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Old 07-14-10, 09:27 AM   #1
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Rant Control.

I like rants. They are FUN to read. I know some people get upset at rants and try to censor the ranter or make him/her look foolish. NoT me ! I LOVE a good rant. I like to WRITE rants too, when I have a peeve. Most of the posts here are by pinheads who can't figure out what kind of commuter bike to buy. HINT : Go to your LBS and RIDE a few!!! Geeze why come here and bore everyone with 40 replies to your question which has been answered a THOUSAND times in hundreds of posts? All in excruciating detail, and to no purpose because anybody who buys a bike based on advice from a message board is pissin' in the wind anyway. "But you can get some good ideas from more experienced bikers." BULL PUCK! Read the old posts. There's only 43 MILLION of 'em!!! Same goes for tires, forks , seats , tubes, lights ECT ECT ECT! If you have an unusual or particular problem, this is the perfect place to ask. It might even be INTERESTING! But you can't tell me that there are 70 or 80 people here who can figure out why you get a flat every 30 feet. GO to a professional! Or avoid the road past the nail factory. We need a Rant Forum. We also need something we will never get: A PSA during the Superbowl that tells Auto Drivers they don't own the road and by law must regard bicycles as VEHICLES, and tells bicyclists to ride on the RIGHT (and correct) side of the road!!! Rant concluded. Been rant free for 90 days.

Maybe I should stop eating those Swanson Angryman Dinners. Your pal, "Rants" Headstrong.

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Old 07-14-10, 09:39 AM   #2
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(pats fredgarvin7 on the head...) there there now.
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Old 07-14-10, 09:40 AM   #3
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"My name is Colleen. This is my first participant of an Anger Management Support Group. I like to ride my bike to cure Rant when I leave work at the Post Office."
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I've read better rants.

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On a related note, has the search function been fixed?
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Old 07-14-10, 10:35 AM   #7
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I've read better rants.

I 've WRITTEN better rants. So THERE!
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Old 07-14-10, 10:40 AM   #8
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I 've WRITTEN better rants. So THERE!
Yeah, but which one is THE BEST rant??




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There's only 43 MILLION of 'em!!! Same goes for tires, forks , seats , tubes, lights ECT ECT ECT!
What's an ECT?
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pinheads who can't figure out what kind of commuter bike to buy. HINT : Go to your LBS and RIDE a few!!!
That advice sends me into a rant. Whenever I test drive a brand new machine, whether it be a car, motorcycle or even a lowly bicycle, it feels GREAT. You get out/off of your old piece of crap and get in/on a brand new machine, it feels great and you buy it. So why bother to test drive? It's going to feel great and you're going to buy it. If you test drive five bicycles, they will all feel great. Maybe the one that is actually your size feels best so you buy it. After a week of riding it you discover all of its faults and wonder if that other one would have been better... if only the LBS had the test model in your size. IMHO test riding is a waste of time.

So MY advice when people ask "what bike should I buy" is: Bike shops sell bikes at all price points, and you pretty much get what you pay for. So figure out your budget, subtract $500 from that because the add-ons (like pedals, fenders, panniers, shoes, taxes, etc) will always add back at least that much. Then tell your LBS your budget is X (- 500) and tell them how you intend to use the bike: e.g. offroad, racing, weekend riding, commuting, beach cruising, etc, and buy whatever they recommend. Odds are you will love it because it is a new bike. Eventually you will discover its weaknesses but end up overcoming most of them with replacement parts or upgrades. Then, after enough time goes by, you will be wanting a new bike. Either that or the law of N + 1 will strike and you'll want ANOTHER new bike. But in the end, you will never know if the bike you bought was the right one, unless you can buy them all and ride each one for several weeks.

I tell people it is more important to pick the right bike shop than the bike. A good bike shop will sell you the right bike based on your budget and your requirements.

