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    The Site Administrator: Currently at home recovering from a couple of strokes,please contact my assistnt admins for forum issues Tom Stormcrowe's Avatar
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    Minor Rant: How Can you Lose 25 points on a term research paper?

    For being too technical and in depth?

    Yeah, I kid you not! I got gigged for 25 points on a research paper for Oceanography on Freshwater Fish Parasitic Diseases. That was my assigned topic. I approached it from an Epidemiological perspective, utilizing study resources from well documented studies in SE Asia, The US, and Africa, and even tied it up neatly with long term effect of undiagnosed parasitic infections in US immigrants. Blahhhhrg!

    Still a very solid A, but I really feel like I got gigged just for the sake of getting gigged for points.
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    Boo for gigging points just to gig points!
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    When I kept tropical fish they would sometimes get Ichthyophthirius multifilis.
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    The Site Administrator: Currently at home recovering from a couple of strokes,please contact my assistnt admins for forum issues Tom Stormcrowe's Avatar
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    I should clarify, the paper was on human health risks associated with freshwater fish parasites (Tapeworms and Flukes) and consumption of raw fish.

    By the way, the definition of irony......going out several times for Sushi and Sashimi during the process of researching and writing this paper.
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    You should have waited to post this until after you give Luddite the go-ahead with her paper.
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    did ya talk to the teacher?
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    That makes no sense, Tom. +1 to cohophysh. I'd find out exactly what was done wrong. Make sure it's precise and not vague at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    For being too technical and in depth?

    Yeah, I kid you not! I got gigged for 25 points on a research paper for Oceanography on Freshwater Fish Parasitic Diseases. That was my assigned topic. I approached it from an Epidemiological perspective, utilizing study resources from well documented studies in SE Asia, The US, and Africa, and even tied it up neatly with long term effect of undiagnosed parasitic infections in US immigrants. Blahhhhrg!

    Still a very solid A, but I really feel like I got gigged just for the sake of getting gigged for points.
    what did they say they gigged you for?

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    If you're adamant on the point loss, consult the professor. They'll either fold like a crappy lawn chair or give you a good case of BS. Either way, you'll at least have closure on it.
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    Three questions:
    - How do you get an A with 25 points off?
    - Was "too technical and in-depth" the actual comment explaining the point deductions?
    - Can you appeal?

    And two conditions under which it might be justified:
    - "Too technical" is code for "badly written" (unlikely, I'm thinking)
    - You went way over a word limit (even in the case of an excellent paper, it could be argued that you did not fulfill the requirements of the assignment)

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    The Site Administrator: Currently at home recovering from a couple of strokes,please contact my assistnt admins for forum issues Tom Stormcrowe's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbcb View Post
    Three questions:
    - How do you get an A with 25 points off?
    - Was "too technical and in-depth" the actual comment explaining the point deductions?
    - Can you appeal?

    And two conditions under which it might be justified:
    - "Too technical" is code for "badly written" (unlikely, I'm thinking)
    - You went way over a word limit (even in the case of an excellent paper, it could be argued that you did not fulfill the requirements of the assignment)
    I was inside the word limit, no issues, there. I lost 25 points out of 300 possible for the paper. I know, I'm a grade grubber. I didn't lose any points on the structure or grammar of the paper. It was a grade by committee from the TA's, though, and one of them hates to give perfect scores, period. He was the one that said it was too technical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    I was inside the word limit, no issues, there. I lost 25 points out of 300 possible for the paper. I know, I'm a grade grubber. I didn't lose any points on the structure or grammar of the paper. It was a grade by committee from the TA's, though, and one of them hates to give perfect scores, period. He was the one that said it was too technical.
    Appeal that! If it's perfect, it's perfect, regardless of who doesn't like to give out perfect scores.

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    Man, if I got an A on the Evil Anth Assignment due this week, I'd kiss your cat.

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    it was the russian judge

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    My math professor is a jerk and will mark points off for doing extra work, which I find ridiculous.

    Every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzbox View Post
    My math professor is a jerk and will mark points off for doing extra work, which I find ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bklyn
    Obviously, the guy's like a 12th level white wizard or something. His mere presence is a danger to mortals.

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    I'd ask about it Tom. Just so that you will satisfied with knowing and so they know that you are genuinely concerned. Perhaps some kind of better conclusion can come out of this.

    Oh and congrats on the A
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    I was inside the word limit, no issues, there. I lost 25 points out of 300 possible for the paper. I know, I'm a grade grubber. I didn't lose any points on the structure or grammar of the paper. It was a grade by committee from the TA's, though, and one of them hates to give perfect scores, period. He was the one that said it was too technical.
    That's silly! Definitely appeal.

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    i think professors get bored and decide to use students as their amusement objects...

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    Oh geeze. If the first impression I got is right, that's such a terrible way to kill oneself...attempting to lay the guilt for one's troubles on a another person by doing the deed in front of them.
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    My wife's students complain to her about grades all the time. She always says "Well, my office door is always open if you want to talk about it." They never show up.

    Tom, show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    I should clarify, the paper was on human health risks associated with freshwater fish parasites (Tapeworms and Flukes) and consumption of raw fish.

    By the way, the definition of irony......going out several times for Sushi and Sashimi during the process of researching and writing this paper.
    You need to invite your prof out for some sushi.....maybe some puffer fish for him
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    hang on a second. let's take a break from the pity party.

    tom gets an A and is whinging? oh please stop. you're breaking my heart!
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