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    Anybody speak Chinese/Japanese?

    Hey all,

    I bought what i think is a Chinese I Ching coin and want to know what the characters mean, but i cant find much on the internet. Is it Chinese or Japanese? Any help would be appreciated,

    Thanks

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    That is a Chinese coin, and the pictograms are classic Chinese pictograms rather than Chinese Simplified modern.
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    it's chinese.

    might help if you turned it counter clockwise by 90 degrees.

    the 3'oclock character is 'path
    the 6'oclock character is 'wealth'
    the 9'oclock character is probably 'intelligence'
    the 12'oclock character is probably 'completeness'

    some minor differences between Chinese and Japanese characters.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    it's chinese.

    might help if you turned it counter clockwise by 90 degrees.

    the 3'oclock character is 'path
    the 6'oclock character is 'wealth'
    the 9'oclock character is probably 'intelligence'
    the 12'oclock character is probably 'completeness'

    some minor differences between Chinese and Japanese characters.
    Thank you, So is this the correct way to look at the characters? Sorry for dark picture.

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    yep, that's the correct way.

    I'm not sure what the 9 and 12 characters are, but the 9 is definitely money related.
    anything with 貝 in it is usually money related.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    i suggest you do not get a chinese word tatooed without having a chinese speaker with you. Imagine getting tagged "*******" on your bum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coasting View Post
    i suggest you do not get a chinese word tatooed without having a chinese speaker with you. Imagine getting tagged "*******" on your bum.
    Lol, wasnt planning on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coasting View Post
    i suggest you do not get a chinese word tatooed without having a chinese speaker with you. Imagine getting tagged "*******" on your bum.
    worst thing ever is tattooing a word you think looks/sounds cool in a language you don't understand into yourself. Everybody will frown when they see it.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    there seems to be some sort of trendy thing where chinese words are tattooed. so strange. why not do it in your own language?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coasting View Post
    there seems to be some sort of trendy thing where chinese words are tattooed. so strange. why not do it in your own language?
    to some people the meaning of the character can have a strong symbolic meaning to the persons life and or spiritual path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coasting View Post
    there seems to be some sort of trendy thing where chinese words are tattooed. so strange. why not do it in your own language?
    same mentality as using latin and greek words in the sciences.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeiadart View Post
    to some people the meaning of the character can have a strong symbolic meaning to the persons life and or spiritual path.

    stop smoking that stuff. there may be long term effects we don't yet know about.
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    anyway, back to topic. I think you can tell it is a chinese coin because of the square hole. it has something to do with the way they used to stack them and count them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coasting View Post
    stop smoking that stuff. there may be long term effects we don't yet know about.
    lol
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    alright kids, let the native speaker handle this:

    12 & 6 o'clock says Xian-Feng (咸豐, roughly pronounced sian-feng, meaning universal prosperity), which was a dynastic reign title for the emperor Aisin-Gioro I Ju. He was an emperor of the Manchu dynasty. The Manchus were a group of nomadic tribes who invaded China in the 1600's, and controlled China until 1911. Even though the Manchus reigned over China, they are actually ethnically different (and indeed spoke a different language) from the majority Han people of China.

    3 & 9 o'clock says 通寳 (tung-bao), meaning standard jewel. This signifies that the coin is a standard monetary instrument, minted during the reign of Emperor Xianfeng, to be accepted as legal tender throughout China.

    I'm sorry to inform you that this has nothing to do with the I-Ching, but if you live in the U.S., i suggest you sue the pants off of the seller for misinformation

    AEO, most of your definitions are correct, but each Chinese character often have numerous meanings. If you are not a native speaker, I'm actually quite impressed with your knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich View Post
    alright kids, let the native speaker handle this:

    12 & 6 o'clock says Xian-Feng (咸豐, roughly pronounced sian-feng, meaning universal prosperity), which was a dynastic reign title for the emperor Aisin-Gioro I Ju. He was an emperor of the Manchu dynasty. The Manchus were a group of nomadic tribes who invaded China in the 1600's, and controlled China until 1911. Even though the Manchus reigned over China, they are actually ethnically different (and indeed spoke a different language) from the majority Han people of China.

    3 & 9 o'clock says 通寳 (tung-bao), meaning standard jewel. This signifies that the coin is a standard monetary instrument, minted during the reign of Emperor Xianfeng, to be accepted as legal tender throughout China.

    I'm sorry to inform you that this has nothing to do with the I-Ching, but if you live in the U.S., i suggest you sue the pants off of the seller for misinformation

    AEO, most of your definitions are correct, but each Chinese character often have numerous meanings. If you are not a native speaker, I'm actually quite impressed with your knowledge.
    yeah, I was thinking that the characters were supposed to be grouped together, just not sure which ones.
    I'm literate in japanese, which is why I can guess chinese characters, but they're not all the same, which makes it hard.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    I have a friend that got this tattooed on his neck.

    牲口的妓女

    When he went to Beijing for the Olympics recently, he had a lot of trouble with customs. Go figure.



    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    yeah, I was thinking that the characters were supposed to be grouped together, just not sure which ones.
    I'm literate in japanese, which is why I can guess chinese characters, but they're not all the same, which makes it hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    I have a friend that got this tattooed on his neck.

    牲口的妓女

    When he went to Beijing for the Olympics recently, he had a lot of trouble with customs. Go figure.
    Fido needed google translate but still...

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    IMHO your coin definitely looks like a cheap modern reproduction. I hope yopu didn't pay much for it, being told it's a really old coin. They're a dime a dozen here in Taiwan.
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    Japanese?? Anyone??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Cloud View Post
    Japanese?? Anyone??
    made in (can't read province or city name), Japan

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    I have a friend that got this tattooed on his neck.

    牲口的妓女

    When he went to Beijing for the Olympics recently, he had a lot of trouble with customs. Go figure.
    lol...
    strike one: tattoo (associated with mafias)
    strike two: what it says (f....o)
    strike three: going during olympics

    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    ^^^Thanx...Hmmm...Anybody else???

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    Fido just emailed his feline friends Takashi in Japan and Mei Li in China

    They thought it was amusing too but not roll around funny like Fido suggested.

    Takashi says he smirked


    Mei Li giggled
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Cloud View Post
    Japanese?? Anyone??
    alright, it's calligraphy, and that makes it hard to read. looks like it's all in kanji (meaning characters of the Han people, i.e., Mandarin Chinese). as AEO pointed out, the three on the right says great Japanese Empire (大日本). I have no idea what's on the left as it's in some kind of freestyle calligraphy

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    I have a friend that got this tattooed on his neck.

    牲口的妓女

    When he went to Beijing for the Olympics recently, he had a lot of trouble with customs. Go figure.


    was your friend trying to say "son of a female dog" or "harlot of livestocks." Either way, he should get a refund or sue the proprietor of the tattoo parlor. Btw, who else here can speak Mandarin Chinese?

    edit: Tom, why is that b-i-t-c-h is a bad word (or w-h-o-r-e) for that matter? I'm pretty sure that George Carlin didn't have them as in the seven dirty words, and the Bard was known for his liberal use of both.

    edit 2: just realized Tom does not live in Canada. Umm, how is it that i saw the words Canada somewhere near his name?
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