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    Vet Rx B.S. ?

    I want to save some $ by getting a year's worth of the large dog size...using 6 full tabs for my big dog (70lbs), and cut the others in half for my pup (30lbs).

    My vet said that the drug companies say the tablets (heartworm meds in this case) shouldn't be cut in half because you don't know which side the actual medication is on. WTF! Drugstores sell pill splitters to humans every day. Is this just typical pharmaceutical company greed talking? Or their legal advisors talking?

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    Sounds really fishy to me. Try Snopes?
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    If it's one of those meds where one side of the pill is say, blue, and the other end is white, that probably matters. For ones with a uniform coloring (most of them), I think that's BS.

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    Why don't you just get the vet to mix you up some ivermectin diluted with glycerin and be done with the heartworm pills altogether? Any vet worth seeing will do that for you, will prescribe you the right dosage for your dog based on his weight and get you a calibrated syringe so you can get the dog his monthly heartworm meds in the right amount. If your vet balks, find another vet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
    Sounds really fishy to me. Try Snopes?
    Couldn't find anything on snopes, though a nice thought. WebMD does mention tips on examples of pills that are ok to split or not. Timed release, specific dosage (e.g. birth control), or coated, for example, are not. Heartgard doesn't fall under any of those categories.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terrierman View Post
    Why don't you just get the vet to mix you up some ivermectin diluted with glycerin and be done with the heartworm pills altogether? Any vet worth seeing will do that for you, will prescribe you the right dosage for your dog based on his weight and get you a calibrated syringe so you can get the dog his monthly heartworm meds in the right amount. If your vet balks, find another vet.
    Um, I'd rather leave the syringe stuff to them and just go with pills but I will ask about this. Thanks for the thought.

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    Our vet gives us meds that we HAVE to split. I think it's BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    Our vet gives us meds that we HAVE to split. I think it's BS.
    Yeah, it seems difficult to believe that pills aren't homogeneous.

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    There is a number on the box that is called the NDC. If you get that number, I can tell you if it's BS or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skijor View Post
    Um, I'd rather leave the syringe stuff to them and just go with pills but I will ask about this. Thanks for the thought.
    Think calibrated tube that you suck the right amount of solution into before you squirt it on some bread or something else your dog will eat. It's still an oral med. I got a years supply for six dogs from my vet for something like $20. It's worth checking out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skijor View Post
    I want to save some $ by getting a year's worth of the large dog size...using 6 full tabs for my big dog (70lbs), and cut the others in half for my pup (30lbs).

    My vet said that the drug companies say the tablets (heartworm meds in this case) shouldn't be cut in half because you don't know which side the actual medication is on. WTF! Drugstores sell pill splitters to humans every day. Is this just typical pharmaceutical company greed talking? Or their legal advisors talking?
    They are probably only allowed to sell it that way.

    You might want to buy a bit "extra" for your 70 lb dog. On the other hand, you might not want that type of medication for your pup anyway as he would be at low risk given if you keep him inside more (particularly since most of WI is not particularly high risk). If you find yourself with more medication than expected for your 70 lb dog, I leave it up to you to decide what to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjab View Post
    There is a number on the box that is called the NDC. If you get that number, I can tell you if it's BS or not.
    I won't have the box till next week. But the active ingredients are:
    Ivermectin 136 mcg
    and
    Pyrantel Pamoate 114 mg

    There are three listings for the former.
    52888-8107
    00006-0032
    52888-0032
    Nothing comes up for the latter on the FDA's NDC directory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrierman View Post
    Think calibrated tube that you suck the right amount of solution into before you squirt it on some bread or something else your dog will eat. It's still an oral med. I got a years supply for six dogs from my vet for something like $20. It's worth checking out.
    Oh ok. That kind of syringe I could do. Wow, that's cheap. Not that money is the biggest concern of course. I just want to take care of the pooches and spend wisely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skijor View Post
    I want to save some $ by getting a year's worth of the large dog size...using 6 full tabs for my big dog (70lbs), and cut the others in half for my pup (30lbs).

    My vet said that the drug companies say the tablets (heartworm meds in this case) shouldn't be cut in half because you don't know which side the actual medication is on. WTF! Drugstores sell pill splitters to humans every day. Is this just typical pharmaceutical company greed talking? Or their legal advisors talking?
    grind up the pill and feed half of the powder to the small dog?
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    Yup, I thought of that ^ too. I'd use the digital kitchen scale I use for weighing my coffee beans for roasting.

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