Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Foo Off-Topic chit chat with no general subject.

View Poll Results: Which Internet Security Suite do you recommend?
Kaspersky 1 3.33%
SymantecNorton 4 13.33%
AVG 7 23.33%
Trend Micro 2 6.67%
McAfee 1 3.33%
ZoneAlarm 0 0%
BullGuard 0 0%
Panda 0 0%
Other (please specify) 10 33.33%
I don't need no stinkin protection....I only use the interwebz for BF.net 5 16.67%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-08-10, 12:57 AM   #1
wheeldeal
ɹǝqɯǝɯ ɹoıuǝs
Thread Starter
 
wheeldeal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Earth
Bikes: Huffy and Pacific
Posts: 378
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What Internet Security Suite do you use?

There are so many Internet Security Suites (combination of antivirus/firewall/antispam/antiphishing, etc.) out there.

Does anyone have a good recommendation on a good one?
wheeldeal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 01:24 AM   #2
UmneyDurak
RacingBear
 
UmneyDurak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NorCal
Bikes:
Posts: 8,576
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26 Post(s)
Free zone alarm, no script for FF, and I don't download random crap on my computer.

Oh and I can read your sig without turning my head.
UmneyDurak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 06:20 AM   #3
stonecrd
OnTheRoad or AtTheBeach
 
stonecrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Weston, FL
Bikes: Ridley Noah RS, Scott CR1 Pro
Posts: 2,170
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'm using Microsoft security essentials, also free
__________________
The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard and the shallow end is much too large

2013 Noah RS
stonecrd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 09:02 AM   #4
jsharr
You Know!? For Kids!
 
jsharr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Just NW of Richardson Bike Mart
Bikes: '05 Trek 1200 / '90 Trek 8000 / '? Falcon Europa
Posts: 6,157
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Surprisingly, Cnet gave Microsoft Security Essentials decent marks.
__________________
Are you a registered member? Why not? Click here to register. It's free and only takes 27 seconds! Help out the forums, abide by our community guidelines.
Quote:
Originally Posted by colorider View Post
Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
jsharr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 09:22 AM   #5
mike047
Grumpy
 
mike047's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Zirconia, NC
Bikes: Fuji Nevada 3.0/ Giant Sedona DX/Giant Defy 3/ Corsa with a tall seat post
Posts: 200
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Trend Micro PC Cillan.

You have to pay for it but it works. I have used it for years with no issues.
mike047 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 07:36 PM   #6
shouldberiding
Senior Member
 
shouldberiding's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Madison, WI
Bikes: '08 Trek 7.3FX
Posts: 811
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by stonecrd View Post
I'm using Microsoft security essentials, also free
Me too.
shouldberiding is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 07:47 PM   #7
AEO
Senior Member
 
AEO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
Bikes: Bianchi, Miyata, Dahon, Rossin
Posts: 12,258
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
$30 for a copy of kaspersky oem. good for a year.
$30 for a renewal key each year.

works better than AVG and isn't intrusive or bloated.

stay away from 'security suite' or 'all-in-one' software. Only use programs you need. Often these programs have software you don't even need, yet will run in the background, slowing your computer down.
stay away from norton, mcafee, trend micro, all of which, if not configured correctly, will slow down your system to a crawl. Trend Micro corporate version is good, but stay away from the consumer version.


free programs that do what they're designed to do without bogging down your system:
hijack this
spybot S&D
free AVG
zone alarm
__________________
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
AEO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 08:09 PM   #8
StupidlyBrave 
Chepooka
 
StupidlyBrave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: South Central PA
Bikes: 1990 Trek 1400 7spd; 2001 Litespeed Arenberg 10 speed
Posts: 1,167
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I use avg-free and Spybot S&d on four computers at home. I'm not thrilled with them, but they do a decent job.

