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Ted Danson 10-07-09 06:13 PM

Speeding Ticket
 
I'm 17 and turn 18 in a month. I want to ask and see if anyone can help me out with my situation. I have 1 speeding ticket under my belt already and a few other tickets for sliding off a curb and leaving my car on the side of the road. Long story short I'm not a perfect law abider with the steering wheel in my hands.
However I am a very smart driver and got both perfect scores on my written and driving test to prove it.

Last Sunday I got caught in a speed trap. It was on a Sunday night on an unmarked county road that quickly went to a 35 zone due to a sharp curve. I got pulled over right after this an got clocked at 51mph.

I was extremely polite and the officer told me he would cut me a break.
By this he meant he would write me a ticket and put 50mph on it...

If this citation goes through I no longer have a license due to points doubling after my first and second offence. I called up the officer and made up a sob story and went in and told him everything hoping he would let me off. He talked to the clerk of courts and told her my story. They told me they would send me a letter in the future explaining to talk to someone at the court house.

How else can I go about getting out of this. Can I bargain and say I will pay the ticket? I cant have the points on my record.


Wisconsin must also be different from other states because the officer is never present in the courtroom. Can't I just plead not guilty because there is no one there to contest?:twitchy:

fuzzbox 10-07-09 06:21 PM

Traffic school? Take it to court? Other than that you can't do anything but go the speed limit.

wolfpack 10-07-09 06:27 PM

tough poo. sounds like you need to learn to obey the speed limits....if you can't do that, maybe you don't need a license.....

i will say that as a teenager, many years ago, my Dad informed me that if i got a speeding ticket i might as well hand the keys over. i never got caught speeding, but i did get a ticket for running a STOP (Spinning Tires On Pavement) sign, but my Dad let me keep driving. sometimes, it helps to be Daddy's Little Girl and have him wrapped tightly around your little finger. :D

Mr_Fred 10-07-09 06:29 PM

What kind of car do you drive?

Siu Blue Wind 10-07-09 06:32 PM

Ya know you are loved, Foo Rat but with all of those violations you aren't learning your lesson. Other people's lives are in danger when you are doing things that warrant a ticket.

If you feel the need, the need for speed (sorry I HAD to add that in...) then why don't you let it out at the proper place like the race track. Join SCCA like i did and you can go to their grudge races.

Trust me, I myself used to speed...

But for now, as a learning tool, HTFU and take the heat.

Alfster 10-07-09 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Danson (Post 9817039)
I'm 17 and turn 18 in a month. I want to ask and see if anyone can help me out with my situation. I have 1 speeding ticket under my belt already and a few other tickets for sliding off a curb and leaving my car on the side of the road. Long story short I'm not a perfect law abider with the steering wheel in my hands.
However I am a very smart driver and got both perfect scores on my written and driving test to prove it.

Last Sunday I got caught in a speed trap. It was on a Sunday night on an unmarked county road that quickly went to a 35 zone due to a sharp curve. I got pulled over right after this an got clocked at 51mph.

I was extremely polite and the officer told me he would cut me a break.
By this he meant he would write me a ticket and put 50mph on it...

If this citation goes through I no longer have a license due to points doubling after my first and second offence. I called up the officer and made up a sob story and went in and told him everything hoping he would let me off. He talked to the clerk of courts and told her my story. They told me they would send me a letter in the future explaining to talk to someone at the court house.

How else can I go about getting out of this. Can I bargain and say I will pay the ticket? I cant have the points on my record.


Wisconsin must also be different from other states because the officer is never present in the courtroom. Can't I just plead not guilty because there is no one there to contest?
:twitchy:

Oh man, you need to have a read:

http://www.bikeforums.net/foo/591906-what-makes-you-expert.html

Siu Blue Wind 10-07-09 06:38 PM

OH no you dint, Alfster!! :lol:

thompsonpost 10-07-09 06:41 PM

"However I am a very smart driver and got both perfect scores on my written and driving test to prove it."

That doesn't mean you are a smart driver. It means you passed the written test, which has nothing really at all to do with actually driving a car, as it seems you haven't figured out. Pay the ticket, change your driving habits and stay out of my neighborhood.

JoelS 10-07-09 06:50 PM

You don't get out of it. You pay the fine and deal with the consequences. You have a lot to learn yet about driving, and life in general. But you're still young, and hopefully the lessons won't be any more painful than this one. The learning never stops, hopefully the expensive lessons do.

