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Old 10-28-09, 08:58 AM   #1
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300ZX....Good? Bad?

Any of ya'll know anything about the Nissan 300ZX? Good? Bad? Would you pay $12K for a 20 year old vehicle...with only 50K miles....that is absolutely immaculate?? I'm really tired of driving a grandma car and looking for something sporty to drive. I really like the looks of this car but I'm just having trouble with '20 years old'. LINK

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Old 10-28-09, 09:23 AM   #2
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The 300 was a fun car back in the day. I am not sure I'd shell out 12k for it tho. Seems a bit steep.
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Old 10-28-09, 09:25 AM   #3
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Hmm... for $12,000 I'd probably look around for a better deal.

A few months ago, I bought a 1983 Toyota pickup with about 50,000 miles. I was concerned about buying an older vehicle, but it was in great shape and I paid $2200 for it. I've since put about $1500 into it and now have a vehicle that should last another 100-150K miles at least. Parts are still available and there are still mechanics around that know how to work on the engine. Can you say that about the Nissan? Maybe.
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And it's an automatic? FREE or look for something else.
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The Kelly blue book value for excellent condition 1990 300zx turbo LOADED- is $6800 (in the NYC metro area). They are WAY overcharging.

That said, it is a good car, fun to drive, but better in a 5speed manual.
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Old 10-28-09, 12:38 PM   #6
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The Kelly blue book value for excellent condition 1990 300zx turbo LOADED- is $6800 (in the NYC metro area). They are WAY overcharging.

That said, it is a good car, fun to drive, but better in a 5speed manual.
Yeah..that's about what I came up with too. It's a really nice car but I think they have it way over priced. I'd prolly give 68 for it.

As far as it being an auto....I'd rather have a manual too, but my messed up body no longer allows me to drive a stick. I could do it if I had to but I would not feel safe.
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Old 10-28-09, 01:01 PM   #7
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I bought a new 300Zx twin turbo (Z32) in 1991 and sold it when I bought the 350Z (Z33) in 2003. Odometer read 67K. It sold for my asking price ($10,800).

The Z32 was waaaay ahead of it's time. Super HICAS steering, auto temp control, superior handling at speed. If the car is in immaculate condidtion (and a twin turbo) a Z enthusiast will pay the $12K and not blink. Too bad it doesn't have leather interior, but everything looks tip-top.

The Z32 motor was never easy to service....but very relaible.

Cost perspective: in 1991 the Z32 twin turbo had a sticker price of ~$38K.
The normally aspirated Z33 I bought in 2003 was fully loaded with NAV, leather, traction control, every available option excepRays Engineering track wheels and it MSPR'd for ~$33k.

The Z32 was a high quailty build imo. Z33 not so much.

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Old 10-28-09, 01:15 PM   #8
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Pic of Z32 being off loaded. Great car.
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Old 10-28-09, 01:31 PM   #9
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12K is a bit much for that car, even with the turbo. I'd hunt around for something with a 5-speed.
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Manual transmission are more reliable and costs less to maintain over the lifespan of the car. Most of that costs in maintaining an automatic comes in the 2nd-half of the lifespan. So if you're buying a used car, go for the manual or else you'll end up paying most of the maintenance costs for an automatic anyway.
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Old 10-28-09, 01:54 PM   #11
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..... If the car is in immaculate condidtion (and a twin turbo)
It is.... and... it is.

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Cost perspective: in 1991 the Z32 twin turbo had a sticker price of ~$38K.
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..... I'd hunt around for something with a 5-speed.
Read my last reply.
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It would put you on your insurance agent's Christmas card list for certain.
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Read my last reply.
Aaah, crap. Sorry.

As far as the sports car market, I really hate how people drive up prices based on "their" assumption of what it's worth. I own a boosted sports car, and I know I'll never get what it's worth, even though it's 3 times rarer than a turbo 300Z. They sold 18,274 turbo Z32's in the US. GM only made 5,806 cars like mine, it's only 3 years old, just as fast as the 300Z turbo, and it's only worth $11,000.