The biggest impact I have made to malware avoidance is to not allow my wife and kids to have "Computer Administrator" role. No question.
StupidlyBrave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 11:20 PM   #9
wheeldeal
ɹǝqɯǝɯ ɹoıuǝs
Thread Starter
 
wheeldeal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Earth
Bikes: Huffy and Pacific
Posts: 378
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by AEO View Post
$30 for a copy of kaspersky oem. good for a year.
$30 for a renewal key each year.

works better than AVG and isn't intrusive or bloated.

stay away from 'security suite' or 'all-in-one' software. Only use programs you need. Often these programs have software you don't even need, yet will run in the background, slowing your computer down.
stay away from norton, mcafee, trend micro, all of which, if not configured correctly, will slow down your system to a crawl. Trend Micro corporate version is good, but stay away from the consumer version.


free programs that do what they're designed to do without bogging down your system:
hijack this
spybot S&D
free AVG
zone alarm
I was thinking about getting Norton Internet Security 2010 for $19.99 or Bitdefender Total Security 2010 (also for $19.99).

They seem to have good reviews from what I've read. You don't think these are good "security suites"?
wheeldeal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 11:32 PM   #10
Pewter_Camaro
Whats the Smell?
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chi' Town Suburbs
Bikes: 72 Schwinn Suburban, Beater FleaBay bike, '73 Raleigh Record
Posts: 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by stonecrd View Post
I'm using Microsoft security essentials, also free
same here.. so far its been a less intrusive than others that I've used.
Pewter_Camaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 11:44 PM   #11
annc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 428
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Don't connect your computer directly to the internet; always go through a router and you should be fine. And don't surf porn and download from limewire.
annc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 11:48 PM   #12
Shifty
Sore saddle cyclist
 
Shifty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Eugene, OR
Bikes: Road, touring and mountain
Posts: 3,852
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Trend Micro is the best I've ever used, keeps the bad guys out.
Shifty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-10, 11:58 PM   #13
AEO
Senior Member
 
AEO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
Bikes: Bianchi, Miyata, Dahon, Rossin
Posts: 12,258
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeldeal View Post
I was thinking about getting Norton Internet Security 2010 for $19.99 or Bitdefender Total Security 2010 (also for $19.99).

They seem to have good reviews from what I've read. You don't think these are good "security suites"?
The main problem with security suites is that they have a lot of programs rolled into one, and unless you know what you are doing with the settings, can become a good tool that keeps you happy or you become the tool to keep it happy.

If you go with bitdefender total security, which I've never used, but looking at the screen shots, which seem to be similar to norton suite..., disable tune-up, file manager and network map, unless you absolutely want them functioning.

tune-up: will slow down your computer if you leave it on auto because it'll try and 'optimize' or defrag your hard drive (slowing your computer considerably).
file manager: will slow down your computer where it hurts the most, the hard drive by making constant backups of files you might not need. It only protects file deletion from sheer idiocy, because you should know which files are important to you and you'd never delete or overwrite those, now would you?
network map: totally useless unless you have more than one computer and like doing administrator work over the network, rather than just working on another computer directly. It won't give you full control anyways, so why bother?


If you go with norton, which I hope you don't, because the software isn't good.
1: very intrusive, tells you "see? look at me work, I'm scanning your computer, and to prove that I am, I'm going to slow your system down to a crawl to make it look like I'm doing hard work."
2: eats up a lot of system resources
3: very time consuming to install and setup
4: very time consuming to uninstall
5: very time consuming to upgrade to newer version, because you can't just do "upgrade". That's just asking for trouble. It'll break norton 90% of the time, so you must uninstall first, run a complete uninstaller, then install the new copy and even then it's not a 100% guarantee that norton will work correctly.
6: if your computer breaks down, I assure you the computer technician that you hire to repair it will just install free AVG onto your computer and say norton was causing the problems, or didn't catch the virus before it caused havoc.
__________________
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
AEO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 12:25 AM   #14
deraltekluge
Senior Member
 
deraltekluge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Bikes: Kona Cinder Cone, Sun EZ-3 AX
Posts: 1,195
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I don't use a suite...just AVG antivirus, free version, on a couple of computers.

