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    Is this rolex real?

    perpetual motion, my butt.
    I took that picture today.

    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
    http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm

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    botto would be the one to ask. He collects watches.
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    Well, it is a real object.


    Is it really a rolex? dunno.

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    not really an expert on rolexes.

    that said, i'd need to see better pictures than the ones posted.

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    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
    http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm

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    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
    http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm

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    send it to me. i'll pm you my address.

    let's see if he is as stupid as he looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coasting View Post
    send it to me. i'll pm you my address.

    let's see if he is as stupid as he looks.
    I'm pretty sure it's fake, from what I've been able to pull up.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Open the watch and post pictures of the movement.

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    Does the second hand sweep smoothly or tick off each second? A quartz movement ticks, a real Rolex Perpetual movement will sweep smoothly, or at least it was this way back in the day when dad would bring me fake Rolexs on trips to Taiwan.
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    between smooth and ticking, this looks like it ticks.
    but the ticks are still pretty smooth compared to what I've seen on other quartz watches.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulkal View Post
    Open the watch and post pictures of the movement.
    That can't be a deciding factor anymore as the replica will also have a smoothly sweeping second-hand with about 5-ticks per second. The quality replicas have exactly the same movement (more technically correct: chablon). Replicas can even be serviced with Rolex tools and use genuine Rolex replacement parts. That's due to the replica watch using the exact same wholesale movement supplier as the major manufacturers.

    The chablon is typically purchased from one of the numerous suppliers: ETA, FEF, Landeron, Peseux, Unitas, Valjoux, Venus, etc. Many of these suppliers have united under a common manufacturing group and your Rolex, Patek, Breitling, Tissot, etc. can contain movements from any of these suppliers. The movement itself is like 1-5% of the value of a watch. The watch manufacturers add value in putting that movement into an attractive case that looks a certain way to appeal to people.


    That particular watch looks pretty beat up and the band is worn out, usually signs of a fake. One definitive test is to remove the band and inspect the etched case-reference# and serial# between the lugs. Then look it up in the Rolex registry. In this case, you don't even have to go that far because the way the band attaches underneath the case shows it a fake (not even a replica). Easily seen in the photo posted:

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    FYI-
    it needs to be worn every day for the perpetual motion to work. otherwise you will be resetting when you want to wear it.

    i have a fake rolex with smooth movement, that's not the only way to tell anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
    That can't be a deciding factor anymore as the replica will also have a smoothly sweeping second-hand with about 5-ticks per second.
    That's about what my Omega does. On the one hand it is >40 yrs old and maybe that's what sweeping was back then, but on the other hand it was a gift from one ship captain to another (notorious 'dealhunters'/suckers)

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    I found an "often copied brand pen" between the seats in an airplane recently and found a HUGE amount of information in EBAY about it. They have allot of resources to help determine if things like these are real or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
    That can't be a deciding factor anymore as the replica will also have a smoothly sweeping second-hand with about 5-ticks per second. The quality replicas have exactly the same movement (more technically correct: chablon). Replicas can even be serviced with Rolex tools and use genuine Rolex replacement parts. That's due to the replica watch using the exact same wholesale movement supplier as the major manufacturers.

    The chablon is typically purchased from one of the numerous suppliers: ETA, FEF, Landeron, Peseux, Unitas, Valjoux, Venus, etc. Many of these suppliers have united under a common manufacturing group and your Rolex, Patek, Breitling, Tissot, etc. can contain movements from any of these suppliers. The movement itself is like 1-5% of the value of a watch. The watch manufacturers add value in putting that movement into an attractive case that looks a certain way to appeal to people.


    That particular watch looks pretty beat up and the band is worn out, usually signs of a fake. One definitive test is to remove the band and inspect the etched case-reference# and serial# between the lugs. Then look it up in the Rolex registry. In this case, you don't even have to go that far because the way the band attaches underneath the case shows it a fake (not even a replica). Easily seen in the photo posted:

    ah, excellent info.
    I did take a peak into the wrist band area and sure enough there's nothing there.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
    http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by mustachiod View Post
    FYI-
    it needs to be worn every day for the perpetual motion to work. otherwise you will be resetting when you want to wear it.

    i have a fake rolex with smooth movement, that's not the only way to tell anymore.
    but I hate wearing watches, or any jewelry for that matter.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    but I hate wearing watches, or any jewelry for that matter.
    yeah, me to, I get all this jewelry (90% of it silver) and never....ever! wear it, watches too, I really like watches but rarely wear any of them.
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    Fake. The backs of real Rolex's are engraved and I believe serialized. Even my $30 Timex has an engraved back, so a watch with a smooth back with no manufacturers markings is most probably a cheap knock off.

    Even the good counterfeit have engraved backs now a days, so it is definitely hard to tell. If it won't keep time or winds down after a couple of hours assume it is a fake. Good Swiss watches should run about 36 hours on a fully wound spring. A quick test would be to drop it in water. Oyster Perpetual are water proof.

    If you are buying it in a middle eastern market for $100 it's fake.

    If you have to ask, it's probably fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
    That can't be a deciding factor anymore as the replica will also have a smoothly sweeping second-hand with about 5-ticks per second. The quality replicas have exactly the same movement (more technically correct: chablon). Replicas can even be serviced with Rolex tools and use genuine Rolex replacement parts. That's due to the replica watch using the exact same wholesale movement supplier as the major manufacturers.

    The chablon is typically purchased from one of the numerous suppliers: ETA, FEF, Landeron, Peseux, Unitas, Valjoux, Venus, etc. Many of these suppliers have united under a common manufacturing group and your Rolex, Patek, Breitling, Tissot, etc. can contain movements from any of these suppliers. The movement itself is like 1-5% of the value of a watch. The watch manufacturers add value in putting that movement into an attractive case that looks a certain way to appeal to people.
    Rolex is one of the few watch companies that makes their own movements. If it has an ETA movement, it is fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trustnoone View Post
    Fake. The backs of real Rolex's are engraved and I believe serialized. Even my $30 Timex has an engraved back, so a watch with a smooth back with no manufacturers markings is most probably a cheap knock off.

    Even the good counterfeit have engraved backs now a days, so it is definitely hard to tell. If it won't keep time or winds down after a couple of hours assume it is a fake. Good Swiss watches should run about 36 hours on a fully wound spring. A quick test would be to drop it in water. Oyster Perpetual are water proof.

    If you are buying it in a middle eastern market for $100 it's fake.

    If you have to ask, it's probably fake.
    incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    incorrect.
    Botto is correct. Rolex case backs are not engraved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trustnoone View Post
    Fake. The backs of real Rolex's are engraved and I believe serialized
    Except for a few rare ladies models, the backs of Rolexes are never engraved with anything. The serial# is on the case between the lugs at 6 o'clock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
    Except for a few rare ladies models, the backs of Rolexes are never engraved with anything. The serial# is on the case between the lugs at 6 o'clock.
    I stand corrected. I quick google shows there are more rolex's not engraved than those that are.

    http://www.watches.co.uk/watch_pics/...400GV-back.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
    Except for a few rare ladies models, the backs of Rolexes are never engraved with anything. The serial# is on the case between the lugs at 6 o'clock.
    also incorrect. my sea dweller is in fact engraved.

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