Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Foo Off-Topic chit chat with no general subject.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-27-10, 01:33 AM   #1
RubenX 
Look! My Spine!
Thread Starter
 
RubenX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Bikes:
Posts: 619
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Taken for a fool (not an ex thread I promise)

This morning I was in a very bad spot and got help big time... felt like paying it forward in some small way.

One block away from the office, exiting the fast food drive-thru I spotted this young woman. Early 20's, pregnant, in the cold with no jaket, standing there with a sign that said "pregnant, need home and food please help".

I thought about my daughter, my sisters and every other female I know and care about. I pulled over by her side, gave her my spare cash (about ten bucks) and asked if she was hungry. She replied crying "yes sir, I am very very hungry". So I gave her my lunch as well.

It's been 9 hours since that. Now I was very very hungry. I finally got a break at work and could go out to get me an effing lunch. But heading towards the fast food, I pass the spot where the pregnant lady was standing. Right there in the floor, the bag of food I gave her, even the soda... untouched. A big pillow with the same shape as the pregnant lady's belly was a few feet away.

Darn scammers!
RubenX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 01:35 AM   #2
Sixty Fiver
Bicycle Repair Man !!!
 
Sixty Fiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YEG
Bikes: See my sig...
Posts: 27,264
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
In this case it was better to be wrong...
Sixty Fiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 01:51 AM   #3
mustang1
Senior Member
 
mustang1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: London, UK
Bikes: 2006 road bike, 2012 cx bike, 2012 carbon rb, 2014 hardtail
Posts: 2,714
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
There was a guy sitting by the ATM machne with a rotten blanket - obviously homeless. Guy asked me for spare change, I told him I only have notes coming out the ATM. He asked if i could give him a note instead, I told him no. A little argument ensued witht the end result being h got angry, came out of his dirty old blanket, and he was wearing...... Pretty decent clothes underneath. What really struck me was how clean his. White sneakers were.
mustang1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 02:11 AM   #4
SingingSabre 
BF's Level 12 Wizard
 
SingingSabre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Bikes: Diamondback Sorrento turned Xtracycle commuter
Posts: 1,425
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Shoulda taken the food back...and returned the bag with a good ol' deuce.

Y'know, be the instigator of karma...
__________________
Shameless plug (my sites):
Work
Photography
Vanity
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bklyn
Obviously, the guy's like a 12th level white wizard or something. His mere presence is a danger to mortals.
SingingSabre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 02:23 AM   #5
UmneyDurak
RacingBear
 
UmneyDurak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NorCal
Bikes:
Posts: 8,608
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
This morning I was in a very bad spot and got help big time... felt like paying it forward in some small way.

One block away from the office, exiting the fast food drive-thru I spotted this young woman. Early 20's, pregnant, in the cold with no jaket, standing there with a sign that said "pregnant, need home and food please help".

I thought about my daughter, my sisters and every other female I know and care about. I pulled over by her side, gave her my spare cash (about ten bucks) and asked if she was hungry. She replied crying "yes sir, I am very very hungry". So I gave her my lunch as well.

It's been 9 hours since that. Now I was very very hungry. I finally got a break at work and could go out to get me an effing lunch. But heading towards the fast food, I pass the spot where the pregnant lady was standing. Right there in the floor, the bag of food I gave her, even the soda... untouched. A big pillow with the same shape as the pregnant lady's belly was a few feet away.

Darn scammers!
My undergrad desensitized me to these things.
UmneyDurak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 02:58 AM   #6
Sixty Fiver
Bicycle Repair Man !!!
 
Sixty Fiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YEG
Bikes: See my sig...
Posts: 27,264
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
I used to work in the Bahamas... in Freeport there are a lot of panhandlers and a lot of people who treat them with outright hostility which is understandable as so many are not as needy as they say they are and the little kids who sell Conch shells (which you can get for free) make a pretty good living selling these for $5 - $10.

I also understood that this could be a very hard place to live if you were unemployed as they do not have much of a social support system save for the churches and a few charities... walk just a few blocks from the brightly decorated markets and you will find slums hidden away behind the tropical vegetation and pretty flowers.