I do have Norton on one computer, but when my subscription expires, I'll switch to AVG.
deraltekluge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 12:38 AM   #15
eelriver
Steelhead bum
 
eelriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SF, CA
Bikes: Marin Muirwoods 29er
Posts: 33
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I voted "Other". I use Slackware on my desktop and OSX on my laptop. Both of them connect through a hardware firewall. (router)
eelriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 02:08 AM   #16
wheeldeal
ɹǝqɯǝɯ ɹoıuǝs
Thread Starter
 
wheeldeal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Earth
Bikes: Huffy and Pacific
Posts: 378
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by AEO View Post
If you go with norton, which I hope you don't, because the software isn't good.
Do you speak with experience? If so, when was the last time you used Norton? Was it 2008 & earlier? The reason I ask is because from my quick research, it seems like Norton got their act together in 2009 & 2010. Most "professional" reviewers (CNET, PCWorld, PCmag, etc), says that their '09 & '10 version is a huge improvement over earlier versions.

Here are the sources I used for my "research".
http://www.av-comparatives.org/image...ynamic2009.pdf
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817...079TX1K0000992
http://internet-security-suite-revie...enreviews.com/
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2351871,00.asp

Now, I'm really confused.
wheeldeal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 04:08 AM   #17
vegenaise
Banned.
 
Join Date: May 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 168
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
linux.
vegenaise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 05:01 AM   #18
mikewille
Frame Catastrophizer
 
mikewille's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Suburban Chicago
Bikes: Surly Instigator
Posts: 450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Eset NOD32.
mikewille is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 08:55 AM   #19
Wordbiker
Pwnerer
 
Wordbiker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Pagosa Springs, CO, USA
Bikes: Road, MTB, Cruiser, Chopper, BMX
Posts: 2,907
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'll bet you're asking so you'll know the best way to exploit my system.


Not falling for that one again...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahsposo View Post
Ski, bike and wish I was gay.
Wordbiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 10:10 AM   #20
HardyWeinberg
GATC
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: south Puget Sound
Bikes:
Posts: 7,543
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 74 Post(s)
'microsoft security essentials'
HardyWeinberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 10:18 AM   #21
ARider2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 263
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have been using Norton Internet Security (NIS) and it was working well until yesterday. That is when rogue malware got in and began to attack. The attack has happened to me before and this time it appeared as "Vista Anti-Virus 2010". It may also have other names but it always appears as a fake anti-virus (AV). This fake AV was able to get under Norton and disable it. The way these fake AV attacks work, a pop up will tell you that your computer is infected with a virus, and you should click here to start a scan. DO NOT start the scan or you are really screwed.

To fix it I had to download free AV software from MalwareBytes.org. Then I had to re-boot my computer in safe mode, and run a scan using the MalwareBytes AV software to remove the virus. Note that Norton did not detect the attack at all.

So, overall I WAS happy with Norton, but I am very disappointed about this recent attack and Norton's inability to prevent it.

Last edited by ARider2; 03-09-10 at 10:21 AM.
ARider2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 10:26 AM   #22
mikeybikes
Senior Member
 
mikeybikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Edgewater, CO
Bikes: Tons
Posts: 3,214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Linux.

/thread
mikeybikes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 10:41 AM   #23
RUOkie
Scarlet Knight
 
RUOkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: In a Haggard Song
Bikes: 2009 ORBEA Onix Rival. 2012 Felt Breed, 1999 Raleigh 500
Posts: 10,781
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 200 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by annc View Post
Don't connect your computer directly to the internet; always go through a router and you should be fine. And don't surf porn and download from limewire.
Then what is the point of the internet. I thought the internet was made for porn and lolcatz.
RUOkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 11:00 AM   #24
coasting 
Still can't climb
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Limey in Taiwan
Bikes:
Posts: 22,645
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
are the paid for ones really safer than the free ones?
__________________
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer

No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-10, 11:18 AM   #25
jsharr
You Know!? For Kids!
 
jsharr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Just NW of Richardson Bike Mart
Bikes: '05 Trek 1200 / '90 Trek 8000 / '? Falcon Europa
Posts: 6,157
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
the paid ones generally have updates for the latest viruses, etc.
__________________
Are you a registered member? Why not? Click here to register. It's free and only takes 27 seconds! Help out the forums, abide by our community guidelines.
Quote:
Originally Posted by colorider View Post
Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
jsharr is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:15 PM.