Hickeydog 10-07-09 06:58 PM

If you were doing 5 over and got caught in a real speed trap ( one where they pull you over for doing 2 over), that's.....ehhhh....... Not great, but understandable. But doing 16 over???? That's just inexcusable. Pay the fine, loose your drivers licence, and LEARN TO OBEY THE RULES!!!!! GAWD I hope you never get your licence back. And this comming from a 19 year old, so don't call me a stuck up old fart.

black_box 10-07-09 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Danson (Post 9817039)
However I am a very smart driver and got both perfect scores on my written and driving test to prove it.

:)
You might want a lawyer present for multiple offenses like that. And sliding off a curb? what?

Ka_Jun 10-07-09 07:10 PM

Quote:

How else can I go about getting out of this.
You can't. Man up. It's called "accountability", and don't hit any cyclists through your careless driving.

no1mad 10-07-09 07:29 PM

The speeding ticket has been written. You can't get out of it. The only chance in hell you have of beating it is to prove that you were speeding because of an emergency, like being a volunteer fireman or rushing someone to the hospital. If that had happened, you would have gotten off with a warning.

So pay the fine, tell the court you'll take a defensive driving course (in the hopes of keeping your DL), and get to pay the insurance company a nice little bonus for several months (assuming you get to keep the DL).

And yeah, the speed limit is there for a reason. You might be able to take a corner at 50, but what would happen if there would have been some slower moving traffic (farm tractor or cyclists out on a training ride) and you couldn't stop/evade in time?

UmneyDurak 10-07-09 07:36 PM

Wait was it a mandatory speed limit change (black on white), or just advisory one (black on yellow)? Can you do written declaration in your state? Also see what the code was on the speeding ticket. If it's "not safe for conditions", then you can argue that you were driving safe for conditions. Either in front of the judge or if you can by written declaration. Screw paying it, fight it.

UD

DX-MAN 10-07-09 07:37 PM

Ace-ing your written and road tests are OK, but nothing super-special; the tests here are not that tough. I got licensed in Germany w/ the military, and we had it easier than the Germans -- all we had to do was answer 100 traffic-law questions, and ID 50 road signs. The locals had to do 250/100. Oh, and the road test...? Well, if you were getting a special grade of license, you had to qualify, but most times, they cut us some slack. I was DQ'd for a special license because the tester said I "rode the clutch" -- the vehicle was unfamiliar, and I hovered my foot by it.

Use this as a learning experience, because that's what you're still doing -- learning. You'll never stop learning, as long as you pay attention. NEVER think you know enough...remember that.

longbeachgary 10-07-09 07:46 PM

Sounds like you're in a small town. Here in the big city, I have a friend who gets all of the extensions that she can with hopes that the officer won't show up when it finally gets to court. If he does show up you're in the same shape as you were. If he doen'st, you win.

SingingSabre 10-07-09 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Danson (Post 9817039)
I'm 17 and turn 18 in a month. I want to ask and see if anyone can help me out with my situation. I have (1)f 1 speeding ticket under my belt already and a (2)few other tickets for sliding off a curb and leaving my car on the side of the road. Long story short I'm not a perfect law abider with the steering wheel in my hands.
(3) However I am a very smart driver and got both perfect scores on my written and driving test to prove it.

Last Sunday I got caught in a speed trap. It was on a Sunday night on an unmarked county road that quickly went to a 35 zone due to a sharp curve. I got pulled over right after this an got clocked at 51mph.

I was extremely polite and the officer told me he would cut me a break.
By this he meant he would write me a ticket and put 50mph on it...

If this citation goes through I no longer have a license due to points doubling after my first and second offence. I called up the officer and made up a sob story and went in and told him everything hoping he would let me off. He talked to the clerk of courts and told her my story. They told me they would send me a letter in the future explaining to talk to someone at the court house.

How else can I go about getting out of this. Can I bargain and say I will pay the ticket? I cant have the points on my record.


Wisconsin must also be different from other states because the officer is never present in the courtroom. Can't I just plead not guilty because there is no one there to contest?:twitchy:

If you've been caught speeding already and haven't learned your lesson (1) and drive recklessly and abandon your car at intervals (2), then (3) does not apply.