What can we say? It's supply and demand. If someone will pay $12K for it, then it's worth that much. If you have your heart set on one, keep your eyes open and scrounge the Z boards. I'm sure something will turn up.
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Old 10-28-09, 02:44 PM   #14
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Yeah....That's too much for a 20 year old car. I don't necessarily want one of these. Although I do like it a lot. I just want something sportier than a freakin' 2001 Accord sedan. That order should be easy enough to fill.
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Old 10-28-09, 06:07 PM   #15
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With your user name I would have assumed that you'd buy yourself an LS1 F-body in good shape for half that. The 300zx is a beautiful car, and it seems like an auto is unfortunately a requirement (although I still feel that real sports cars have 5 lugs, 3 pedals, and power to the rear wheels for most people).
I guess it depends on what you want to do. If you want something that looks sporty and feels fast while going slow, but feels ok going fast, a Miata is pretty good for that. If you want something a bit less, well Miata like then a 300zx is a good call, but I'm pretty sure you can find an equivalent one for less. Going fast in a strait line but don't mind a lot of them on the road, something with a Chevy LS1 in it.
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Old 10-28-09, 06:09 PM   #16
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Yeah..that's about what I came up with too. It's a really nice car but I think they have it way over priced. I'd prolly give 68 for it.

As far as it being an auto....I'd rather have a manual too, but my messed up body no longer allows me to drive a stick. I could do it if I had to but I would not feel safe.
Simple, show them Bluebook, make a counteroffer of 6000, and allow yourself to be negotiated up.
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Old 10-28-09, 06:11 PM   #17
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Old 10-28-09, 06:44 PM   #18
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Overpriced, I bought a bulldozer for that much this year, a lot more fun.
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Old 10-28-09, 07:55 PM   #19
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With your user name I would have assumed that you'd buy yourself an LS1 F-body .......Going fast in a strait line but don't mind a lot of them on the road, something with a Chevy LS1 in it.
No thanks, I'll stick with my other car for the "strait line" stuff....



....and go as fast as I want to go...LEGALLY.

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Very cool, entertaining, funny video LesMc. Makes me want one. Still think $12K is a bit much for a 20 Y/O car.
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Very cool, entertaining, funny video LesMc. Makes me want one. Still think $12K is a bit much for a 20 Y/O car.
Why don't you send them an email on youtube. Ask the owner any questions on your mind about it.
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Holy crap!

yeah...

In the final year of the Z32 chasis...1996, the MSRP was approaching $50,000 for a twin turbo. The final 300 "commemorative editions" may have been priced over $50K.

Nissan found themselves competing with M series BMWs and Porsches. Nisaan decided to bow out, as did Toyota with their monster cast iron block Supra.

The four wheel steering (super HICAS) on the Z was amazing though...I never felt like I was gonna lose it in a corner...handling was very predictable. The cockpit was ergo and tight and the interior materials were top notch...did not fade, warp or crack over the 13 years I had the car.

If I was in the market for this car I'd offer $10K (after a qualified VG30DETT mechanic checks out the motor and turbos)...Z32TT in this condition is sought after in the Z community.

btw nice vid LesMc
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Old 10-29-09, 07:16 AM   #23
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....In the final year of the Z32 chasis...1996, the MSRP was approaching $50,000 for a twin turbo. The final 300 "commemorative editions" may have been priced over $50K.... LesMc
Double holy crap! I had no idea.
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I drove a 300ZX Twin Turbo in dark grey metallic, T-Tops, Auto, back in '89. It was awesome! It had 280hp and was 2+2. The Twin Turbo T-Top 2+2 was the only model officially available in UK. It was also available as a 2 seater and convertible in various other markets.
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No thanks, I'll stick with my other car for the "strait line" stuff....

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....and go as fast as I want to go...LEGALLY.
You're defining "speed" as top speed whereas I've had enough fun defining it as getting to speed quickly, also legal. One question though, since I've had a couple friends who drag, do you still feel like it was worth the hassle of charging to remove the alternator?
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