Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Foo Off-Topic chit chat with no general subject.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-03-09, 04:45 PM   #1
Siu Blue Wind
Flowers for mom
Thread Starter
 
Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 10,950
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 61 Post(s)
Counterfeit items

Without making this P and R material, I'd like to hear your comments in regards to purchasing or selling counterfeit items. I'm not talking about copies or look alikes, but rather items that carry the logo or name of a reputable company.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddha
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
Quote:
Originally Posted by making View Post
Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.
Siu Blue Wind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 04:49 PM   #2
GP 
Senior Member
 
GP's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 7,582
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
I think it's theft.
GP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:01 PM   #3
edbikebabe
runnin' down a dream
 
edbikebabe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Somewhere out there
Bikes: Turner Flux, Orbea Onix Dama.
Posts: 2,764
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Ummm.... It's wrong?
edbikebabe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:02 PM   #4
coasting 
Still can't climb
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Limey in Taiwan
Bikes:
Posts: 22,645
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
this is a trick question isn't it?
__________________
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer

No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:10 PM   #5
HardyWeinberg
GATC
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: south Puget Sound
Bikes:
Posts: 7,495
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 47 Post(s)
Do you mean perfect counterfeits or just 'close' (Romex watches...)
HardyWeinberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:12 PM   #6
KingTermite 
On my TARDIScycle!
 
KingTermite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Eastside Seattlite Termite Mound
Bikes: Trek 520, Trek Navigator 300, Peugeot Versailles PE10DE
Posts: 3,924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
Do you mean perfect counterfeits or just 'close' (Romex watches...)
I was thinking of the Soni stereos I saw a report on once...20/20 or 60 minutes.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
- it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.
KingTermite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:12 PM   #7
LesMcLuffAlot
Pedal faster not harder.
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Thunder Bay
Bikes: Ummmm...Cannondale F4000..Ummmmm...Yeti ARC-X Cyclocross..Ummmm...Rocky Mountain Vertex TO with a BionX PL350 Electric Conversion...Ummmmm..Rocky Mountain Cardiac..Ummmm..thats it for now I think. I'd have to go look in the basement to be sure.
Posts: 576
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Do you own and wear a shirt with an image of Bob Marley on it? Beware.

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...s.html?ref=rss

Toronto firm gets up, stands up for Bob Marley trademark rights

Late reggae legend's brand 'could be bigger than Elvis,' CEO says

In the heart of Toronto's financial district, one private equity firm has landed a gig to crack down on counterfeiters using the image of the most famous reggae musician the world has known.

Faced with a global black market of Bob Marley goods, the Jamaican reggae legend's family turned to Hilco Consumer Capital to regain control of the late musician's image.
Marley's relatives entrusted Hilco's Toronto-based CEO Jamie Salter to broker licensing deals and crack down on bootlegs.

In an interview from Miami this week, Cedilla Marley told CBC News her family found Salter a natural fit to protect her father's legacy.
"We heard Canadians do it better," she said with a laugh. "We think Jamie is just a great guy, his whole team.… We've always been a family that goes after gut instincts."
Hilco estimates Marley's image might bring in about $1 billion worldwide every year.
"We feel very strongly that this brand could be bigger than Elvis Presley," Salter said.
Marley's image has been a pot of gold to the counterfeit industry — until now, Salter said. He said there's already been trademark enforcement success in Britain and south of the border.
"Two major retailers in the United States already, they have pulled their goods off the shelves," Salter told CBC News.
'We're not looking at the flea market guy'

