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    Architectural details trim corner block or not?

    We have a window we are trimming with corner blocks and Victorian moulding to match the rest of the house, but it is too close to a sidewall to fit the whole corner block.

    Which is preferable - shave off the outer part of the corner block so it sits at the edge of the window like the other side (upper picture), or move it over the window so the whole block can be used (lower picture)?
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    Go through a bunch of old houses, they're trimmed every time.

    ps-> If you're working on an actual old house, it might be worth hunting down an architectural salvage yard to get actual old bullseyes. They look a lot nicer than the manufactured ones you can get at a big box store.

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    If it were my house I wouldn't want it trimmed. That would look incomplete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
    If it were my house I wouldn't want it trimmed. That would look incomplete.
    You could use your tomahawk to trim it, though!

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    Actually you two respondents echo the gender specific attitudes in my house.

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    the only correct thing to do is to tear the whole house down and rebuild.
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    Move the window.
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    Trim it.
    A block pushed over the top of the window is weird.
    You want it to appear as though the window is symmetrically framed, but the sidewall is obscuring part of the left side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    the only correct thing to do is to tear the whole house down and rebuild.
    Well no. There is an alternative, but I don't think they'll like it. It involves distorting space time in order to make room for the entire corner block.

    You need to go to Switzerland, to building 7 at the LHC. You'll meet a man wearing a tie with a short-sleeved dress shirt. He will take you to Wolfgang. Wolfgang specializes in physical rarities. Tell no one and make sure you're not followed. The French aren't especially fond of him, and rumor is Stephen Hawking said he'd kill him on sight if they ever met again.

    You will need to purchase a microscopic black hole from Wolfgang. I actually recommend several so you can use superposition to smooth out distortions. Nobody likes their space-time looking like a cheap photoshop trick.

    This next part is important: it has to be a Reissner-Nordström black hole. Only an idiot would keep a Kerr or Schwarzschild hole on their home planet. You can use electromagnetic confinement to control Reissner-Nordström black holes.

    This is also important: Do not take them out of their vacuum packaging and do not feed the black holes. I can't tell you how many people think spaghettification is the coolest thing they've ever seen. Before you know it, they're throwing rulers, tape measures, yardsticks, and inevitably - spaghetti into it to watch the cool stretching effect. Next thing you know it gets too heavy, falls to the ground, and another planet vanishes.

    Once you've got them home, you need to arrange them around the window to create the gravitational distortion pattern you want.

    It won't be perfect. However, I think there was an episode where MacGyver used saran-wrap to make an optical lens that corrected the distortion from gravitational lensing. Your call.

    Good luck, and please - Don't destroy the planet.
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    Hang a curtain over it.



    Actually, the correct response is not to use the corner pieces on that window or it will look asymetrical. If you can't live with that, then shaving the moulding will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    Go through a bunch of old houses, they're trimmed every time.

    ps-> If you're working on an actual old house, it might be worth hunting down an architectural salvage yard to get actual old bullseyes. They look a lot nicer than the manufactured ones you can get at a big box store.

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    +1 this is correct, we had a queen anne victorian and several windows were done this way. Putting the whole block in will look like you don't know how to measure trim. Do some online research there are several companies that make vintage trim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
    Well no. There is an alternative, but I don't think they'll like it. It involves distorting space time in order to make room for the entire corner block.

    snip.

    Good luck, and please - Don't destroy the planet.
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    Second, thank you for making me look normal and well adjusted compared to you.

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    If you don't trim it it will always look as if the frame is "off," if you do trim it it will look as if someone built a wall to close the window frame, either way it'll look kinda wierd.
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
    If you don't trim it it will always look as if the frame is "off," if you do trim it it will look as if someone built a wall to close the window frame, either way it'll look kinda wierd.
    Hence my "move the window" comment. I was serious.

    Pull the exterior casing, pull the window, pull the trimmer from the side farthest from the wall, add a TECO clip to the header/kingstud, apply the trimmer to the wall side, reinstall the window. This will usually net you about 2" more clearance.
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    the door must be moved...its the only sensible thing to do.

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    What would Bob Villa do?

    Personally, I would trim it...or, depending on how "correct" I want it to be, pick another trim that would make it less obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    First, really nice writing. I enjoyed that.

    Second, thank you for making me look normal and well adjusted compared to you.

    Third, I agree fully with all your well thought out points, esp. the MacGuyver thing.
    I'm just trying to give the OP some useful advice, but I'm glad I can help people feel normal by telling them about the guy who wears ties with short-sleeved dress shirts. He gives me the creeps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbiker View Post
    Hence my "move the window" comment. I was serious.

    Pull the exterior casing, pull the window, pull the trimmer from the side farthest from the wall, add a TECO clip to the header/kingstud, apply the trimmer to the wall side, reinstall the window. This will usually net you about 2" more clearance.

    Sounds easy enough.
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
    Sounds easy enough.
    It is for a professional finish carpenter.

    I know it sounds like a lot more work (and it is), but professional pride sometimes requires such measures. A finish carpenter's work is judged on how few mistakes can be seen. One rule of thumb is, "If you can't hide it, make it a feature", meaning if you can't move the window enough to make the trim work (something that should've been given thought before choosing the width of trim that is causing the interference issue) come up with a different trim design for that particular window to make it stand out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbiker View Post
    It is for a professional finish carpenter.

    I know it sounds like a lot more work (and it is), but professional pride sometimes requires such measures. A finish carpenter's work is judged on how few mistakes can be seen. One rule of thumb is, "If you can't hide it, make it a feature", meaning if you can't move the window enough to make the trim work (something that should've been given thought before choosing the width of trim that is causing the interference issue) come up with a different trim design for that particular window to make it stand out.

    No, it really does sound easy enough, I'm just an average Joe and I read through your reply and pictured it in my mind and thought,"Wow, that sounds easy enough."
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    My house has an all brick exterior. Wanna come move some windows for me, mister finish carpenter fancy pants wordbiker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    My house has an all brick exterior. Wanna come move some windows for me, mister finish carpenter fancy pants wordbiker?
    Sure, just watch for my red truck.

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    I live in a Victorian- they're original and they're trimmed where needed.

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