in Canukistan, but in the US, car washes have to reycle the water they use. Here in Hillsborough County (Tampa) Florida, we can not even wash our cars in our own driveways. The only place cars can be washed are the car washes. Who is wasting water now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfin2004 View Post
    Don't know about the laws and regs in Canukistan, but in the US, car washes have to reycle the water they use. Here in Hillsborough County (Tampa) Florida, we can not even wash our cars in our own driveways. The only place cars can be washed are the car washes. Who is wasting water now?
    whatever happened to watering billions of acres of green grass for golf courses and retirement homes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    whatever happened to watering billions of acres of green grass for golf courses and retirement homes?
    Can't water but one day a week. But a funny thing here in the community I live in; The irrigation is controlled by a central computer and we get water twice a week. The gate guards do not let in the water police so I guess that is why the community can get away with it. The last home we had I thought I was being smart by running the sprinklers twice a week in the middle of the night. The water police caught me (with a photo showing my address and sprinklers spewing water) and I had to pay a $150 fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    I called City Hall about a month ago complaining about a bus driver that was outside her bus having a cigarette and then just took a break while the bus was left idling. I stopped my bike further up the road and timed it - 10 minutes. I guess busses don't have to shut down.
    A lot of big turbo diesels have comments in the owners manuals about letting them idle for 15 minutes in order to cool the turbos (oil cooled). Personally, it doesn't seem to matter much, but it's one of those things like Shimano saying to check your quick release before every ride (which I actually do anyways). It's usually not needed, but there's no reason for the manufacturer to rescind the statement, and it's an excuse to ignore the warranty.

    Quote Originally Posted by kidonabike View Post
    Don't most of those drive through car-washes recycle the water used? I mean 100% of the water isn't recaptured and they waste electricity and other resources but I thought it was better than washing the car in your driveway?
    Yep, I know a guy who owns one, almost all of the water is recycled.

    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    they do in japan. all the new buses are equipped with diesel electric hybrid engines, quick fire-up diesel and auto kill if idling for more than 45 seconds.
    That's really clever

    Quote Originally Posted by oakback View Post
    The thing that I find funny is that the people obviously want their car looking spotless, but most automatic car washes will make your car's paint job age quicker, rubbing all those grains of sand and dirt repeatedly over your paint *shudders*. People who really care for their paint and chrome would never use a typical auto car wash.
    I'm betting that the people washing their cars once every couple day aren't keeping them long enough to wear the paint/chrome.

    Quote Originally Posted by oakback View Post
    and see how many big rigs are idling (usually all of them, for various reasons).
    That's actually a good point. The truckers I've known have been fairly conscious about their fuel consumption for financial reasons. If they're leaving them on, they've got a reason for it.

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    To go back to the first post. When I was a kid I WALKED to grammar school, then took the BUS to Jr High and High school. I live near a school now, and it seams like nobody takes the bus anymore. Hundreds of over protective parents wasting thousands of gallons of gas and polluting the air, driving their kids to school instead of letting them take the bus. While I was walking or taking the bus to school, my parents were pouring themselves a cup of coffee from the coffee maker into coffee cups that they would wash and re use instead of adding a cup to the trash everyday.
    In other words you're anoyed by people being wastfull, while you're busy being wastfull also?

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    Running a turbocharged engine is a little different from a straight diesel or gasoline engine... they can spin at speeds of 25,000 rpm and shutting them down while hot can damage them.

    An inter cooled turbocharger needs less cool down time as they run cooler than a non water cooled turbocharger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    I called City Hall about a month ago complaining about a bus driver that was outside her bus having a cigarette and then just took a break while the bus was left idling. I stopped my bike further up the road and timed it - 10 minutes. I guess busses don't have to shut down.
    We have three Expeditions that run unattended in their parking stalls. The MCTs will run the batteries down if we shut them off. I usually get a call a week.

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    Yeah, that's why I only wash my car once or twice a year. I live in the desert, after all.
    When I ride, the troubles just roll off my back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    I was.

    It's embarrassing to be a part of such a society.
    Last edited by botto; 09-28-09 at 03:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by efrobert View Post
    To go back to the first post. When I was a kid I WALKED to grammar school, then took the BUS to Jr High and High school. I live near a school now, and it seams like nobody takes the bus anymore. Hundreds of over protective parents wasting thousands of gallons of gas and polluting the air, driving their kids to school instead of letting them take the bus. While I was walking or taking the bus to school, my parents were pouring themselves a cup of coffee from the coffee maker into coffee cups that they would wash and re use instead of adding a cup to the trash everyday.
    In other words you're anoyed by people being wastfull, while you're busy being wastfull also?
    Humph, when I was young, we walked to school, 15 miles up hill, both way with snow over our heads.... and we liked it! Unlike the generation today...

    Just kidding, though I did walk to school. I honestly think that people can't figure out what is a real risk and what isn't. The media loves to scare people to death. Anytime a subject about a protective device comes up, there will be more than a few that figure it is worth it because what if something happens? Yeah, and my sheep my charge me and nibble me to death too.

    But, with so much fear mongering, people will think you are a neglectful parent if you don't bubble wrap you kids. It is very sad when bad things happen to kids, but you have to balance that we a generation of very fat, very unhealthy kids who are going to have serious medical problems later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by formerly RE View Post
    Yeah, that's why I only wash my car once or twice a year. I live in the desert, after all.
    I do the same thing usually just before winter and maybe in the spring
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    Quote Originally Posted by CbadRider View Post
    That being said, mine hasn't been washed since mid July and I'm starting to have trouble seeing through the windshield.
    They do have those squeegie things for windows at the gas station.
    When I ride, the troubles just roll off my back.

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    Hard to imagine why an apparently clean vehicle would be run through an automated car wash. Maybe it was a company owned vehicle and weekly cleanings are required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crispy010 View Post
    My understanding is they let their trucks idle because sometimes they won't start back up, and that strands them for quite a while and puts them behind schedule, which costs them $$. So for them, it's cheaper to burn a bit more gas leaving it idling than to face the possible risk of the truck refusing to start.

    Overnight, they will also leave the trucks on to take advantage of the A/C system, in addition o the reason mentioned above, and so the engine doesn't have to warm back up the next morning.
    There is a huge number of trucks that come by my town and/or stay overnight. The air quality here is bad. But my town just recently made it illegal to idle a commercial vehicle for more than 10 minutes. Bout time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by efrobert View Post
    To go back to the first post. When I was a kid I WALKED to grammar school, then took the BUS to Jr High and High school. I live near a school now, and it seams like nobody takes the bus anymore. Hundreds of over protective parents wasting thousands of gallons of gas and polluting the air, driving their kids to school instead of letting them take the bus. While I was walking or taking the bus to school, my parents were pouring themselves a cup of coffee from the coffee maker into coffee cups that they would wash and re use instead of adding a cup to the trash everyday.

    In other words you're anoyed by people being wastfull, while you're busy being wastfull also?
    I guess I failed to mention that while other parents are driving their kids to school my girls and I commute 14 km a day by bike.


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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgedwa View Post
    There is a huge number of trucks that come by my town and/or stay overnight. The air quality here is bad. But my town just recently made it illegal to idle a commercial vehicle for more than 10 minutes. Bout time.

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    If it makes you feel better, I have only washed my car once in the nearly 7 years I have owned it. And it looks neat, too; I just take advantage of the rain.

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    talk about wasteful

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