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    Somebody talk to me about Denver CO

    Yeah, I know, I could have posted in the Regional, but then I would have yet one more forum to check in on. Gotten to the point where I may have to use tabs for each forum and just refresh 'em...

    Back on topic: Company I work for has a location there. Management opportunities just opened up. I have a shot, should I press it. But...I've never been to Denver. Don't know what the traffic/crime/cost of living/yada-yada are like.

    Someone kindly 'splain the Mile High City to me?
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    Best to compare it to where you're coming from. Where's that?

    If you count the suburbs, you've got all sorts of traffic, crime and cost of living problems, along with tons of great things.
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    Where I'm at/from is the Tulsa metro area.
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    The air is thinner, and I've seen snow and 65 degrees on the same day, there.
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    Meh. I've worn shorts in the morning and my "snow shoes" (waterproof hiking boots) by sundown here.
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    PM me for details. I used to live in Denver and am in OK now. Cost of living is MUCH higher in Denver than Tulsa.
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    Tulsa sucks. Good god does Tulsa suck...

    Cost of living is significantly higher in Denver but so is the quality of living. Denver and CO in general is a very active place to be and it certainly rubs off. Skiing all year, mountain biking, road cycling, climbing, hiking, the view, people tend to be happy, good food, Boulder is a trip, Pikes Peak, the air is thinner and the smell of CO is wonderful (except for Greeley), there are plains, mountains, deserts, lakes, rivers, canyons, cowboys, city slickers, farmers, rednecks, environmentalists...

    Make the move just to do it. You don't have to live there your entire life...

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    Denver's cost of living isn't much above average for the nation though. Plus, you're so close to all the outdoors.

    Denver is far greater than Tulsa.

    The best place in Denver for cyclists is within the city and county of Denver. That's the cycle friendliest place. The suburbs can be cycle friendly, but vary widely. Arvada and Lakewood aren't too bad either.
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    Wordbiker lives in Colorado. This should concern you.
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    Wordbiker lives in Colorado. This should concern you.
    I've made CO a little safer by moving out...

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    But Tulsa has it all - over Wichita Falls, TX. It's all relative.

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    Tulsa sucks. Good god does Tulsa suck...

    Cost of living is significantly higher in Denver but so is the quality of living. Denver and CO in general is a very active place to be and it certainly rubs off. Skiing all year, mountain biking, road cycling, climbing, hiking, the view, people tend to be happy, good food, Boulder is a trip, Pikes Peak, the air is thinner and the smell of CO is wonderful (except for Greeley), there are plains, mountains, deserts, lakes, rivers, canyons, cowboys, city slickers, farmers, rednecks, environmentalists...

    Make the move just to do it. You don't have to live there your entire life...
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    Tulsa sucks. Good god does Tulsa suck...

    Cost of living is significantly higher in Denver but so is the quality of living. Denver and CO in general is a very active place to be and it certainly rubs off. Skiing all year, mountain biking, road cycling, climbing, hiking, the view, people tend to be happy, good food, Boulder is a trip, Pikes Peak, the air is thinner and the smell of CO is wonderful (except for Greeley), there are plains, mountains, deserts, lakes, rivers, canyons, cowboys, city slickers, farmers, rednecks, environmentalists...

    Make the move just to do it. You don't have to live there your entire life...
    Having lived in both places, I prefer Tulsa. I miss a lot about Denver (the weather, the active people) BUT, home prices are twice as high, the community is much more divided about class lines. I also found Denver to be very cliquish. My wife noticed the same thing. For the money we save by living in OK, we take 2 extra vacations each year. Yeah, that sucks!

    Also, most of the people who live in Denver, and never lived elsewhere, I found to be very elitist about how great it is there. The traffic there is the worst of anywhere I have lived (including NYC, and Houston)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUOkie View Post
    Having lived in both places, I prefer Tulsa. I miss a lot about Denver (the weather, the active people) BUT, home prices are twice as high, the community is much more divided about class lines. I also found Denver to be very cliquish. My wife noticed the same thing. For the money we save by living in OK, we take 2 extra vacations each year. Yeah, that sucks!
    Yeah, but you have to go back home to Tulsa...

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    I lived in Colorado for almost 25 years. Most of that in the Denver area. I would move back tomorrow if I had the opportunity.

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    Never been to Tulsa, but I have visited Denver several times and loved it. Nice town, thin air, wild weather, great airport, lots to do. Cheaper than here in the SF Bay, but probably more expensive than OK.

    I once worked with a man from Tulsa, though, who swore that Oklahoma was the best place on earth and he always complained about living here in CA. He moved back... good riddance.
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    Yeah, but you have to go back home to Tulsa...
    If Tulsa is so bad, then why did the WNBA team from Detroit decide to move here?
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    Of course, the Center of the Universe is in Tulsa.
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    I moved here from Rhode Island. The cost of living is the same, if not a little less. Weather is better. No ocean though.

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    I moved here from RI, too. Cost of living here is less than Newport, at least. Weather... I'd call it a draw. I don't miss the humidity, but I wish it would snow more (I live in Colorado Springs... Denver gets more snow). I definitely miss the ocean and good, fresh, readily available seafood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    If Tulsa is so bad, then why did the WNBA team from Detroit decide to move here?
    Easy. No competition for sports whatsoever in Tulsa.
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    I see I'm in the minority here. I grew up in Lakewood and Denver, and there's no way I would live there again. I can only hope it's changed for the better since I left; that was a lot of years ago. While it's true that the mountains are beautiful, you have to sit in traffic for a few hours to get to them. I don't imagine the amount of traffic has decreased in the last 20 years either. And the air quality used to be horrendous. People in the suburbs were really hateful toward anyone who wasn't exactly like them. The city was better in that regard, but didn't have a whole lot to do as cities go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro-monster View Post
    I see I'm in the minority here. I grew up in Lakewood and Denver, and there's no way I would live there again. I can only hope it's changed for the better since I left; that was a lot of years ago. While it's true that the mountains are beautiful, you have to sit in traffic for a few hours to get to them. I don't imagine the amount of traffic has decreased in the last 20 years either. And the air quality used to be horrendous. People in the suburbs were really hateful toward anyone who wasn't exactly like them. The city was better in that regard, but didn't have a whole lot to do as cities go.
    That was exactly my experience living there. (But I would take the Nuggets/Avs/Broncos over WNBA/CHL/OU any day of the week!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
    Easy. No competition for sports whatsoever in Tulsa.
    Granted, the WNBA is the only true, major Pro team in town, but they are hardly the only game in town. Farm teams for baseball (Drillers), basketball (66'ers), the CHL (Oilers), and the reborn AFL (Talons). All but the basketball programs are annual contenders for their respective championships. That's not counting the collegiate level with TU and ORU.
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    I moved here from Maryland. The weather's alot nicer and I love getting out into the mountains. ro-monster's right about the traffic particularly coming out of the mountains on a Sunday on I-70 can be awful but coming from the Baltimore/DC area I'm used to bad traffic whether it's normal rush hour or summer beach traffic - just something you have to deal with.
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