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Old 10-12-09, 02:21 PM   #1
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List: Dog Food Grades

You don't have to agree with the methodology....I just thought I'd pass this along as I found it interesting. The group made a scheme to grade dog foods based on their ingredients, so they can grade them A-F, just like a school grade.

I'm glad to see mine made the A list.

http://www.psgreyhounds.org/DogFoodGrades.htm
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just give them steak
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Bookmarked.. THANKS I've only to anylize and comit to memery.

HEY... how's Ammo ?
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Bookmarked.. THANKS I've only to anylize and comit to memery.

HEY... how's Ammo ?
Doing much better...posted another (probably last) update in the other thread this morning. He came home Friday and is starting to perk up and eat again.
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I feed my dogs raw - virtually no health problems and less behaviorable problems.
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Great to know, I just blew-off a dog-walking client, she's coming home early..........
Pertaining to the Dog Food; having not yet anylized completely, it seems that what used to be considered premium brands are not so highly regarded by your submission and as corroberated by local pet salons (not the big Marts).. Iams, Euk.. others are poo poo'd (no pun intended) by individuals at these salons and small spec. stores.

Again, the full-blown anlysis is in order.

What is it you use Mister ?? I tend to a small Terrior Dog ( a joint custody sort of sitch.) , she's fussy, not a chow-hound.
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What is it you use Mister ?? I tend to a small Terrior Dog ( a joint custody sort of sitch.) , she's fussy, not a chow-hound.
Not sure if this is addressed to me; if so, here is the answer:

I am feeding 2 Akitas, 1 male (11, 104#) and 1 female (8, 107#).They get two "ice cubes" each morning, and a meat/bone meal later in the day or evening.

"Ice cubes" consist of either ground beef or pork organs (1 qt), either ground chicken or turkey organs (1qt), approx. 1 qt of veggie pulp from my wife's juicer, a couple of cans of tuna and a couple of cans of mackerel, any old eggs in the fridge, some crushed garlic and possibly some brewers yeast. Mix this mess all up and spoon into ice cube trays. Freeze. Break out of the trays and store in gallon freezer bags.

Meat/bone meal might be any of the following: chicken backs, turkey drumsticks, pork neckbones, beef ribs, freezer-burned fish, and so on. Each dog gets about 1-1.5# per day in the summer, and 1.5-2# per day in winter.

All of this costs me about $20-$25 per week (for both dogs), but I make it up by not needing vet visits very often at all.
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My pups get the good stuff, too:

Blue Buffalo Chicken and Rice / Score 106
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My pups get the good stuff, too:

Blue Buffalo Chicken and Rice / Score 106
+1 Cassius gets Blue too.
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I feed my dogs raw - virtually no health problems and less behaviorable problems.
apparently this works with cats too, I know of one case where switching to raw food made the cat stop peeing all over a few specific items.

I figured the heavily marketed brands would be lower down the list, but not that low.
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Huh, who knew? Dick Van Patten makes bad assed pet and zoological foods.
http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/

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apparently this works with cats too, I know of one case where switching to raw food made the cat stop peeing all over a few specific items.

I figured the heavily marketed brands would be lower down the list, but not that low.
The scale seems to be slanted towards a couple brands. Not saying there's nothing to it, but I'd like to know what affiliation (if any) the developers of the scale had to the companies that were rated.

Also, it seems there's nothing listed that's obviously made specifically for smaller breeds included in the ratings (like there is with larger breeds).
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Our mutt is currently getting the Sweet Potato & Venison stuff at the top of the list cut 50/50 with dumb old Puppy Chow which isn't on the list (so it's probably a failure). She was on the straight no-grain Sweet Potato & Venison diet for 3 mos. after she came home (so up to 7mo. old).

We got competing lectures from the rescue agency (pro-grain free) and the kennel (pro-dogs don't care what they eat) where we boarded her for a bit as to what was better for her. So after the trip that required the boarding, the wife and I discussed it and decided to experiment... thus the strange blend of food. Turns out she doesn't get diarrhea when on non-grain-free food like the rescue agency said. We haven't yet decided what to do when the grain-free stuff runs out.
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We use Eagle Pack Holistic on the advice of our Mastiff breeder. He's been doing well on it, and I'm glad to see it made the A list.
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The scale seems to be slanted towards a couple brands. Not saying there's nothing to it, but I'd like to know what affiliation (if any) the developers of the scale had to the companies that were rated.

Also, it seems there's nothing listed that's obviously made specifically for smaller breeds included in the ratings (like there is with larger breeds).
The reason its geared toward larger breed food is because it was developed by some people over at a greyhound forum I go to occasionally. I don't see how its slanted toward any brand....the brands listed are those listed by people because they used the food for their dog. That's why some are listed and some are not.

It's not, to my knowledge, affiliated with any company. If there is any affiliation it would be with one of the greyhound rescue groups.
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The reason its geared toward larger breed food is because it was developed by some people over at a greyhound forum I go to occasionally. I don't see how its slanted toward any brand....the brands listed are those listed by people because they used the food for their dog. That's why some are listed and some are not.

It's not, to my knowledge, affiliated with any company. If there is any affiliation it would be with one of the greyhound rescue groups.
ok. Thanks for the fill-in. The principals seem reasonable, but I suspect the rating system is a little arbitrary.
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All of this costs me about $20-$25 per week (for both dogs), but I make it up by not needing vet visits very often at all.
How often did you go to the vet before feeding raw?
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Another grading site is http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/ There are quite a feww different dog foods listed,you just have to check each grade.
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Pretty much all the dog foods here are classed at C or lower. Silky gets meat and bones, with papaya (whether I give it to him or not! He loves papaya!)

He wants to experiment with our sheep flock, but I have told him they are off limits until they are butchered. Doesn't stop him from staring at them, licking his chops like a starved wolf though...
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They ain't that picky, if it is bleeding, they are happy.

Our dog is weird in one way, if I am eating it, he wants it. He does like cukes straight from the garden and okra, raw. Not so happy with limes, but enjoys eating oranges with me. He gets lots of protein, so a little of these things are fine. Papaya is his favorite though. If I am fishing and bring a papaya, I have to put it up in a tree or I will start noticing teeth marks.
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I have some friends that used to cook for their dog.
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Pretty much all the dog foods here are classed at C or lower. Silky gets meat and bones, with papaya (whether I give it to him or not! He loves papaya!)

He wants to experiment with our sheep flock, but I have told him they are off limits until they are butchered. Doesn't stop him from staring at them, licking his chops like a starved wolf though...
I'm licking my chops too, mostly because I need the raw fleece for hand-spinning.
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How often did you go to the vet before feeding raw?
Maybe 3-4 times/year per dog, at ~$50-100 per visit (10 years ago). Nowadays we go maybe once a year for a heartworm check and refill of the HW medicine, and vaccine every 3rd year.

We originally found this diet when we had an older dog diagnosed with cancer, and the operation was way too expensive with no guarantees. We changed to the raw diet, and she gained another year of happy & relatively healthy life. The two I have now have been fed raw since they were pups.
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My dog grew up on, and still eats one of the Hall of Shame foods.
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I feed my dogs what I eat mixed in with Purina dog Chow, they do great, so yeah.
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