Through his life and his music, Marley emerged as an icon of free expression, justice and spirituality. Some have bristled at the prospect of his counterculture legacy as an artist being turned into a brand empire.
But his daughter said fans of the legend believe in his lifestyle, and would want to support the family's efforts.
'It's not going to be something is that is just like, my dad's face is on everything. We're way more creative than that.' —Cedilla Marley, daughter of reggae legend Bob Marley
"We try not to make mistakes, and that's why it's taken us this long even to venture out to find someone to help us, because we've always held it close to our hearts," Cedilla Marley said. "It was important to find somebody that would have the same devotion we have to his legacy."
Marley's legacy also is heavily associated with marijuana, but Salter said there was "no interest" in pursuing products linked with its use.
"Even if marijuana was legalized, we've talked about it, would we do anything on the Marley side, and the answer is no," he said.
But a glimpse of head shops and a poster store on a strip in Canada's largest city shows just how extensive the counterfeiting is.
Keenan Marr Tamblyn works behind the counter of the World of Posters store on Toronto's famed Yonge Street, where teens and Bob Marley fans can buy smoking paraphernalia, T-shirts, pictures and plenty of stuff with the musician's image emblazoned on it.
"We have Bob Marley everything, I would say," Tamblyn told CBC News.
Marley's daughter said the family's approach is not aimed at small merchants, but larger bootlegging factories in China and India, as well as the U.S.
"We've always said, 'Come to us, and we'll do a licence and that way, you're legit,'" she said.
"We're not looking at the flea market guy; we're looking at the guy who's printing for the person who's selling in the flea market."
The family is planning a line of products to mark what would have been Marley's 65th birthday next year, as well as a chain of cafés themed with the Marley motto, One Love. "It's not going to be something that is just like, my dad's face is on everything," Marley said. "We're way more creative than that."
LesMcLuffAlot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:13 PM   #8
JoelS
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Near Sacramento
Bikes:
Posts: 4,890
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
True counterfeits are theft.
__________________
-------

Some sort of pithy irrelevant one-liner should go here.
JoelS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:14 PM   #9
KingTermite 
On my TARDIScycle!
 
KingTermite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Eastside Seattlite Termite Mound
Bikes: Trek 520, Trek Navigator 300, Peugeot Versailles PE10DE
Posts: 3,924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoelS View Post
True counterfeits are theft.
What if its a counterfeit counterfeit? Not theft then?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
- it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.
KingTermite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:14 PM   #10
bigbenaugust 
derailleurs are overrated
 
bigbenaugust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: KIGX
Bikes: 2009 Fantom CX, 2012 Fantom Cross Uno, Bakfiets
Posts: 1,980
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
I ordered a bike from BD, does that count?
__________________
--Ben
Carrboro Bike Coalition - putting the "bike" in "CARrboro" :)
2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
Non-Bike hardware: openSUSE Leap - LinuxMint Debian Edition 2 - Mac OS 10.6 - Android 4.4 - CyanogenMod 13
bigbenaugust is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:15 PM   #11
KingTermite 
On my TARDIScycle!
 
KingTermite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Eastside Seattlite Termite Mound
Bikes: Trek 520, Trek Navigator 300, Peugeot Versailles PE10DE
Posts: 3,924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I sometimes make counterfeit poo.


(Just fulfilling the sex or poo quota for this thread - thank you).
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
- it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.
KingTermite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:18 PM   #12
Pamestique 
Shredding Grandma!
 
Pamestique's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: So Cal
Bikes: I don't own any bikes
Posts: 4,797
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I was at a family reuinion years ago. One of the uncles, an attorney, gave my dad a watch. He represents the Chinese company that makes and imports these knock off/fake Rolexes. This was a legimate - illegal knock off. I didn't know what to say. An attorney? He knows the law right? Not only is it illegal to sell counterfeit products its unethical and immoral. Yet... I know lots of women walking around with fake Gucci or Louis Vuitton bags. So glad I never cared about designer, even fake designer stuff. Not only would I not buy a counterfeit product I also would not buy one that trades on the look of another product, i.e. infringing on trade dress.
__________________
______________________________________________________________

Private docent led mountain bike rides through Limestone Canyon. Go to letsgooutside.org and register today! Also available: hikes, equestrian rides and family events as well as trail maintenance and science study.
Pamestique is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:21 PM   #13
Siu Blue Wind
Flowers for mom
Thread Starter
 
Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 10,950
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 61 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
Do you mean perfect counterfeits or just 'close' (Romex watches...)
I'm referring to Coach bags with the Coach name and logo on it. Very close to what the real bags look like except with lower grade materials and prices that are a fraction of what the genuine item sells for.

Watches from China with the Rolex name, glass time markers vs diamond and gold colored coating vs. real gold.

Things that are sold with the intent of fooling the public into thinking they got a bargain on a genuine article.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddha
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
Quote:
Originally Posted by making View Post
Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.
Siu Blue Wind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:25 PM   #14
Pamestique 
Shredding Grandma!
 
