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Old 01-21-10, 02:59 AM   #1
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important and interesting scene from inglourious basterds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eokxh65WQGA

what King Kong was really about, according to Tarantino in "Fresh Air"
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what King Kong was really about, according to Tarantino in "Fresh Air"
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That movie was entertaining, yet incredibly stupid. Like all Tarantino films.






Like BF itself.
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Pointlessness is incredibly useful. Pcad Cycling Zen lies therein.
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Pcad Cycling Zen lies within my job?
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If this is indeed true, which I suspect it is, then I consider my life an homage to Pcad. A performance piece of futility.
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How awesome: a Nazi, Gestapo officer lecturing the audience about US slavery.

OK, so...

What was the point? Merely to belittle the US in front of co-Nazis? I don't think so--in context, he should have been making comments to draw people out, considering his already established doubts about them. But there was only one citizen of the USA among the group of four conspirators at the table and the most lame imposter was English. I suppose you could say that since the Gestapo officer couldn't place the English dood's accent, he might as well have tried to flush him out with a slight on the US, maybe especially if you consider that he also might have suspected they were Basterds from the start.

But ultimately, it's Tarantino, doing something typically Tarantinian: throwing out a pithy judgmental comment on something of great import within the context of total film geekdom.
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Oh gawd, botto. That's messed up.


Why do you both go meeping at each other?? That just cracks me up.
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How awesome: a Nazi, Gestapo officer lecturing the audience about US slavery.

OK, so...

What was the point? Merely to belittle the US in front of co-Nazis? I don't think so--in context, he should have been making comments to draw people out, considering his already established doubts about them. But there was only one citizen of the USA among the group of four conspirators at the table and the most lame imposter was English. I suppose you could say that since the Gestapo officer couldn't place the English dood's accent, he might as well have tried to flush him out with a slight on the US, maybe especially if you consider that he also might have suspected they were Basterds from the start.

But ultimately, it's Tarantino, doing something typically Tarantinian: throwing out a pithy judgmental comment on something of great import within the context of total film geekdom.
do you thnk King Kong is really about White fear of the Black man?
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Oh I get it. Let's steer this by way of P and R so that it gets moved back there.

Let's talk about that Huge Japanese Lizard instead. He was more scary. With his bad breath and all. I think that movie is about fear of reptiles.
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Your right. I'm not scared of lizards, just the huge city destroying ones.
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Why do you both go meeping at each other?? That just cracks me up.
Its a shared language only they can understand....like the call of the love birds.
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Your right. I'm not scared of lizards, just the huge city destroying ones.
Well with all of the development that was going on, there's been a lot of species that have been run out. As a matter of fact, one of the developers got a fine for destroying the habitat around here where the butterflies come every year.

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Oh I get it. Let's steer this by way of P and R so that it gets moved back there.

Let's talk about that Huge Japanese Lizard instead. He was more scary. With his bad breath and all. I think that movie is about fear of reptiles.
no, what you didn't get was what the thread was ABOUT. Here is part of the transcript..... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=112286584

GROSS: Oh I love that.
Mr. TARANTINO: I think it has one of those big moments in it. And it's interesting watching it, because I've seen it now in a few different countries now - that scene - and it's, you know, and to me it's very interesting. I mean to me it's very obvious. I mean, of course "King Kong" is a metaphor for the slave trade. I'm not saying the makers of "King Kong" meant it to be that way, but that's what, that's the movie that they made - whether they meant to make it or not.
To me "King Kong" is a metaphor for America's fear of the black male. And to me that's obvious. All right? So I mean that was one of the first things I said when I was talking to a friend of mine after he saw Peter Jackson's version of "King Kong." And I said, you know, is the racial metaphors in there? Is the racial subtext in there? And he goes no. And I go, well then that's just a story of a big monkey.
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Mr. TARANTINO: What that about? But I'm still shocked at people, a lot of people don't even look at it as that. So when the character says it in the movie, it's like - there's like - actually I've seen shock and then applause of people realizing it for the very first time that "King Kong" is a metaphor for the slave trade. And I even love the fact that it's a Gestapo major...
(Soundbite of laughter)
GROSS: Right.
Mr. TARANTINO: ...who is actually calling America on its racist past.
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GROSS: So in the scene that we just heard...
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Okay so what's your point besides making a mess of your post with the over laps, large colored (oooh is that racist?) lettering and shouting?

