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Old 01-10-10, 09:51 AM   #1
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2010-The HE Decade!

Watching an interesting "Today Show" this Sunday morning. They are proclaiming that this will be the decade that men will recover what it means to be a man. The past 40 years have focused on Women's issues and Equality in the work place. They propose that men have been lost in the extremes. Now with a swing in TV like "Men of a Certain Age" that men will refine their roles, authority, value and need for meaning.

I think that the Man Cave was the first sign that this was coming. What do the men of Foo think?
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I never lost it... I just learned to pick my battles more wisely.
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As the proud owner of a Man/bike cave, I'll throw in my .02. They can have it as far as I'm concerned. My life is a lot more stress free with them at the wheel.
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Watching an interesting "Today Show" this Sunday morning. They are proclaiming that this will be the decade that men will recover what it means to be a man. The past 40 years have focused on Women's issues and Equality in the work place. They propose that men have been lost in the extremes. Now with a swing in TV like "Men of a Certain Age" that men will refine their roles, authority, value and need for meaning.

I think that the Man Cave was the first sign that this was coming. What do the men of Foo think?

I guess, if it makes you feel more like a man.
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As a TRUEMAN, with a Beryllium Man Card. I guess I was looking for signs of intelligent life here. I guess I'm surrounded by a bunch of Metro Sexuals.
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Except for jdon, true wisdom here.
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Don't need no stinking decade.
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As a TRUEMAN, with a Beryllium Man Card. I guess I was looking for signs of intelligent life here. I guess I'm surrounded by a bunch of Metro Sexuals.
depends on your definition of a man, my definition of a man is a person that starts a family, has kids and sticks around thru thick and thin, and when the worst comes he stays and cares for his wife and family as best he can, and then he trys even harder. Man, women, gay or straight, (even metro sexuals) thats my definition of a man. ;0)
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I think that the Man Cave was the first sign that this was coming. What do the men of Foo think?
"Man Cave" is one of the dumbest phrases I've ever heard, right behind "blog." It's kind of demeaning actually, whereas "blog" merely sounds stupid. "Oh, little Daspydyr is going out to play in his man-cave. Isn't that quaint?"

Instead of return to exerting roles and authority, how about a return to being gentlemen? Act respectable and respect will be yours...well, at least if we can convince women again that letting a man show courtesy by holding the door isn't an insult against her independence or self-sufficiency.

And I'm not just talking about holding doors. I mean genuinely treating people as equals, wanting to disinterestedly help your neighbor, and learning how to graciously praise others.
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Most of the stuff we've "lost" has been the stupid misogynist stuff we shouldn't really miss. Plus we still have these nipples that don't do jack-squat.
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Instead of return to exerting roles and authority, how about a return to being gentlemen? Act respectable and respect will be yours...well, at least if we can convince women again that letting a man show courtesy by holding the door isn't an insult against her independence or self-sufficiency.

And I'm not just talking about holding doors. I mean genuinely treating people as equals, wanting to disinterestedly help your neighbor, and learning how to graciously praise others.
Here in the south those are called "manners" and I couldn't agree more...there's a steady decline as of late.
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They can think they are in control if they like... but nothing works better with children than "I'm gonna tell your Dad".
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So a man can't be a man without a mate and children?
And a gay man can only be a real man if he stays by his wife?
What if a gay woman stays by her wife? Does that make her a man?

Not in my book, in my book he's just a kid that thinks he's a man.

Sure, if he's a gay man his "wife" is a man! Duh! ;0)

Sure does, manhood has no gender.
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"Man Cave" is one of the dumbest phrases I've ever heard, right behind "blog." It's kind of demeaning actually, whereas "blog" merely sounds stupid. "Oh, little Daspydyr is going out to play in his man-cave. Isn't that quaint?"

Instead of return to exerting roles and authority, how about a return to being gentlemen? Act respectable and respect will be yours...well, at least if we can convince women again that letting a man show courtesy by holding the door isn't an insult against her independence or self-sufficiency.

And I'm not just talking about holding doors. I mean genuinely treating people as equals, wanting to disinterestedly help your neighbor, and learning how to graciously praise others.
Remember Mr lucky 13, this is FOO! The last of what you say is cool. A man cave is a great concept, some of the concept going back to Mars and Venus. My favorite "Man Caves" include working on my bike, long rides, golf with a couple buddies, camping (the wife considers roughing it a hotel without a spa) fishing and watching Sports while the hun watches Lifetime. Look in your secret heart you ORegonian nay sayer, I bet you have a couple of man caves!
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what the hell is "HE Decade"?

How'abou'Em'apples?
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Just a dumb start for the next decade. Men get some emotional catharsis time. Sell some books, new sitcoms. For most guys, its SNALU!

If a man makes a statement, and a woman doesn't hear it, IS HE STILL WRONG? That kinda crap, only backwards.
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ohhh, he, him, his... ohhh... I get it now....

see, I thought it was an acronym.
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Here in the south those are called "manners" and I couldn't agree more...there's a steady decline as of late.
Manners is just an outward expression of gentlemanliness. Behind that has to be a man who wants to contribute to making the world better.
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Manners is just an outward expression of gentlemanliness. Behind that has to be a man who wants to contribute to making the world better.
True...no argument there. But actions speak louder than words, no? Talking and wanting are nice but setting an example by doing goes a lot further IMHO. People tend to judge your character by your deeds.
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OK, so the group has drifted to the basics. Set a good example, show honest respect, manners are good. Good ole regular stuff.

What about leadership, focus, setting the course for the family, or if a chosen single life, how does a man stand his ground when "society" has directions a man should choose. How does a man find and stay true to his inner person and stay true to himself.
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...how does a man stand his ground when "society" has directions a man should choose. How does a man find and stay true to his inner person and stay true to himself.
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Not in my book, in my book he's just a kid that thinks he's a man.
What makes procreation a necessity for being a man? I think the fact that I'm responsible enough to realize I'd make a positively horrible parent establishes my maturity and manhood.
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kind of interesting, the NYT had an article about how so many tv shows feature Pathological men as their main characters: the sopranos, Mad Men, House, Californication, Dexter, Monk, Curb your enthusiasm....hmmm wonder what that's all about?
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You mean we'll get something different then this:

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how does a man stand his ground when "society" has directions a man should choose. How does a man find and stay true to his inner person and stay true to himself.
By telling "society" to foo off and following his conscience. (I love websters definition of conscience btw) But here's another...

Mr. Lebowski: What does it mean to be a man? Does it mean doing the right thing...whatever the costs?

The Dude: Yeah...that and a pair of testicles.

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