Most tourists will never see this or visit "tree (three) mile rock" which is where most of the real Bahamians live.

I was coming through the square one afternoon and a man approached me and said he was ashamed to be asking but wanted to know if I could help him get a meal and stressed that he did not want money because he was no beggar.

He explained that he had come to the island because of promised work that never materialized and had no friends or family here. He said he was a Christian and had no vices like alcohol or dope and showed me his hands... these had seen a lot of hard work. He was neat and clean and did not have the air of someone who was slave to drink or smoking.

He said he had not eaten a decent meal in a few days and was just very hungry.

So we went for a lunch of chicken, peas, and rice (after some prayer on his part) and when the meal was over we packed up the leftovers and he thanked me for my help... the meal for 2 people cost less than $10.00 and the gentleman did not eat all his meal saying he needed to save some for later but also ate like a man who was starving.

We talked about life and family and he had a million questions about Canada, he said he had a wife and son but that he could not bring them to live with him until he had work and a home.

I then gave him all the cash I had left in my pocket which was $10.00 and some change and he looked like he was going to cry.

Afterwards I thought that I may have just met the best panhandler on earth but thought that maybe this guy just needed some help... if he was scamming me it was an oscar worthy performance and he never asked me for a dime.

I figure that if someone says they are hungry you feed them, if you can.

I left the island for a while and when I returned about 6 months later to do more work I was walking through Freeport's central market and this same fellow comes running toward me and calling my name, grabs both my hands and starts thanking me profusely for my earlier help and then reaches in his pocket and takes out a ten saying he needed to repay me.

He also said he could not talk for long as he was working at his own market stall and that things had been going well in that he now had a steady work and a place to live and that his family had been able to join him. He then pointed to a young boy working at one of the stalls (his) and said this was his son.

After more thank you's he excused himself as he said he had to get back to work and as it was a busy market day... and then I had to fend off a couple of kids trying to sell me Conch shells.
Sixty Fiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 03:16 AM   #7
GriddleCakes
Tawp Dawg
 
GriddleCakes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Anchorage, AK
Bikes: '06 Surly Pugsley, '14 Surly Straggler, '88 Kuwahara Xtracycle, '10 Motobecane Outcast 29er, '?? Surly Cross Check (wife's), '00 Trek 4500 (wife's), '12 Windsor Oxford 3-speed (dogs')
Posts: 1,221
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Sixty, I like your story a lot better than RubenX's.

I'm still not giving any money to the midtown panhandlers, though.
GriddleCakes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 03:55 AM   #8
RubenX 
Look! My Spine!
Thread Starter
 
RubenX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Bikes:
Posts: 619
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Great story indeed Sixty... we all know the guy really wanted to learn about the US and not Canada but great story indeed
RubenX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 05:18 AM   #9
Tom Stormcrowe
Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
 
Tom Stormcrowe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: South Florida
Bikes: Techna Wheelchair and a Sun EZ 3 Recumbent Trike
Posts: 16,118
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Ruben, she was probably too nauseous to eat the food. I'd bet she was trying to scam her next hit and was hurting. You did the right thing, though and even if you get scammed more than not, the ones rthat are in the not scammmers category make it all worth it.
__________________
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche

"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
Tom Stormcrowe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 07:29 AM   #10
Big_e
Strong with the Fred
 
Big_e's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Bikes:
Posts: 970
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
You did good RubenX. I'm not saying to give money to every joker but you followed your heart and gave to someone you thought was less fortunate. The woman is poor in spirit so she is still less fortunate than you. We're always gonna have the poor. You were on a mission from God and you carried out your mission. I'm proud of you,trooper!
Ernest

Quote:
Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
This morning I was in a very bad spot and got help big time... felt like paying it forward in some small way.

One block away from the office, exiting the fast food drive-thru I spotted this young woman. Early 20's, pregnant, in the cold with no jaket, standing there with a sign that said "pregnant, need home and food please help".

I thought about my daughter, my sisters and every other female I know and care about. I pulled over by her side, gave her my spare cash (about ten bucks) and asked if she was hungry. She replied crying "yes sir, I am very very hungry". So I gave her my lunch as well.

