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Old 10-23-09, 10:00 AM   #1
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A serious discussion

If a tree falls in a forest and there isn't anyone around to hear it fall, does it make a noise?
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Did you hear something?
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Me neither. Must not have happened.
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zombie serious

Often shortened to zomberious, zombie serious is the sheer pinnacle of serious.There is no seriousness more serious than zombie serious.
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zombie serious

Often shortened to zomberious, zombie serious is the sheer pinnacle of serious.There is no seriousness more serious than zombie serious.
That's weird. I always thought dead serious was more serious than Zombie serious?
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Yes, it makes noise. Noise or sound is simply vibrations through a medium. A tree hitting the ground will certainly cause vibrations, thus, noise.
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But if no one is there to recieve said vibrations, it doesn't count.
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But if no one is there to recieve said vibrations, it doesn't count.
the vibrations are still there. Just because they don't pass into a detector doesn't mean they're nonexistent.
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the vibrations are still there. Just because they don't pass into a detector doesn't mean they're nonexistent.
ahhhh not quite. I suggest to you Shrodinger's cat theory. Something does not exist unless someone is there to observe it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger's_cat
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ahhhh not quite. I suggest to you Shrodinger's cat theory. Something does not exist unless someone is there to observe it.

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I thought that was Heisenberg's Hotdog theory!
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If a man is all alone in the woods without a woman within a thousand miles, is he still wrong?
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Of course! duh!
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ahhhh not quite. I suggest to you Shrodinger's cat theory. Something does not exist unless someone is there to observe it.

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Yes, it makes noise. Noise or sound is simply vibrations through a medium. A tree hitting the ground will certainly cause vibrations, thus, noise.
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If a tree falls in a forest and there isn't anyone around to hear it fall, does it make a noise?
I asked the Forrest critters, they said yes.
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If a tree falls in a forest and there isn't anyone around to hear it fall, does it make a noise?
*William Shatner voice-over*

Clearly we cannot answer this question until we have specific definitions for "tree", "anyone" and "noise". What kind of tree? A large tree? A small tree? One nearing the end of its lifespan? One that has been brought to an untimely end by an industrious Castoridae? Have beavers achieved true consciousness? These, and many other questions, remain unanswered....

*cue Unsolved Mysteries theme music*
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*William Shatner voice-over*

Clearly we cannot answer this question until we have specific definitions for "tree", "anyone" and "noise". What kind of tree? A large tree? A small tree? One nearing the end of its lifespan? One that has been brought to an untimely end by an industrious Castoridae? Have beavers achieved true consciousness? These, and many other questions, remain unanswered....

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*William Shatner voice-over*

Clearly we cannot answer this question until we have specific definitions for "tree", "anyone" and "noise". What kind of tree? A large tree? A small tree? One nearing the end of its lifespan? One that has been brought to an untimely end by an industrious Castoridae? Have beavers achieved true consciousness? These, and many other questions, remain unanswered....

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Holy mixed references Batman!


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ahhhh not quite. I suggest to you Shrodinger's cat theory. Something does not exist unless someone is there to observe it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger's_cat
Incorrect. You can make reasonable assumptions about the world. If cats naturally came in completely sealed, sound proof boxes, you could assume that the next box will contain a cat.

We know that observations of tree falling have concluded that they cause vibrations that our ears pick up as noise. We can then reasonable assume that any tree falling will cause similar vibrations.
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That sort of thinking hurts my head.
It's definitely awe inspiring.
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ahhh, crap. "Rescue 911" was always on after "Unsolved Mysteries".
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