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Old 10-01-09, 10:50 PM   #26
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Pcad has a pink deck.
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Old 10-02-09, 02:17 AM   #27
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Looks like the original builder went a bit shallow.
Incorrect. They were deep enough.

That's not the issue here. It's moving shale, the pressure on individual sonotubes, and gravity. I watched this guy put these footings in. They are tied to the shelf rock (he dug that trench with a mini backhoe) every 3' with #8 rebar. Have you ever seen #8 rebar? Trust me, this bad boy is going nowhere. Nowhere I say. The other thing that will help is it will be one contiguous structure (like a house foundation) and in addition he's tying it back to the house foundation every 10' with concrete fingers that will also be rebar-ed into the house footings.

When he dug the trench for this he found the shelf rock by testing the rock. If he could move it with the backhoe it was loose shale. If he couldn't it was shelf rock. Makes sense to me.
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Pcad has a pink deck.
First thing I noticed as well - matches the color scheme of his Cervelo, I guess.
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Sounds like you're on a slippery slope.
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Looks like you have an amazing view from there. How far will the drunks fall when they go over the railing?
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Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
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Has there been any damage to the deck itself? Do we need to worry about it crashing into the valley below while we're pogo dancing?
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So Pcad's first name is "Vince"?
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So Pcad's first name is "Vince"?
I thought all yankees answered to vince, vinnie or al.
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I thought all yankees answered to vince, vinnie or al.
Don't forget Joey
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Has there been any damage to the deck itself? Do we need to worry about it crashing into the valley below while we're pogo dancing?
Hardly. The deck will now have a new header and vertical support beams, a new rail, an entirely new section on the side yard, and will be shortened by about 3' to bring the footings back from the brink where they were put by the original builder. We'll have it re-stained in the Spring and it will look brand spankin new. Actually, much of the supporting infrastructure of the deck (all the ground footings, vertical supports, horizontal header, railings) will be brand new.

This is like the 4th major renovation project I have GC'd since 1988. I should go into the friggin building business.

By the way, I can barely hammer a nail.
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Hardly. The deck will now have a new header and vertical support beams, a new rail, an entirely new section on the side yard, and will be shortened by about 3' to bring the footings back from the brink where they were put by the original builder. We'll have it re-stained in the Spring and it will look brand spankin new. Actually, much of the supporting infrastructure of the deck (all the ground footings, vertical supports, horizontal header, railings) will be brand new.

This is like the 4th major renovation project I have GC'd since 1988. I should go into the friggin building business.

By the way, I can barely hammer a nail.
Your words inspire confidence. Good job there GC.
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Those who can't do, contract.
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Nothing wrong with employing America...
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I thought all yankees answered to vince, vinnie or al.
They often have 3-part names, e.g.

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You were right to nix any Mt. Doom BBQ this past summer because of that deck. Last thing you want are several threads with innumerable pics all about the sad condition of your mansion. BF people being what and who they are, that's what they would mostly remember and talk about. Best to not give us a thing to twist and exaggerate.

Next summer's blow-it-out-your-behind party better be awesome. The whole world will be watching!
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I am actually taking the Mt. Doom BBQ (tentative name Doomstock) under consideration at this time.
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I am actually taking the Mt. Doom BBQ (tentative name Doomstock) under consideration at this time.
Not Caddystock, Cervelostock, Ruestock, Incorrectstock, Samstock or even Fredstock?
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Nothing wrong with employing America...
Never said there was, I wish more folks were doing it so I could get some steady work to afford those luxuries most folks dream of... like food and rent and a new set of tubes & tires.
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you should. it would be awesome. don't forget to invite your favorite wolfie.
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Things like this beg for more explanation.
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you should. it would be awesome. don't forget to invite your favorite wolfie.
Wolfie, you get the Spank Me Suite.

If my wife says it's OK I mean.
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