It's been 9 hours since that. Now I was very very hungry. I finally got a break at work and could go out to get me an effing lunch. But heading towards the fast food, I pass the spot where the pregnant lady was standing. Right there in the floor, the bag of food I gave her, even the soda... untouched. A big pillow with the same shape as the pregnant lady's belly was a few feet away.

Darn scammers!
Big_e is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 08:06 AM   #11
Alfster 
long time visiter
 
Alfster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: in the Northern Tundra
Bikes: 2005 Trek 6700 disc 2007 Orbea Onix 2009 Raleigh One Way
Posts: 615
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Like Ernest said, you did good! I have a feeling the girl was needing help.

For a real scammer, google the "shaky lady from Toronto". I probably gave her money before the story broke about her 6 figure income from panhandling. She was a real pro, incorporating realistic shakes to make her look more needy.
Alfster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 08:39 AM   #12
Suzie Green
Cycler
 
Suzie Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 1,499
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If she actually had been pregnant, the burger and fries wouldn't have been the ideal food anyway. So look at the bright side, you only got half-scammed.
Suzie Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 09:21 AM   #13
Pamestique 
Shredding Grandma!
 
Pamestique's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: So Cal
Bikes: I don't own any bikes
Posts: 4,805
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
I look at beggars this way - most of them are scammers... but a few are truly needy. Just the other day I gave $10 to a man saying he had car trouble and needed gas... you know the bull. I look at it as I was doing the right thing - whether or not he was is his problem. If I in my innocence and ignorance did help someone... that's good by me. Rueben what you did was good. Sadly the woman was bad...
__________________
______________________________________________________________

Private docent led mountain bike rides through Limestone Canyon. Go to letsgooutside.org and register today! Also available: hikes, equestrian rides and family events as well as trail maintenance and science study.
Pamestique is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 09:32 AM   #14
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Bikes: 2010 Expedition, 03 GTO
Posts: 30,115
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 399 Post(s)
I worked full time with homeless shelter people for four years.
They are experts and all know how to scam you.

I would only take someone in side to eat if they say they need food.
Would only pump gas into their car.
Give them new shoes, and they take them to a pawn shop.

Give them cash and you have bought them a joint, wine , or whatever.

I have been scammed more then anyone here.
__________________
[SIZE=1][B]What I like about Texas[/B]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGukLuXzH1E

Set F1re To The Ra1n ( NY Night Rain Ride)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7jfcWEkSrI
10 Wheels is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 11:15 AM   #15
ilikebikes
K2ProFlex baby!
 
ilikebikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: My response would have been something along the lines of: "Does your bike have computer controlled suspension? Then shut your piehole, this baby is from the future!"
Bikes: to many to list
Posts: 6,087
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
next time you see her kick her in the crotch and poop on her head.
__________________
You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve
ilikebikes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 11:24 AM   #16
Mr. Beanz
Banned.
 
Mr. Beanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Upland Ca
Bikes: Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem
Posts: 20,030
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Food dropped on the floor, 10 second rule!
Lunch left on side of road in bag untouched, 10 hour rule!
Mr. Beanz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 12:32 PM   #17
waldowales
Old Fogy
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Murray, Utah
Bikes:
Posts: 1,224
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I just can't bring myself to say "no" sometimes, although I know many of these people are professional panhandlers. That must make it tougher on those truly in need.
waldowales is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 05:40 PM   #18
Nachoman
Senior Member
 
Nachoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Point Loma, CA
Bikes: Bill Holland (Road-Ti), Fuji Roubaix Pro (back-up), Bike Friday (folder), Co-Motion (tandem) & Trek 750 (hybrid)
Posts: 14,169
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 69 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by waldowales View Post
I just can't bring myself to say "no" sometimes, although I know many of these people are professional panhandlers. That must make it tougher on those truly in need.
you'd learn to say no if you had to pass 20 of them a day.
__________________
.
.

Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.
Nachoman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 06:10 PM   #19
longbeachgary
Senior Member
 
longbeachgary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Beautiful Long Beach California
Bikes: Eddy Merkx San Remo 76, Eddy Merckx Sallanches 64 (2); Eddy Merckx MXL; 2013 Cannondale CAAD10 DI2, The Black Mambo
Posts: 3,458
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 73 Post(s)
There is no doubt in my mind that these panhandlers make more money than they would woking at a regular job. I just want to scream when I see someone stopping to give these lowlifes money.
longbeachgary is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 07:09 PM   #20
coasting 
Still can't climb
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Limey in Taiwan
Bikes:
Posts: 22,645
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mustang1 View Post
There was a guy sitting by the ATM machne with a rotten blanket - obviously homeless. Guy asked me for spare change, I told him I only have notes coming out the ATM. He asked if i could give him a note instead, I told him no. A little argument ensued witht the end result being h got angry, came out of his dirty old blanket, and he was wearing...... Pretty decent clothes underneath. What really struck me was how clean his. White sneakers were.
most beggars in london are organised crime gangs. theres a gang that works my tube station which gets together plan and then spread out to strategic spots. They all use dirty desperate looking women holding babies. i was locking my bike and saw the one outside the supermarket talking on her mobile phone and when i cam e out after buying my stuff, she had suddenly lost the ability to speak english and could just gesture to say she wanted cash to buy food. I told her to call for a pizza.
__________________
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer

No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 07:11 PM   #21
coasting 
Still can't climb
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Limey in Taiwan
Bikes:
Posts: 22,645
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
Food dropped on the floor, 10 second rule!
Lunch left on side of road in bag untouched, 10 hour rule!
now that's something to remember if you are close to bonking.
__________________
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer

No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 07:33 PM   #22
travelmama
Senior Member
 
travelmama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Long Beach,CA
Bikes: Kona Ute, Nishiki 4130, Trek 7000, K2 Mach 1.0, Novara Randonee, Schwinn Loop, K2 Zed 1.0, Schwinn Cream, Torker Boardwalk
Posts: 1,410
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by longbeachgary View Post
There is no doubt in my mind that these panhandlers make more money than they would woking at a regular job. I just want to scream when I see someone stopping to give these lowlifes money.
I feel the same. For the last ten years or so there have been several men who stand on the off ramp up where I live. One guy had a work for food sign that was as decrepit as he which meant there was no way he was going to work. He was in such bad shape that I was certain he was going to die on that corner. I don't see him anymore. There are two more clowns who stand on the same corner and have been there for about 6 years with the same old act. I once gave clothing and food to one. He told me that he did not need the clothing and walked away. He and his posse collect enough to buy newspapers, food and booze. They don't want help.
I have been approached by so many that I stop them in their tracks by telling them it is old. One meth maven had been cruising around a parking lot begging for money for her kids. I told her that I know she has no kids and has been begging for far too long. She too walked away.
I volunteer at the local rescue mission and no one is turned away. They serve two hot meals a day to anyone who walks up. The meals are better than what I provide for myself at home. In fact, I have shared a meal with the "guests" because it wasn't bad. The panhandlers will not go to these places because they enjoy playing people and having the freedom to drown out in booze and drugs.
travelmama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 08:01 PM   #23
bigbenaugust 
always rides with luggage
 
bigbenaugust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: KIGX
Bikes: 2009 Fantom CX, 2012 Fantom Cross Uno, Bakfiets
Posts: 1,995
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
I thought about my daughter, my sisters and every other female I know and care about.
This is a pretty big group though, isn't it?
__________________
--Ben
Carrboro Bike Coalition - putting the "bike" in "CARrboro" :)
2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
Non-Bike hardware: Xubuntu / Ubuntu MATE / Mac OS 10.6 / Android 4.4 / CyanogenMod 13
bigbenaugust is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 08:02 PM   #24
JoelS
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Near Sacramento
Bikes:
Posts: 4,890
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
If you want to give, don't do it directly, go through a church or food bank or mission or some such.

I have offered several food, but they turn it down. They want money for booze and drugs.
__________________
-------

Some sort of pithy irrelevant one-liner should go here.
JoelS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-10, 08:12 PM   #25
coasting 
Still can't climb
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Limey in Taiwan
Bikes:
Posts: 22,645
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
just give them booze and drugs. easier
__________________
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer

No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:20 PM.