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    Olympic Ice Hockey - Great stuff!

    I'm tired of looking at the title of that other Olympic Ice Hockey thread. I've really been enjoying the games. As an NHL fan I kind of like seeing a lot of the big stars play for their home countries. And this year it seems that the games are not gimmes for anyone. Out of the final four there is no way to know who will win.

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    Yep. The fact that both Sweden and Russia are out of the medals says a lot about the level of competition.

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    I think the Olympics are for amateurs, professionals do not belong. They gave up "playing for their country" when they went pro. I respect the their decision to go pro (who wouldn't if offered) but there are many talented amateurs who could be on that ice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerBlossom View Post
    I think the Olympics are for amateurs, professionals do not belong. They gave up "playing for their country" when they went pro. I respect the their decision to go pro (who wouldn't if offered) but there are many talented amateurs who could be on that ice.
    That's not just hockey - it would also include curling & any of the "X-game" sports (ski-cross, snowboard-cross, half-pipe, moguls...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerBlossom View Post
    They gave up "playing for their country" when they went pro.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Ryan View Post
    Why?
    Actually forget I asked, that's as bad as an argument over helmets.

    I'm stoked for these last few games, and don't forget to tune in for the women's game in an hour. Should be a good one.

    I don't want to look past the semi's tomorrow, but I'm hoping for a rematch with the US in the finals. We need a second try against Miller, he's been amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    I'm tired of looking at the title of that other Olympic Ice Hockey thread. I've really been enjoying the games. As an NHL fan I kind of like seeing a lot of the big stars play for their home countries. And this year it seems that the games are not gimmes for anyone. Out of the final four there is no way to know who will win.

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    Slovakia is a long shot. Of course in Hockey for jsut 2 games one can never be sure. A hot Goalie and anyone could win it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Ryan View Post
    Actually forget I asked, that's as bad as an argument over helmets.

    I'm stoked for these last few games, and don't forget to tune in for the women's game in an hour. Should be a good one.

    I don't want to look past the semi's tomorrow, but I'm hoping for a rematch with the US in the finals. We need a second try against Miller, he's been amazing.
    Any of the 4 teams can win. I hope the US wins out, but I don't know that we can beat Canada twice. A lot will depend on the refs I suspect. While Russia played terrible in the first period yesterday, the amount of clutching and grabbing in the corners was like watching the NHL 5 yrs ago. JR would have fit right in. If the refs call a game like that, no one can beat Canada. They are too big and strong. The other 3 teams are built on speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerBlossom View Post
    I think the Olympics are for amateurs, professionals do not belong. They gave up "playing for their country" when they went pro. I respect the their decision to go pro (who wouldn't if offered) but there are many talented amateurs who could be on that ice.
    That is bull crap. All of the current crop of athletes are pros now. The skiers get endorsements (or have you not noticed those ads all over the place) These athletes are all "playing for their country".

    Gary Bettman wants the NHL to pull out of the Olympics after this year. The players association is working the Sochi Olympics (2014) into their CBA, since the players want it so much. They are not getting paid right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUOkie View Post
    That is bull crap. All of the current crop of athletes are pros now. The skiers get endorsements (or have you not noticed those ads all over the place) These athletes are all "playing for their country".

    Gary Bettman wants the NHL to pull out of the Olympics after this year. The players association is working the Sochi Olympics (2014) into their CBA, since the players want it so much. They are not getting paid right now.
    All true... which is why the Olympics have lost their appeal for me. It's now all about medal count at any cost.

    I used to marvel way back when (I'm old so long ago) when our athletes were amateurs. There were these amazing stories about how someone sacraficed everything to practice everyday etc to just make it to the Olympics. We didn't medal much, especially in the winter sports, but when we did oh my it was sooooooooo awesome.

    Now, oh hum, OK fine, top professional athlete medalled... what's exciting about that? Nothing...
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    Amateurs or not, the Canadians are ahead of USA 2-0

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    Regardless of how one feels about the pro-amateur debate, these hockey games have been the best games to watch in years.
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    Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."

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    Szabados was awesome in goal.

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    You mean the gold medal favorite won? I'm shocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    Amateurs or not, the Canadians are ahead of USA 2-0
    That is far from hockey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUOkie View Post
    That is bull crap. All of the current crop of athletes are pros now. The skiers get endorsements (or have you not noticed those ads all over the place) These athletes are all "playing for their country".

    Gary Bettman wants the NHL to pull out of the Olympics after this year. The players association is working the Sochi Olympics (2014) into their CBA, since the players want it so much. They are not getting paid right now.
    Bettman is a ******...only reason why he wants this is because he looses money for these two weeks. He ruined hockey for me, while trying to make it "better" for non-traditional fans. This has been the first time since '94 I have watched hockey consistently. (not arguing, just seeing his name makes me want to hire an assassin)

    They do get paid in reward money, and pretty handsomely if they are good. While not on par with what NA traditionally considers pro, its still good. But yes, most of their money is made from endorsments. Just saying. (look at rebagliati he has gotten richer since he stopped competing...he has been brilliant at selling his brand)

    Not a fan of the amateur vs pro thing. I want to watch the best of the best of the best. If, lets take basketball, the greece team killed everyone in the olympics and won...they would be considered the best. WRONG...you can't remotely claim that without beating an US team. PERIOD. If I want to watch the amateurs, I will seek them out. To be a world game and be able to label your athletes as the best, you have to face the best. The original design of the olympics no longer applies.

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    my biggest question why are we using the absolutely vague and stupid IHL system of measuring hockey performance. points scored, vs points scored against should not play a part in the ranking of teams. wins/losses/ties...done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
    I used to marvel way back when (I'm old so long ago) when our athletes were amateurs. There were these amazing stories about how someone sacraficed everything to practice everyday etc to just make it to the Olympics. We didn't medal much, especially in the winter sports, but when we did oh my it was sooooooooo awesome.
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    Still there, look at your own ... **** which team, I think freestyle skiing (sorry this was in the first few days of the olympics and to be honest, I have been pretty much out every night celebrating since it started...). No one, I mean no one wanted to pay for them, the last 4 years they covered all of their expenses to compete at world cups, xgames etc to make more money to pay for food and training. Brilliant storey about how underfunded they were but found local funding to get to the olympics...

    The stories are still there, I just don't think they are being shown by every cable company

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    My prediction...
    Canada Gold
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    Either way I will be at the final game watching ...Canada Pride....

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    The Canadian men's team are finding their groove so it'll be hard for the US to beat them again. But the US men did win a few medals in Nordic combined which they've never won before so who knows, maybe we'll win at another sport we know nothing about.
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    hey I don't know what nordic combined is and I live here hahah, its a pure alpine thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerBlossom View Post
    I think the Olympics are for amateurs, professionals do not belong. They gave up "playing for their country" when they went pro. I respect the their decision to go pro (who wouldn't if offered) but there are many talented amateurs who could be on that ice.
    The shameful thing about the history of the olympics was that the amateur only rule was in use to keep the lower classes out of the Olympics.

    I don't think I would even watch the Olympics if it was amateur only. why have the fourth and fifth best athletes competing when you can have the best.

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    heh, team canada women's hockey wins gold, and outscores everyone with a 48-2
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    The Canadian men have been scary with big scoring outburst, but now the Americans have one of their own- up 6-0 in the first 13 minutes of their game with Finland. They're in the third and haven't scored since (probably trying to be good sportsmen...)
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