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    I'm not a true vegetarian, I eat fish occasionally. I just call myself one because it seems to be easier for people to understand than trying to explain which meat I don't eat.

    I met a vegetarian once who said she was a vegetarian because she didn't want to hurt the little bunnies. The don't eat bunny, pretty ****ing simple if you ask me. Along with the militant vegan/vegetarians, idiots like her also annoy the crap out of me.

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    I've known many vegetarians, their diet choice is typically based on a health decision. They have all been respectful of otherd dietary choices and also tend to be very good cooks. I have considered many vegetarians as my friend.

    Over my years, I've met a couple vegans unfortunately. They have tended to be annoying, holier than thou, and disdainful of others choices. Those attitudes, in any respect, politics, religion, bicycling, etc. are not endearing to me. I have never met a vegan that I would have considered a friend.

    I am sure there are vegetarians out there that are real holes, example: Hitler was a vegetarian.

    I am also sure that there are vegans, maybe even some that I know but am unaware of their choice, that are really fine folks, tolerant of other folks choices and wants. However, so far in my life I have not met any that are.

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    rabbits and bunnies should be on the list of meats you should eat even if you're vegetarian.
    they're harmful to crops and there are too many of them.
    they're about the only wild life with year round open season.
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    Yeah. There are always going to be people trying to push their views on others, whether it be about food, religion, exercise, politics...If I can't have a polite, respectful discussion with them then I don't hang out with them.

    As an occasional vegetarian - I eat meat about three days a week or so - I can relate. The health benefits of eating less meat and saturated fat are obvious. Also, it's cheaper, and I like being thrifty . Veganism, on the other hand, is only possible in a highly industrialized society and I think only people with money or who live in major centres can eat that way and get proper nutrition. Personally, I don't know anyone who's vegan - either that, or they don't talk about it! I also knew some girls who were "vegetarian" - meaning they only ate salads and bread, in order to lose weight. They were always really crabby, for some reason .
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    Any fringe group, that doesn't believe in violence, are a necessary part of our culture. They challenge our perceptions of the norm. Life would be pretty boring if we all believed in the same things, ate the same food, or dressed the same way. I've had some great discussions with Vegans where I have learned some of the benefits to their lifestyle ... however I won't be giving up meat any time soon.

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    Rabbit is one of my favorite dishes. We had rabbits when I was a kid. The past few years there have been many loose domestic rabbits eating/killing my plants. Over 200 strawberry plants less than 10 survived the rabbits. Many were trapped and caged near my chickens. I was thinking about feeding then eating them. I pet the rabbits as I do with the chickens whenever I feed and water them. I can not bring myself to butcher them now. I pen the females now so they do not reproduce. When I was a kid, there was a woman who sold the rabbits would also butcher them for a fee. I also butchered rabbits as a kid, but did not think of them as pets as I do now.

    I was unaware that rabbits were nocturnal. The loose rabbits are running around making all types of noise at night.

    Rabbits are also not true vegetarians.

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    I used to have a cat that decimated the Rabbit/Chipmunk/Vole population around here. Ol' Smokey died about 4 or 5 years ago from cancer. He was one natural born killer. He ate them too.

    Rabbits just started showing up again last year.

    Chipmunks, once abundant, now I've only seen one or two since Smokey depopulated them.

    I've not seen a Vole for years. I suspect they are still there, but the ones that were brave enough to go topside were long ago turned into cat turds.

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    A friend (vegan) pointed to my motorcycle boots and said "man it took half a cow to make them."I pointed to his sneakers (all synthetic) and said "it took 40 gallons of petroleum to make those.How is that any kinder to mother Earth?"He was speechless.His girlfriend (also vegan) looked at him and said "he's right ya know."Jeff (his name) and I also discussed my deer hunting activities.I said "I'm going to eat meat.Is it better for what I eat to live a normal free life until I harvest?or would you prefer a sequestered life where it never gets to live as intended?"He agreed it was better but not as good as he'd like.I told him that from now on I'll just hit 'em with the Jeep if that would make hm feel better.He just shook his head and laughed.Jeff and Crissy are reasonable vegans and will discuss instead of preach how terrible you are for eating and wearing animal products.
    I respect others choices even if they are ones I wouldn't make.It's reasonable to think I have every right to expect the same from you as I extend to you.

