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Old 03-10-10, 10:20 AM   #1
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Are Runners closer to nature than Cyclists?

Recent studies show that simply by having positive contact with nature will mean that you feel closer to it. So if you use the 'natural' environment in a particular way does this change the degree of affinity one feels.

It could be said that as cyclists travel at higher speeds they take in less of what's around them. I'd like to hear your opinions via the forum and get some info. via a survey if you can spare 3-4 minutes. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Closeness_to_Nature

Are Runners closer to nature than cyclists. Do vegetarians differ significantly to carnivores in how they feel about nature, do BMX enthusiasts get the same things from being in the environment as naturalists, and does a Snowboarder feel the same way as someone whoís into surfing!
Recent studies in psychology show that spending time in nature is good for mental health as well as physical health, simply looking at pictures of the environment has been shown to change peoples behaviour .
So if looking at pictures, of trees say, can influence people to be more generous I wonder if there are different things that people get from the Ďnaturalí environment.

Iím posting this as I think this is something that may interest people. Iím carrying out a pilot study for my BSc that takes around 2 minutes to complete online and Iíll let anyone whoís interested know what I found out at the end
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Closeness_to_Nature

It's only clicking buttons and requires no hard thinking or written answers and its completely anonymous
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Old 03-10-10, 10:23 AM   #2
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Doubtful. 1. Most cyclists are out for a longer period of time communing with nature. Maybe we enjoy it more since our pain is less intense. Bikes are not so fast that we can't still sniff the fresh mountain air.
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no...what you do has NOTHING to do with how close you are to nature.
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I am wearing a bear suit. grrrrrr, grrrrrrrrrr
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I grease my chain with whale oil which definitely makes me feel close to nature than those slaves to petroleum.
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Doubtful. 1. Most cyclists are out for a longer period of time communing with nature. Maybe we enjoy it more since our pain is less intense. Bikes are not so fast that we can't still sniff the fresh mountain air.
I've not done any research on the effect of speed and perception but I would imagine that senses and thought processes are possibly heightened due to the need to react much faster.

Could it be said that you were taking in more information at greater speed and paying more attention to your environment in which case you could argue that you were more closely alligned due to necessity.
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i bike to be outside runners run for health
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Runners are obviously closer, as they are only seperated from nature by the thickness of their sneakers. Cyclists are off the ground a bit. Most cyclists endeavor to avoid contact with nature, especially sudden contact at speed.
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I tried your survey, but none of your choices applied to a road cycling, and when you type in "other" It was regected. I ride outside to enjoy nature, and get a lot of exercise. Nothing is cut and dry.
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I ran over a snake at speed once on the mtb. Definitely prefered that to the "communing" I would've had if I was on foot.
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A focused althlete is generally not that close to nature no matter where they are running or riding.

I took up mountain biking because it combined my love for cycling with my love for nature. Problem is I find I poke along sometimes because I get all wrapped up in checking for wildflowers, water, critters etc. I also like to hike and can poke along doing that as well . But before someone thinks hiking is closer... I have been out with cardio folks... good lord, talk about focused! Those folks are just into going hard and fast... nature ain't important!
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reminds me when I first got a 4wd truck and took my sister to the beach. she got out and layed belly down and did the snow-angel thing in the sand. she was trying to get as close as possible to the beach sand as she could. don't worry, we got her help, but I imagine that's about as close to nature as yer gonna get.

I suspect the machine separates you from the ground so then running is a more intimate experience.
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It all depends where your ride/run, your pace, and your intentions.
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Runners are obviously closer, as they are only seperated from nature by the thickness of their sneakers. Cyclists are off the ground a bit. Most cyclists endeavor to avoid contact with nature, especially sudden contact at speed.
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I try to avoid getting too close to nature myself in that perspective.
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They are closer. And no vegetarians don't feel more connected they feel less. Fact. 1 in 3 vegetarians doesn't feel close to the Earth. All Meat eaters fell close to the Earth. Can't argue there's numbers involved.
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I think recumbent riders are closer to nature than mountain bikers who are close to nature than bmx riders who in turn are closer to nature than roadies.
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They are closer. And no vegetarians don't feel more connected they feel less. Fact. 1 in 3 vegetarians doesn't feel close to the Earth. All Meat eaters fell close to the Earth. Can't argue there's numbers involved.

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I've not done any research on the effect of speed and perception but I would imagine that senses and thought processes are possibly heightened due to the need to react much faster.

Could it be said that you were taking in more information at greater speed and paying more attention to your environment in which case you could argue that you were more closely alligned due to necessity.
Could be compared to the isolation of being trapped in a car, all perceptions seem more aware of your surroundings. Plus, the effects of deep breathing and athleticism. . Don't we say something like breathe deep and smell the roses.
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I just swam a mile, rode 16, and ran 1.8. Does that make me really close to nature? I'll be eating meat soon, too!
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From what I've seen runners are usually not close to nature. Most run on the street and avoid any trails. When I was in college there were lots of runners around town, but I ran the cross country course to train. Except for teh guys on the cross country team, some other rugby players and a lone baseball player I never saw anyone else run the course.

But there are a few runners that are close to nature. I saw one running up a local mountian trail a few years ago. Dirt and elevation change. Good training, bad to bragging about how many miles he ran.
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Speaking of baseball, that's when I was closest to nature. I usually had a few grams of earth embedded in my abraded elbows, knees, and thighs.
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