I've been driving for 10 years, as long as I could have been driving. I have no moving violations. The only problem I ever had was being late to a parking meter.

Drive safely. Understand that you're piloting a multi-ton steel box. You can kill someone other than yourself with that. That will ruin more people than you can even fathom. Honestly, behaving like you just described on the road, you deserve those tickets. Pay them, lose your license, and learn from your mistakes. Then go out as a better driver.

huhenio 10-07-09 07:58 PM

Move to New Mexico.

The cops are happy to see you sober and not opening fire upon them.

Ted Danson 10-07-09 08:34 PM

Obviously my original intent was to explain that I have since changed my ways of driving. I no longer speed and am a cautious driver. Always.
I drive a spyder eclipse and the cops are always out to get me for it.
Ticket says speed in excess of posted limits.

I just got off the interstate. Going 65 for 2 hours. It was a Sunday night and there was no other drivers on the county road, thus my not paying too much attention to my speed. As soon as I saw the speed limit had lowered I began to slow and then got radared.

I'm sure most of you understand that a split second could change a ticket for going 25 over to a weird look from the cop for going 5 under. A touch of the gas and a second later it could be 30 over.

The way I see it I didn't deserve this one and I am trying to fight my way out of it. I don't need to be lectured for the way I drive. I know when I go over 1mph over the posted limit it is speeding. I also know that the laws in my state are different from yours but they are always out to make you and I pay more money.

There is ways around a ticket like this for any state but I don't know how to do it regarding the rules and laws for Wisconsin

MTBLover 10-07-09 08:34 PM

Some really good advice in here, Ted. I hope you'll take it to heart, because at this point in time, you've quite well demonstrated that you're anything but a smart driver. You're not a safe one either. Take your downtime like a mensch and use it to reflect on how you can become an exemplary driver. Good luck!

AEO 10-07-09 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Danson (Post 9817869)
Obviously my original intent was to explain that I have since changed my ways of driving. I no longer speed and am a cautious driver. Always.
I drive a spyder eclipse and the cops are always out to get me for it.
Ticket says speed in excess of posted limits.

I just got off the interstate. Going 65 for 2 hours. It was a Sunday night and there was no other drivers on the county road, thus my not paying too much attention to my speed. As soon as I saw the speed limit had lowered I began to slow and then got radared.

I'm sure most of you understand that a split second could change a ticket for going 25 over to a weird look from the cop for going 5 under. A touch of the gas and a second later it could be 30 over.

The way I see it I didn't deserve this one and I am trying to fight my way out of it. I don't need to be lectured for the way I drive. I know when I go over 1mph over the posted limit it is speeding. I also know that the laws in my state are different from yours but they are always out to make you and I pay more money.

There is ways around a ticket like this for any state but I don't know how to do it regarding the rules and laws for Wisconsin

I would give your story to the judge.
didn't see the speed limit sign because of obstruction or bad visibility does work I hear.

fuzzbox 10-07-09 09:36 PM

Spyder Eclipse, well obviously you are a teen and you have a sports car. It is all about profiling.
A cop gave my friend a ticket and he didn't even put the right license plate number. Check for things that aren't right.

WCoastPeddler 10-07-09 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Danson (Post 9817869)
I don't need to be lectured for the way I drive.

As young as you are, and this not being your only driving infraction, apparently you do need to be lectured.

You screwed up -- and you got caught -- man up and take what comes from it. Then move on and don't let it happen again.

Mr_Fred 10-07-09 11:03 PM

Ted, I was your age once. Try to get out of it if you can. Go to court and tell the judge you didn't see the new speed limit. Tell him you felt uncomfortable driving so fast and was starting to slow down even though there were no visible speed limite. That's when you got pulled over. Learn from your mistakes. Try to avoid punishment if possible. Learning how to get out of trouble is an extremely valuable lesson.

skijor 10-07-09 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzbox (Post 9818205)
Spyder Eclipse, well obviously you are a teen and you have a sports car. It is all about profiling.
A cop gave my friend a ticket and he didn't even put the right license plate number. Check for things that aren't right.

Fuzz is right on. That's a sweet car. I went through that phase too...
2-door
import
stick
red
sports car
military town
single
male
....all factors that make insurance companies and cops drool.
You've made the necessary changes in driving habits. Stick with it :thumb:


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