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    Any social/family services types around?

    Members of my family are being investigated. I am not the primary focus. Nor do I feel at liberty to divulge too much info on a public forum. It is safe to say that it does not involve molestation or any other improper conduct.

    A couple of questions:

    1. Worst case scenario would be what?
    2. Any idea of what kind of timeline until the investigation is over? This is probably based upon the severity of claim?
    3. Will the primary child involved receive any kind of mental evaluation?
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    To complicate things, one of the primaries has been fighting depression for years. The other one we suspect maybe bi-polar.
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    Not enough information to make even an informed guess, sorry, too many variables. It may result, depending on circumstances in anything from enforced family counseling to temporary placement of the child in the system. That's the best estimate of potential outcomes I can give you, based on available info. I can tell you that they will try first to resolve any issues they determine to be in play, though, and help, rather than break up a family, unless it's a very toxic situation.

    I would also definitely tell you not to post much info, if any on a public forum, which you obviously know, already. Good luck, though, and hopefully things will work out for the best.
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    the primaries' battle with depressio might not have an impact - if they are in active treatment and their medical care givers have determined that they are not a danger to themselves or anyone else, that should not be a problem.

    without more info, the worst scenario could be immediate removal of the child. to where depends upon where you live - could be to willing family member or family friend, an emergency temporary placement in a foster home, or a temporary placement in a group home or juvenile center until something more permanant can be found. removal depends upon the circumstances around the investigation - child services DO recognize that they are sometimes called for stupid, petty reasons, which is why they start out with an investigation.

    an investigation involves a bit of talking, visiting, interviewing - family, friends, teachers, medical personnel. many investigations are summarily closed after initial interviews. some go forward for a more in depth investigation - and sometimes a child might be removed at this point. if things are still in the interview stage, and you are a family member or friend who CAN take the child, NOW would be the time to mention it.

    children are NOT routinely subjected to mental health evaluations unless the situation or the child's behaviour warrent it.

    hope this helps.
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    ^^That does help allay some of my questions.

    While I will not divulge the original reason of the investigation, I will shed a wee bit more light.

    The night the authorities got involved, the primary minor in question was over at a friends house. Sent a sibling over to bring her home, but she refused. I go to fetch her, and she first fakes sleep. Then has to talk to someone. I told her she can talk another time. Then she needed to get something. I said her friend could give it to her at school the following day. Then she can't remember what that something was... the adults in the dwelling made no attempt to aid me in my efforts to take the child home. At this point, I'm thinking about calling the cops myself, as the child in question has had issues in the past- and I wasn't too sure that people in that house were on the up and up, if ya know what I mean.

    About this time the LEO's show up and inform me that I should get the other primary and head down to the local PD. Bewildered, I do as I'm told. We sit in the reception area for roughly 20 minutes before finding out the reason why we are there. Statements were made by both parties, and the LEO assigned to the case and the on-call Social Worker concurred that the child was in no immediate or serious danger. Upon the reunification prior to leaving, one viewed the other with confusion and concern; the other with slow simmering rage.
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    Savvy readers will have probably surmised that I've posted about the minor before, and a little deductive reasoning should've led to the assumption the other is the mother of the child. Basically, the mom and I had to sign a 'alternative punishment' agreement (corporal punishment is verboten) for the duration of the investigation. And the child knows it.

    What is truly is scary is what happened earlier today (or later yesterday at this point). The girl in question hit her 6 year old brother in the head with a folded up pocket knife. She was more pissed that she got in trouble (and showed no remorse), than her brother not getting in trouble for taking something that was given to her.
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    Sonds like some counseling is in her future, and this may well be a good thing to have happen over the long haul, no1mad. It gave the daughter the sense that there are consequences for her actions, hopefully, and as to the part about being more pissed about being caught rather than being remorseful? Well, that's kind of a teenaged thinking pattern. Teens tend to have adult decisions with childlike thinking processes driving them, and they don't really consider consequences until they get caught and then they're mad about getting caught before anything else.
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    What Tom said, PLUS: if you think SHE is a danger to the rest of your family, you can have her removed from the home - again, depending on where you live - to a group home for problem kids or to a foster home which specializes in kids with some behavior problems. Speak with the CPS folks about counseling for her - recommendations from the court if you can't afford it - before her thought process gets her in deeper trouble.... had she bopped someone else's 6 yeat old, she'd be at juvie hall right now! Sometimes dragging a teen through court wakes them out of their "center of the universe" teenage world.

    Good luck, though. I hope things work out for her and the rest of your family.
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    I hate to say it, but she sounds like a sociopath.

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    Sometimes dragging a teen through court wakes them out of their "center of the universe" teenage world.
    Actually, this did work for my nephew. He saw his free-spirit best pal's parents surrender custody, while he got to go home, since it was his first offense. He cleaned up his act fast, but then he was a smart kid to start with, and was just having what he thought was fun.
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    I'm not a social worker, but I do know a bunch of them and they all are trying to do more with less with the economic changes we've all been dealing with. So don't be surprised if everything takes longer and is more difficult than you think it should be.

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