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    PBS SHow on National Parks

    I'm curious if anyone else is watching this mini-series...

    So far I have gained even more admiration for John Muir, and his work.

    Ironically, a couple of weeks ago, I went to tour Gifford Pinchot's home in Milford, PA. It is called Grey Towers... While taking the tour, I did learn about his view of conservation, but I had no idea that he fought John Muir's efforts to keep Hetch Hetchy from becoming a reservoir.

    The one thing I found out when touring the mansion, was that the land (which now has many trees), and the surrounding hills were all clear cut by the Pinchot family before Gifford became a forester, and started working toward sustainable use.

    Around this area, is also where Audobon spent quite a bit of time, so I wonder if they were on opposite sides as well.

    I have learned quite a bit about the history of National Parks, including a few that I have visited.

    If anyone hasn't watched, but enjoys history, it would definitely be worth looking at the remaining episodes.
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    Just checked and Audubon died a few years before Pinchot was born... So they never saw eye to eye.
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    I watched a bit of it last night. The shots of Denali were pretty spectacular. I liked the interviews with Bradford Washburn and his wife as well. When did the series start? I only came across it by accident last night.
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    Last night was the third night I think... And I think there are going to be 5 total.
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    I was wanting to see this, but either was out or forgot about it the last two nights. Currently, you can watch episodes on the PBS website.

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    I've been watching.

    I was appalled by what I heard about Pinchot. They named a nearby State Park after him. Will have to remember to spit on the sign when I go there from now on.
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    Washburn is a hero of mine.

    I'll have to watch this here show.

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    Muir is teh awesome! I'm gonna watch the shows online.
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    I started watching it, but don't like its emphasis on the personalities behind the parks. The history of people at Acadia National Park was interesting, since it evolved from private land purchases and donations, but I didn't need all the info on Mr. Goss(sp?) and Rockefeller Jr. Also the Buffalo Soldiers in Sequoia and Yosemite National Parks.

    That said, its interesting to see how the early parks were exploited for private gain by both corporate and private persons. Stuff like the railroads prior to automobiles, hucksters like the Irish guy in Yellowstone and the miner in the Grand Canyon who became a senator, and the exploitation of the Blackfoot Indians. Seems like that still goes on today, although much less blatantly.

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    Great stuff. Interesting. Never knew that about the name "Yosemite".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ka_Jun View Post
    Great stuff. Interesting.
    uh...

    I really wanted to watch this series. Put it on my calendar, made a point of not scheduling anything for these nights so I could watch TV uninterrupted. I usually like Ken Burns' movies, I love PBS and nature programs, have been enamored of every national park I've ever set foot in...

    I tried, I really did. But I could not make it through an entire program on either of the two nights I watched. B O R I N G.

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    I'm watching the series, it's great so far. It's nice to learn about the real heroes who made this happen against serious opposition from commercial interests. We all knew about Muir and the life long fight to save wilderness (for us), but so many others are being spotlighted in the program. Stephen Mather stepped up to set up the National Park Service, when he saw something that would enhance a park or it's rangers, we would get out his personal checkbook and pay for it. His vision is what we enjoy today.

    How many parks have you seen/experienced?
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    Ken Burns' stuff is always great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Ross View Post
    I tried, I really did. But I could not make it through an entire program on either of the two nights I watched. B O R I N G.
    I didn't try. I know enough background of the material anyway, I have enough experience w/ PBS that the only thing more futile than intending to sit down to watch these things is to tivo them and intend to sit down and watch them later. So not even any pretense right now.

    I do have 2 NPs in view, on clear days, anyway, and took the kids to 3 more this past spring break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty View Post
    It's nice to learn about the real heroes who made this happen against serious opposition from commercial interests.
    Especially the community effort to establish the Great Smoky Mountains National Park (local bias). All the school children who brought in their piggy banks during the fund raising effort are heroes.

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    Made me want to up and kill that Cameron sleaze-ball.

    I counted last night while it was on. Have been to 43 NPS administered locations. 19 National Parks.
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    So what's the next one you want to hit? Me, it's this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ka_Jun View Post
    So what's the next one you want to hit? Me, it's this.
    w/ that theme, we stopped here in April

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    w/ that theme, we stopped here in April
    It's a little closer to Pittsburgh! But much much farther from any usable airport than Manzanar...

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    I think it's fantastic, but then again I'm an older guy who loves history, biographies and retrospectives such as Ken Burns' works.

    I do have to hand it to PBS though, as they're just about to launch their fall fund drive.... Timing is everything.

    If you watch or listen to PBS and grow tired of the fund drives, it's even worse if you're actually a contributing member. I must get 20 mailings a year soliciting contributions even though a check of my membership history will show I make my contribution every fall. What a waste of paper and postage.

    Oh yeah, and getting back to Ken Burns, the music and sound editing is spectacular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
    Ken Burns' stuff is always great.
    Incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    It's a little closer to Pittsburgh! But much much farther from any usable airport than Manzanar...
    Deep. I'm glad they're protecting these sites, an invaluable service to the republic.

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    That WWII series was awful. But I have admired his other work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    That WWII series was awful. But I have admired his other work.
    Agreed. In fact, I forgot about that one because I stopped watching after the first chapter. My pop, a WWII vet, and mother also didn't think much of it and panned it after just an episode or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ka_Jun View Post
    Deep. I'm glad they're protecting these sites, an invaluable service to the republic.
    Probably here for us. So close, but not the closest (but I've been to Gettysburg about 6 times in the past few years).
    The search for inner peace continues...

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