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Old 05-23-10, 04:22 PM   #1
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Apple computers suck

Apple positions its computers as cutting edge in the personal computing marketing place. But I think they suck. Sure they are pretty, and girls like all the different colors they come in, but otherwise they are elitist, expensive and not much more reliable than any other (much cheaper) computer. You can pretty much run only Jobs (aka The Fuehrer) approved software on them, and when you ask whether you could change this or that, or run this piece of software on it you commonly hear "But you don't need to, Apple thought of everything. There is nothing else that you should require, Apple thought of everything".

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Apple positions its computers as cutting edge in the personal computing marketing place. But I think they suck. Sure they are pretty, and girls like all the different colors they come in, but otherwise they are elitist, expensive and not much more reliable than any other (much cheaper) computer. You can pretty much run only Jobs (aka The Fuehrer) approved software on them, and when you ask whether you could change this or that, or run this piece of software on it you commonly hear "But you don't need to, Apple thought of everything. There is nothing else that you should require, Apple thought of everything".

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In other news, the earth is round.
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different colors they come in, ...
That about sums it up. By todays standards; the colored iMacs from 10 years ago totally suck

p.s. the software choices that are available now compared to 5-10 years ago has vastly improved. Most people have never used a modern day mac and thus still use age old arguments against it. Some people still believe that mice on the mac cannot right click

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Wow, Goodwin'ed your own thread in the first post. Bravo.
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I have zero problems with mine. Zero. I doubt I'd be saying that had replaced my last Gates box with another Gates [7] box. Yes, I disagree. It just effing works. I don't have to eff with **** and I love that. BTW, I don't have to mess with anti-virus, anti-adware, or any other of that horse****. That, my friend, in itself is well worth the price.

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Quick, somebody tell all the idiots who keep driving Mac sales to double digit gains year after year.
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iMac's, MacBook's, and MacBook Pro's have had "right click" functionality ( software configurable ) out of the box back to January 2006, so that rant is about 4 years too late. Before then it was simple enough to provide your own mouse if you needed the flexibility of 2 or more buttons.
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you should try using one before making such bold claims.
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People who don't have Porsches or Ferraris are just jealous... You can tinker with, upgrade and tweak your Camaro all you want, but in the end, you're still driving a ... CHEVY!!!
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Isn't the Camero just a Corvette with a different body kit on top?
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People who don't have Porsches or Ferraris are just jealous...
My dream car is Scion xb...

As far as apples go, they are very affordable now. You can get a nice entry level lap top for a grand and I would go with that rather then top of the line window hosts. It just makes sense. They last forever and perform beautifully.
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I've had mine for 6 years and it still performs like new. To me that's forever. ibook g4
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I've got socks older than 6 years.
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I've got jerseys older than 6 years too. I should clean out my closet.
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I don't. Then again I buy the cheap ones.
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I bet the only reason they last that long is that you have multiple socks which you periodically rotate. Most people don't have more than one mac to rotate between.
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I have a mac (2007 macbook c2duo) and a pc (quad core i7 windows 7). IMO macs had an advantage for a while, however that has eroded. I left pc because of windows, and the new windows 7 is great. AN equivalent mac wasn't available when I purchased this, and currently it is 3-4 times what I paid. To each their own though, my mac was ok and very easy to use for most things. I still use the mac ocassionally.
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It's tough to say that Mac's are better than PC's now because they are both made from the same components. A cheap PC will be made cheaper than a Mac because it costs about half as much, but a good PC that costs as much as a Mac will be made from the same components or even better.

Mac software and the Mac OS require a lot less hardware to run than PC's do, so that enables Mac's to have a more useful lifespan. My last PC I kept for 7 years, although at the end of that time it was getting pretty slow.

Mac OS and Mac software are both pretty limited, in that you couldn't run as much software on a Mac as you can on a PC- this is both good and bad, depending on your viewpoint and your needs.

I'm a PC of course, I currently have 4 of them that I use regularly. I'm going to jump on the iphone bandwagon so now I have to join the dark side and buy a Mac. I'm not sure how my PC's will accept a newcomer.

From my viewpoint as a PC I think the biggest enemy of Apple is Apple itself. They have good products but with their attitude it is surprising that anybody buys from them at all. I guess some people will buy from them irregardless. I didn't want to, but I've learned that the other cellphone manufacturers are so bad now that I'm forced to.
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Have a time machine, do ya?

The hardware may be bombproof (or rather boobproof). But what tune will you sing if/when Jobs comes out with a whole new OS that won't be supported on your machine?

People moan and groan about the Windows OS because of it's ability to support the legacy stuff. My laptop came with Vista, but I can just as easily switch to XP or 7 with no problem- or even other non MS OS's with very little compatibility issues. Can you do that on a Mac?
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The hardware may be bombproof (or rather boobproof). But what tune will you sing if/when Jobs comes out with a whole new OS that won't be supported on your machine?
Apple quite reguarlly supports systems that are 4-7 years out of production with current releases of the operating system.

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People moan and groan about the Windows OS because of it's ability to support the legacy stuff. My laptop came with Vista, but I can just as easily switch to XP or 7 with no problem- or even other non MS OS's with very little compatibility issues. Can you do that on a Mac?
Yes, all current Apple hardware can support any current "windows" operating system, with 100% driver support, with a free download from Apple. So good is the hardware you will often see MS employees using Apple hardware and the latest windows operating system. I'm not aware of any Linuxes that have difficulty with the Apple hardware either, unless speaking of some driver issues which are faced on most OEM PC's as well.

On top of dual booting I can also run the OS'es in parallel and with windows apps in a way that is virtually seamless.
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