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    i'm against cruelty to vegetables.
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    I know a lot of people who are vegan or vegetarian. Most of them never discuss this unless they are at a party or other gathering and want to choose foods that fit in with their lifestyle choices. There's nothing wrong with that at all. What I do find a bit annoying are those who complain about other people's choices or who say they are grossed out when they have to watch someone eat meat.

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    I think they're great.

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    I prefer people who eat veggies eat them away from me. I hate hearing veggies scream.

    In all seriousness, I have more than a few friends who are vegans, etc. Aside from not wanting to kill animals, their arguments really don't work with me. We raise our own food for the most part. That is because I want to know where my food comes from.

    Just got seven sheep, I am trying not to drool too much as I am feeding them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crtreedude View Post
    I prefer people who eat veggies eat them away from me. I hate hearing veggies scream.

    In all seriousness, I have more than a few friends who are vegans, etc. Aside from not wanting to kill animals, their arguments really don't work with me. We raise our own food for the most part. That is because I want to know where my food comes from.

    Just got seven sheep, I am trying not to drool too much as I am feeding them...
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    If they are doing it for the animals it is the most pointless thing. But if they do it because they want to and don't like meat or whatever then cool for them.

    Every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    I met a vegetarian once who said she was a vegetarian because she didn't want to hurt the little bunnies. The don't eat bunny, pretty ****ing simple if you ask me. Along with the militant vegan/vegetarians, idiots like her also annoy the crap out of me.
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    A dude I used to work with previously worked on an orange harvesting crew. He said quite a few mice went up the conveyor.

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    I have no idea how many rabbits I have shredded over the years haying fields. There is nothing that can be done about it. I see no point in killing for the sake of killing. I have been around agriculture all my life. Killing for food or during harvest is just a fact of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luddite View Post
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    how do you feel about vegans and vegetarians?
    nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom stormcrowe View Post
    i think they are exercising a choice. As long as they don't get all militant on me and try to dictate my choices, i'll accept theirs.
    +1, 'cept if they get all militant on me I'll hunt them down, clean and de-bone them, put them in the smoke locker, never know, 2012 is gettin' close and I hear vegetarians are good eatin'!
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    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmburch View Post
    I thought vegetarian Hindus and vegetarian Buddhists did not eat meat?

    I love some vegetarians. The vegetarians in my family are not true vegetarians. They eat eggs, cheese, milk, etc. The vegetarian Hindus I know also eat dairy products and may even cook lamb and chicken for other family members. So I guess, I do not know any true vegetarians.

    Many do not eat chicken, pork, beef, lamb, venison, goat, shellfish.

    Some do eat fish, scallops, shrimp, abalone, crayfish, lobster, snails, octopus, squid.

    I just think of them as vegetarians because that is what they are eating mainly. I find it funny vegetarians that eat soybean products that mimic chicken or a garden burger.

    I also notice certain beef/pork/chicken/etc. eaters that condemn fishing for your dinner. I am sure there are always those that have a problem in what others do.
    A "true" vegetarian can eat dairy/eggs/honey... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovo-lacto-vegetarian. I am a "true" vegetarian. I am an ovo-lacto-vegetarian though many vegans don't eat honey, I do. Eating seafood is the same as eating let's say, chicken. I'm not sure why people seem to think fish doesn't count as "meat." This is something I will bring up in my Sociology class sometime, it's quite curious really.

    Also, I've never dated a vegetarian, I was married for 5 years to an omnivore, my current boyfriend is an omnivore, my mother is an omnivore etc.

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    I'm a Mcdomnivore.
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    rabbits and bunnies should be on the list of meats you should eat even if you're vegetarian.
    they're harmful to crops and there are too many of them.
    they're about the only wild life with year round open season.
    rabbits and bunnies are made of meat, I don't eat meat. however, can dogs eat rabbit?

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    I am an omnivore.

    I dated a vegetarian a number of years ago and hang out with many more. I even chill with a few vegans and two or three raw foodies.

    None of them are militant.

    Although, I don't often cook for them.
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    Mealtime can be tricky, the rare time BF and I cook dinner together, I make parts of the meal (usually) and he makes the meat parts ie: on his electric barbecue. I remember he once mentioned he was thinking of turning veg and I was quite horrified, I don't ever want anyone to feel they have to change because of what I do, it's totally a personal thing for me. He kinda forgot about it though.

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