Pamestique's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: So Cal
Bikes: I don't own any bikes
Posts: 4,797
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
Things that are sold with the intent of fooling the public into thinking they got a bargain on a genuine article.
Siu... you know there is a growing market on people who purposely buy counterfeits - they can brag they own a LV bag but pay half the price...
__________________
______________________________________________________________

Private docent led mountain bike rides through Limestone Canyon. Go to letsgooutside.org and register today! Also available: hikes, equestrian rides and family events as well as trail maintenance and science study.
Pamestique is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:25 PM   #15
bigbenaugust 
derailleurs are overrated
 
bigbenaugust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: KIGX
Bikes: 2009 Fantom CX, 2012 Fantom Cross Uno, Bakfiets
Posts: 1,980
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
I had a Chinese friend of mine once tell me that if I ever saw a Chinese person wearing North Face stuff, that it's probably counterfeit.
__________________
--Ben
Carrboro Bike Coalition - putting the "bike" in "CARrboro" :)
2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
Non-Bike hardware: openSUSE Leap - LinuxMint Debian Edition 2 - Mac OS 10.6 - Android 4.4 - CyanogenMod 13
bigbenaugust is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:27 PM   #16
ilikebikes
K2ProFlex baby!
 
ilikebikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: My response would have been something along the lines of: "Does your bike have computer controlled suspension? Then shut your piehole, this baby is from the future!"
Bikes: to many to list
Posts: 6,087
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
I'm referring to Coach bags with the Coach name and logo on it. Very close to what the real bags look like except with lower grade materials and prices that are a fraction of what the genuine item sells for.

Watches from China with the Rolex name, glass time markers vs diamond and gold coating vs. real gold.

Things that are sold with the intent of fooling the public into thinking they got a bargain on a genuine article.
My youngest is like a Coach (and just about any other hand bag) expert! The flea market I go to sells bags and gives you the option of what name you want on it! no bull****! They dig your prefered brand name out of a bag and crimp it right onto your bag! Reason these people get away with it is because the authorities really don't do much, OK, every once in a while they'll bust a small time seller just to make themselves look good, but they let it go for what ever reason, just like the black market DVD's. (cha ching! )
__________________
You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve
ilikebikes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:28 PM   #17
HardyWeinberg
GATC
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: south Puget Sound
Bikes:
Posts: 7,495
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 47 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
I'm referring to Coach bags with the Coach name and logo on it. Very close to what the real bags look like except with lower grade materials and prices that are a fraction of what the genuine item sells for.

Watches from China with the Rolex name, glass time markers vs diamond and gold coating vs. real gold.

Things that are sold with the intent of fooling the public into thinking they got a bargain on a genuine article.
I wonder if one could make a fake rolex for $4k that really looked like a $10k one, with an actual self-winding clockwork mechanism, and sell it for $5k. That seems more deceitful/criminal than selling for $5-$20 a watch with a Rolex label that clearly has a quartz movement.

I wonder if the fake couture items would be as easy to spot as the difference between a $20 watch and $10k watch vs a $5k watch/$10k watch.
HardyWeinberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:31 PM   #18
ilikebikes
K2ProFlex baby!
 
ilikebikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: My response would have been something along the lines of: "Does your bike have computer controlled suspension? Then shut your piehole, this baby is from the future!"
Bikes: to many to list
Posts: 6,087
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I would never pay 10 gran for a watch! One Christmas my brother in law gave me a $300.00 watch and made it a point to let me know the cost! So I asked him if he wanted to buy it for $200.00! (he didn't think it was funny.)
__________________
You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve
ilikebikes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:33 PM   #19
Siu Blue Wind
Flowers for mom
Thread Starter
 
Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 10,950
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 61 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
Siu... you know there is a growing market on people who purposely buy counterfeits - they can brag they own a LV bag but pay half the price...
Indeed. But in terms of quality, I'm sure they don't last as long and are soon tossed into the trash. Of course then they can be the talk of the town every time a NEW bag is spotted on their shoulder.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddha
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
Quote:
Originally Posted by making View Post
Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.
Siu Blue Wind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:39 PM   #20
Rob P.
Fred at large
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Roads of Ventura County Ca
Bikes:
Posts: 640
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The brand name manufacturers all claim that counterfeiting harms the consumer. They're wrong. Counterfeits only hurt the maker not the buyer so long as the buyer knows that they are not paying full price for a real/true copy/item.

If the manufacturer would make a cheaper product, people would buy that instead. However, that would "lower" the market price on the higher end product (which costs about the same to produce as the cheap version) and there wouldn't be as much profit margin.