Now, this rant does not apply to professional cyclists. I do believe any current rider in the Tour De France could ride a bike for five minutes and tell you exactly what it's strengths and weaknesses are, and easily make up their mind what bike to buy based on a short test ride. But unless you are that level, forget it. It will just feel great so buy it.
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Meh... the most important part of that decision is the frame colour.
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Old 07-14-10, 11:06 AM   #12
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Wow. Feel better?
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.... So figure out your budget, subtract $500 from that because the add-ons (like pedals, fenders, panniers, shoes, taxes, etc) will always add back at least that much. Then tell your LBS your budget is X (- 500) and tell them how you intend to use the bike....
Funny, so my budget was -$150 when I bought my bike last winter for $350..., surprised I got a bike at all...
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I like rants. They are FUN to read. I know some people get upset at rants and try to censor the ranter or make him/her look foolish. NoT me ! I LOVE a good rant. I like to WRITE rants too, when I have a peeve. Most of the posts here are by pinheads who can't figure out what kind of commuter bike to buy. HINT : Go to your LBS and RIDE a few!!! Geeze why come here and bore everyone with 40 replies to your question which has been answered a THOUSAND times in hundreds of posts? All in excruciating detail, and to no purpose because anybody who buys a bike based on advice from a message board is pissin' in the wind anyway. "But you can get some good ideas from more experienced bikers." BULL PUCK! Read the old posts. There's only 43 MILLION of 'em!!! Same goes for tires, forks , seats , tubes, lights ECT ECT ECT! If you have an unusual or particular problem, this is the perfect place to ask. It might even be INTERESTING! But you can't tell me that there are 70 or 80 people here who can figure out why you get a flat every 30 feet. GO to a professional! Or avoid the road past the nail factory. We need a Rant Forum. We also need something we will never get: A PSA during the Superbowl that tells Auto Drivers they don't own the road and by law must regard bicycles as VEHICLES, and tells bicyclists to ride on the RIGHT (and correct) side of the road!!! Rant concluded. Been rant free for 90 days.

Maybe I should stop eating those Swanson Angryman Dinners. Your pal, "Rants" Headstrong.
Hmm... I can see that. What is your opinion about paragraphs?
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Funny, so my budget was -$150 when I bought my bike last winter for $350..., surprised I got a bike at all...
Was it brand new, and from a bike shop? $350 is either brand new at Wal-Mart - well, OK, probably Target - or it was a good used bike from Craig's list?
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Old 07-14-10, 11:33 AM   #17
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Was it brand new, and from a bike shop? $350 is either brand new at Wal-Mart - well, OK, probably Target - or it was a good used bike from Craig's list?
I've watched $350 get last year's model Giant brand hybrid/mtb new and in good working order from a LBS, with a helmet, water bottle, patch kit, and spare tube. It might not be fast and shiny, and it might have cost less than my front wheel, but it got them between their apartment, campus, and the grocery store on a daily basis reliably for several years. They never got stolen, and they didn't break when some ape slammed a bike in to the rack next to theirs.
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Old 07-14-10, 11:35 AM   #18
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Was it brand new, and from a bike shop? $350 is either brand new at Wal-Mart - well, OK, probably Target - or it was a good used bike from Craig's list?
Nope, brand spanking new and not from Target/Walmart.
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Do tantrums count? I think I just threw a tantrum when the 2nd $%@#$% lunchsized applesauce container lid failed again and I ended up getting a paper cut from the darn foil.
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Did you then hum the offending applesauce container at the window, creating a gooey mess for everyone to enjoy?
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No - I triumphed over that applesauce container - by stabbing it with my scissors and removing the offending lid that way.
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You rant like James Joyce, apparently.
Well lucky for you I didn't write in hexameter verse like Homer. That would be an EPIC rant. Pull literature on ME willya? Ya lousy stream of unconciousness punk , ya!
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"What's ECT?"


That's ETC for the lisdexic.
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"What's ECT?"
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