Think what you want to think and allow others the freedom to do the same.

Oh and by the way, another large developer damaged the habitat of the red legged frog and only got somewhere along the lines of a 1.5 million dollar fine.

Edit: For records' sake, this is not to be taken personally, Hannah. I'm just messin' with you.
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Okay so what's your point besides making a mess of your post with the over laps, large colored (oooh is that racist?) lettering and shouting?

Think what you want to think and allow others the freedom to do the same.

Oh and by the way, another large developer damaged the habitat of the red legged frog and only got somewhere along the lines of a 1.5 million dollar fine.

Edit: For records' sake, this is not to be taken personally, Hannah. I'm just messin' with you.
YOU: Oh I get it. Let's steer this by way of P and R so that it gets moved back there
ME: no, what you didn't get was what the thread was ABOUT. Here is part of the transcript..... (bolded to point out relevant sentences)
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Let's talk about that Huge Japanese Lizard instead. He was more scary. With his bad breath and all. I think that movie is about fear of reptiles.

No. Godzilla, made in Japan, the only country attacked with nuclear weapons (thus far) made a movie about a monster created by the testing of nuclear weapons. His breath is radioactive as is his very presence. He rises without reason or explanation and destroys a city. Nothing can stop him. The movie is not about a fear of lizards, it is a movie about the fear of nuclear arms.
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I heard that interview too. I liked the part about how he had to go to blaxploitation films by himself in his youth. He's one wierd genius.
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do you thnk King Kong is really about White fear of the Black man?
Its interesting when the comparison is made in the movie. Was it intentionally done that way? I dunno, this is the first I've seen the comparison made, but thats not saying much and maybe tarantino isn't the first to point it out. It does seem to fit in with the timeline of early monster movies with dracula, frankenstein, dinosaurs, and the mummy preceding it. Without further analysis, I'd say it could go either way (intentionally about racism vs. coincidence).

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s, it is a movie about the fear of nuclear arms.
Hell I was afraid of the lizard.

Okay I'm outta here. You all carry on.
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no, what you didn't get was what the thread was ABOUT. Here is part of the transcript..... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=112286584

GROSS: Oh I love that.
Mr. TARANTINO: I think it has one of those big moments in it. And it's interesting watching it, because I've seen it now in a few different countries now - that scene - and it's, you know, and to me it's very interesting. I mean to me it's very obvious. I mean, of course "King Kong" is a metaphor for the slave trade. I'm not saying the makers of "King Kong" meant it to be that way, but that's what, that's the movie that they made - whether they meant to make it or not.
To me "King Kong" is a metaphor for America's fear of the black male. And to me that's obvious. All right? So I mean that was one of the first things I said when I was talking to a friend of mine after he saw Peter Jackson's version of "King Kong." And I said, you know, is the racial metaphors in there? Is the racial subtext in there? And he goes no. And I go, well then that's just a story of a big monkey.
(Soundbite of laughter)
Mr. TARANTINO: What that about? But I'm still shocked at people, a lot of people don't even look at it as that. So when the character says it in the movie, it's like - there's like - actually I've seen shock and then applause of people realizing it for the very first time that "King Kong" is a metaphor for the slave trade. And I even love the fact that it's a Gestapo major...
(Soundbite of laughter)
GROSS: Right.
Mr. TARANTINO: ...who is actually calling America on its racist past.
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GROSS: So in the scene that we just heard...
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Okay I'm outta here. You all carry on.
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I heard that interview too. I liked the part about how he had to go to blaxploitation films by himself in his youth. He's one wierd genius.
Isn't he?

Symbolism like this fascinates me. King Kong as a metaphor for White fear of the Black man. I was always interested in why King Kong seemed sexually interested in the pristine blonde woman, why that was part of the movie dynamic. Now I have a better understanding of it.
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