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Old 02-19-10, 02:00 AM   #1
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Smokers...

I don't really care what anyone wants to do with themselves. But, if you are going to smoke, why can't you put the but in the trash?

While waiting for the light rail last night, I saw a lady throw a but onto the track area. 5 feet to her right, was a trash can. Why can't she just put it out, and throw it away?

I really want to say something to people when I see this crap, as I think it's rather disgusting to see hundreds of cigarette buts all over the ground. But I know if I confront someone the wrong way, it won't make the situation any better.

Does anyone here say something to people like this? What kind of reactions do you get?
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Maybe afraid of the hot butt starting a fire? Just sayin'. Back in the day when I smoked I was afraid of emptying ash trays into the garbage can.
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You can't say anything to them that won't come across as you sitting on your high horse. People are inconsiderate 6 year olds, deep down, and trying to correct their bad behavior won't do anything. If you can reach a butt right after someone has tossed it on the ground, just throw it away yourself, right in front of them...
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I always dispose my buts in a politically correct, environmentally friendly way, paying special attention not to leave behind any smokable material that could be picked up and used by a minor. I'm also careful not to start a freaking fire (unless californians smokers) and always apply hand sanitazer to my face and hands to get rid of any tobacco smells that could potentially offend nearby smoker-hating citizens.

That said, recent tax hikes on tobacco products are enough, IMHO, to pay for an army of but picking specialists and successfully resolve the current job crisis.

I do not recommend picking up somebody elses but due to potential health risks associated with touching objects full of other people's saliva.

I do, strongly, agree with the OP and believe fellow smokers should be more careful during their but disposal procedures.

Finally, as mandatory on any smoking related thread on any cycling site...



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just start shooting them....maybe you can claim self defense, after all, that smoke is an assault on your being.
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just start shooting them....maybe you can claim self defense, after all, that smoke is an assault on your being.
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I love how the guy two rows back is winding up to hurl his bottle at those jerks at the front. That'll teach 'em.
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I find on the whole, most cigarettes are well behaved. They should not be let free to do their own thing though as they do make a mess on other peoples property and can be offensive. Some people are afraid of cigarettes, especially when on a bike. If I come across a stray that looks like it will be a problem, I pull out my water bottle and give it a shot. Stops them in their tracks every time. It isn't the cigarettes, It's their owners.
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I love how the guy two rows back is winding up to hurl his bottle at those jerks at the front. That'll teach 'em.
No, you got it wrong. Cyclists only smoke when they drink. That is the martini domestique pulling back to the front after dropping back to the team car for pearl onion stuffed olives.
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Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
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Old 02-19-10, 08:36 AM   #10
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I agree. Put the stick out and throw it away. I wish the cops would use the littering statutes to go after butt tossers.
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would you really confront someone and maybe offend them just because of this annoyance? there was a case here where a guy approached a smoker in a nonsmoking place and the smoker pulled out a gun and shot him to death. i imagine that is a real possibility
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Generally I think that people with bad habits not only don't care about themselves also don't care about others or their surroundings. My reasoning is what do you mostly see discarded on the sides of the roads and sidewalks. Beer cans/bottles and anything with alcohol, cig butts, fast food wrappers/bags, soda cans etc. What don't you see? Anything that's healthy.
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Generally I think that people with bad habits not only don't care about themselves also don't care about others or their surroundings. My reasoning is what do you mostly see discarded on the sides of the roads and sidewalks. Beer cans/bottles and anything with alcohol, cig butts, fast food wrappers/bags, soda cans etc. What don't you see? Anything that's healthy.
Ever looked for water bottles, gel packs, etc around areas heavily used by cyclists? They are out there, we are no better or worse than our fellow man.
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At a place I used to work, I had to deal with a trash can that had started on fire because of a cigarette butt. Not pleasant.
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Many cigarette smokers who drop the butt do not care about the environment, fires or the lungs of others that is why they do what they do. OP, I think it is okay to say something to them. I do and I do not care what they have to say back. Their actions are altogether wrong and they know this. There have been times when I have seen someone drop their smoke carcass and said "Hey, you dropped something!" to make them look and realize that they have littered.
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The State of Texas has a site that you can go to and report litterbugs by using their license plate.

http://www.dontmesswithtexas.org/report-a-litterer.php

I have used it on more than one occasion.
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Old 02-19-10, 10:01 AM   #18
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I heard that with a J79 GE engine, you can minimize smoking by running it on minimum afterburner and using flaps to control speed.
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would you really confront someone and maybe offend them just because of this annoyance? there was a case here where a guy approached a smoker in a nonsmoking place and the smoker pulled out a gun and shot him to death. i imagine that is a real possibility
Yeah I know what ya mean! I think almost all smokers are totin' a gun just waitin' for someone to aproach them about their nasty habit...good lord!
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That is one of my pet peeves. When I was younger and bolder, on a couple of occasions I picked up butts that people threw out at at traffic lights, and threw them back in their laps.
A good friend of mine threw a butt in the gutter in front of my house. I picked it up and put it in the garbage right in front of him. I think he finally got the hint.
No use complaining to the cops, they do it too.
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would you really confront someone and maybe offend them just because of this annoyance? there was a case here where a guy approached a smoker in a nonsmoking place and the smoker pulled out a gun and shot him to death. i imagine that is a real possibility
But the attitude of SEP(somebody else's problem), is what I think is very wrong with our society today. No one says or does anything, and we have this crap where no one cares anymore. They have no incentive not to, since everything is "accepted" by society.

Besides, this is Colorado... I can CCW just as easily as the next guy.

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Many cigarette smokers who drop the butt do not care about the environment, fires or the lungs of others that is why they do what they do. OP, I think it is okay to say something to them. I do and I do not care what they have to say back. Their actions are altogether wrong and they know this. There have been times when I have seen someone drop their smoke carcass and said "Hey, you dropped something!" to make them look and realize that they have littered.
Yea, I suppose that is true, they just don't care. But everyone accepts the behavior as ok, so they really don't have a reason to care.

And I don't see how you can set a trash can on fire, if you put out the cigarette first. That should be common sense, to put it out before putting it into a potential fire trap.

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You can't say anything to them that won't come across as you sitting on your high horse. People are inconsiderate 6 year olds, deep down, and trying to correct their bad behavior won't do anything. If you can reach a butt right after someone has tossed it on the ground, just throw it away yourself, right in front of them...
your giving them too much credit...
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Maybe afraid of the hot butt starting a fire? Just sayin'.
THAT can happen!!!

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hmm, I always thought but was spelled butt but I'm wrong.
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