It's all about money, economics, and market share. It's not about protecting the consumer. Never was, never will be.
Rob P. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:49 PM   #21
Siu Blue Wind
Flowers for mom
Thread Starter
 
Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 10,950
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 61 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
I wonder if one could make a fake rolex for $4k that really looked like a $10k one, with an actual self-winding clockwork mechanism, and sell it for $5k. That seems more deceitful/criminal than selling for $5-$20 a watch with a Rolex label that clearly has a quartz movement.

I wonder if the fake couture items would be as easy to spot as the difference between a $20 watch and $10k watch vs a $5k watch/$10k watch.
Okay let's kick it down to something not as luxurious. Check this out. Here's a picture of a counterfeit, which looks pretty darn good.








But because I know my Benchmades, I can see that the logo is not right and the lock is wrong for that model number as well as the blade configuration. The liners are of lower quality metal because you can see the scuff marks inside as well as it being an indication of poor fit and finish. The thumb studs are also wrong as well as lack of reversible clip mounts.

Here's an authentic Benchmade.



This is a $165 knife that someone will call the first knife a deal if they can get it for $125.

The first one will past muster to those who are new to knives and would like to have a Benchmade.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddha
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
Quote:
Originally Posted by making View Post
Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.

Last edited by Siu Blue Wind; 11-03-09 at 06:14 PM.
Siu Blue Wind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:49 PM   #22
ilikebikes
K2ProFlex baby!
 
ilikebikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: My response would have been something along the lines of: "Does your bike have computer controlled suspension? Then shut your piehole, this baby is from the future!"
Bikes: to many to list
Posts: 6,087
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob P. View Post
The brand name manufacturers all claim that counterfeiting harms the consumer. They're wrong. Counterfeits only hurt the maker not the buyer so long as the buyer knows that they are not paying full price for a real/true copy/item.

If the manufacturer would make a cheaper product, people would buy that instead. However, that would "lower" the market price on the higher end product (which costs about the same to produce as the cheap version) and there wouldn't be as much profit margin.

It's all about money, economics, and market share. It's not about protecting the consumer. Never was, never will be.
I don't know, ever time we go to Puerto Rico we stop in at the Coach outlet? in old San Juan, my daughter ALWAYS comes out with more than a few items at very decent prices.
__________________
You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve
ilikebikes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 05:56 PM   #23
monogodo
NFL Owner
 
monogodo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Irving Heritage District
Bikes: 7-Eleven Eddy Merckx, Vitus Futural, Catamount FRS, Colnago SL, SS MTB
Posts: 1,489
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
I ordered a bike from BD, does that count?
No, Bikes Direct has purchased the rights to manufacture bikes and apply the brand names to them.
monogodo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 06:09 PM   #24
bigbenaugust 
derailleurs are overrated
 
bigbenaugust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: KIGX
Bikes: 2009 Fantom CX, 2012 Fantom Cross Uno, Bakfiets
Posts: 1,980
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by monogodo View Post
No, Bikes Direct has purchased the rights to manufacture bikes and apply the brand names to them.
I was hoping to get a rise out of someone, but a legit answer is nice, too.
__________________
--Ben
Carrboro Bike Coalition - putting the "bike" in "CARrboro" :)
2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
Non-Bike hardware: openSUSE Leap - LinuxMint Debian Edition 2 - Mac OS 10.6 - Android 4.4 - CyanogenMod 13
bigbenaugust is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-09, 06:15 PM   #25
DannoXYZ 
Senior Member
 
DannoXYZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Saratoga, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 11,600
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
I wonder if one could make a fake rolex for $4k that really looked like a $10k one, with an actual self-winding clockwork mechanism, and sell it for $5k. That seems more deceitful/criminal than selling for $5-$20 a watch with a Rolex label that clearly has a quartz movement.

I wonder if the fake couture items would be as easy to spot as the difference between a $20 watch and $10k watch vs a $5k watch/$10k watch.
Not so easy anymore as "replica" is the goal nowadays. A $100 replica Rolex will actually have parts that interchange with the real thing and require actual Rolex service tools to open. Every last part is replicated with high-precision, even the self-winding mechanism. The days of Rolex are over anyway. I prefer Patek Philippe. There's a reason it's not worth it for counterfeiters to copy.
DannoXYZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:44 PM.