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Old 01-11-10, 09:58 PM   #1
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Cheap Places to Retire

Don't ask me how, but I posted this in the Religion forum. Anyway, I thought it was worth a new thread.

I've taken many solo trips thru Mexico, by van and motorcycle. My Spanish is 'learn as you go along' but I have more fun when I travel alone; I meet more Mexicans and we laugh as we struggle with our language issues. My general rule is 'the cheaper the food, the better it tastes.' One of the problems I have when I travel there with my fellow Americans, is that the ONLY places they want to eat are the ones designed for American tourists.

I've been thinking of retiring there, but I ought to give Costa Rica a look.

One of my plans is to convert a cargo trailer into an RV so it does not look like an RV*, throw in a bicycle and head off South exploring. Dunno if I could get as far as Costa Rica, but I would be on the lookout for a sleepy old fishing village relatively not infected with the American tourist disease. Bahia de Los Angeles in Baja Norte is a candidate, but I'd like to check out Oaxaca area and points South.

*Check out my friend Randy Vining's 'Stealth RV' http://cheaprvliving.com/StealthCargoTrailer.html
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Old 01-11-10, 10:10 PM   #2
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BTW, there are lots of magazines and websites devoted to this topic. 90% of them are actually commercial ventures devoted to pushing real estate. It's hard to get unbiased information from someone who isn't trying to get you to lay down a small fortune for some American style luxury condo or estate. I'm looking for a place I can blend in with the locals and sit back and waste away in Margaritaville.
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*Check out my friend Randy Vining's 'Stealth RV' http://cheaprvliving.com/StealthCargoTrailer.html
some of his pages are fascinating. Cooking w/ a solar oven?
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My son visited Thailand a couple of times this past year while on a ship with the Marine Corps. He said it is unbelievably cheap, and there are lots of retired Americans there. He really liked it there--he was on Phuket. You have to wonder about the health care in a place like that, though.

I want to check out Costa Rica, but I don't think I'd want to live in a foreign country more than a year or two. I may not be able to retire for at least 15 years, anyway, even though I am almost 57. In fact I am just now starting a bachelor's degree.
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Old 01-11-10, 10:46 PM   #6
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*Check out my friend Randy Vining's 'Stealth RV' http://cheaprvliving.com/StealthCargoTrailer.html
That is just so neat!

I have friends who are full-time RVers and also avid cyclists. They winter in Yuma, AZ, which is cheap if you know how to do cheap, but not cheap if you want a fancy place. You can boondock on the BLM lands for $180 for 6 months in that area. Or rent a space with hookups in the old part of Foothills for your travel trailer for less than $200 a month. Two really good bike clubs there. I like Yuma, (in winter only! Summers are brutal!) I've wintered there myself, but rented a mobile home. Kayaking and hiking are good there, too.

Here is a young couple who sold everything but what they could carry on touring bikes. They have a nice website with beautiful photos and many fun adventures: http://pathlesspedaled.com/
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Yeah, I was just reflecting with a friend on how you can live really cheaply, even in the U.S., but if you want just a bit of luxury the costs start to skyrocket.

Also, I really like Randy's idea. A big motorhome would be be cool, but among other problems, you'd have a tough time getting into some of the great places I've been able to camp by motorcycle, not to mention having another giant motorhome 10 feet away.
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My son visited Thailand a couple of times this past year while on a ship with the Marine Corps. He said it is unbelievably cheap, and there are lots of retired Americans there. He really liked it there--he was on Phuket. You have to wonder about the health care in a place like that, though.
I need to checkout Thailand. I've been too cheap to go there. My brother visited 30 years ago and loved it. Re: health care, I thought there were many Americans who went there for surgery because it is so much cheaper than the States and high quality.
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My daughter's house. Haven't told her yet though.
That's my backup plan. My girlfriend is 14 years younger. She lives with me and pays a fraction of the costs. Later we're reversing that. I'm sure I can trust her.
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Old 01-11-10, 11:56 PM   #11
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Now that I've wasted my life away, I don't know what I'll do when I retire.
I do. I'm going to continue to waste it. Worked so far.
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uhhh, go find your own box. Now get out from under my overpass.
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I plan on buying a small sailing boat and fishing and drinking a lot of coffee. Probably have a small pottery studio on dry land somewhere, and do a few art festivals from time to time to raise a little cash....and that's actually not too far off in the future.
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I was a fan of the guy that went up to Alaska and built his own log cabin.
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You could try Somalia. It's equatorial, lots of shoreline. I'll bet you could pick up a place on the beach for a song. It would be pretty low cost of living, for as long as you did end up living.

On second thought, maybe that's a little extreme.
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I hear its pretty cheap to retire at the Fed. Penetentiary.
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I'm still 30/40/never years from retirement, but I've been looking at Belize lately. English speaking, part of the dominion (probably wicked easy to get there for Canadians), mostly cheap and not touristy - if you live like a native Belize and not with tourists. Or, you can go all out and buy an island off the coast and live like a king (and pay for it...)
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I want to check out Costa Rica, but I don't think I'd want to live in a foreign country more than a year or two. I may not be able to retire for at least 15 years, anyway, even though I am almost 57. In fact I am just now starting a bachelor's degree.
We went to Costa Rica a couple years ago, loved it. Everywhere we turned, there was stacks of literature that looked like a huge weird secondary market of gringos selling real estate to other gringos. Seemed Amway-ish, get in on RE, then suck in other people behind you to prop up the values. Not sure that's a game I'd want to get sucked into. I know there are other folks here more knowledgeable than I on the feasibility of any of those various schemes.
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You could try Somalia. It's equatorial, lots of shoreline. I'll bet you could pick up a place on the beach for a song. It would be pretty low cost of living, for as long as you did end up living.
Or Afghanistan. It's landlocked, but I read an estimate that it's only like $10k/yr to maintain a militia of 100 which should meet security needs if you don't go into empire-building mode. Probably susceptible to having them bought out from under you though.
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My advice for anyone who wishes to retire to a third world country, don't do it because it is cheaper, do it because you want to live in a third world country. In the mountains and off the beaten track, it is still cheap, beach, expensive, around cities, expensive. And if you are addicted to stuff from the USA (like cottage cheese for example), you are going to pay through the nose.
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My son visited Thailand a couple of times this past year while on a ship with the Marine Corps. He said it is unbelievably cheap, and there are lots of retired Americans there. He really liked it there--he was on Phuket. You have to wonder about the health care in a place like that, though.

I want to check out Costa Rica, but I don't think I'd want to live in a foreign country more than a year or two. I may not be able to retire for at least 15 years, anyway, even though I am almost 57. In fact I am just now starting a bachelor's degree.

can't go wrong with a place named "Phuket!"
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