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Old 07-17-10, 09:55 PM   #1
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Long Island summers

I've been here since the middle of May. For the past few weeks it has been 90+ degrees every day and humid to boot. I don't much enjoy this. I was also considering moving here after I graduate college, but may reconsider if this climate is normal. Are most summers here this hot?
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If you like comfortable summers, you need to go north. Montreal has lovely summer weather.

I'd offer other opinions on Long Island, but I know I'm biased from having lived on an island for 2.5 years, and would feel trapped there, and intimidated at the prospect of having to battle through NYC to reach freedom.
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Pssshhhh. 90 is nothing. I roll 114 least once a week.
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yes, almost always hot... and worse, muggy.

Long Island is very beautiful in spots, though. You've water nearby at all times...trouble is traffic and pop. density is so insane there now, good luck getting to any of that without stressing out in the car first. It was a nice if boring place to grow up a few decades ago. Now it seems not worth the trouble.

Having ridden through super hot triple digit weather a few weeks ago, followed by low 90s with lots of humidity, I will absolutely take the hotter/dryer climes every time. Bring it on.
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Consider I grew up in New Hampshire; I'm tougher than all of the people I've met when it comes to cold, but I'm a whining baby when it comes to heat. The first thing that struck me here are was the traffic -- there's so much of it. Sometimes it takes me 30 minutes to get to work and sometimes it takes me 50. It's stop and go almost everywhere I go and I still have a stickshift. I'd buy an automatic if I lived here for awhile. It's a nightmare to get to the beaches. This all leads me to my next point: the people. Maybe it's the heat and traffic at play here, but there's a high density of unpleasant -- or at least not very "warm" -- people. I see it at work, in the store, and where I live.
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and would feel trapped there, and intimidated at the prospect of having to battle through NYC to reach freedom.
That explains why, unless they were willing to fly, people at work take vacations in just one place: The Hamptons.
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Consider I grew up in New Hampshire; I'm tougher than all of the people I've met when it comes to cold, but I'm a whining baby when it comes to heat. The first thing that struck me here are was the traffic -- there's so much of it. Sometimes it takes me 30 minutes to get to work and sometimes it takes me 50. It's stop and go almost everywhere I go and I still have a stickshift. I'd buy an automatic if I lived here for awhile. It's a nightmare to get to the beaches. This all leads me to my next point: the people. Maybe it's the heat and traffic at play here, but there's a high density of unpleasant -- or at least not very "warm" -- people. I see it at work, in the store, and where I live.
It wasn't always that way, at least not in Suffolk County. In the 80s Suffolk was still pretty sleepy; it was always stressful driving into Nassau, it started approaching traffic density you'd see in the outer boroughs of NYC.

In the last five-ten years or so we'd go out to Suffolk and it's like that now all along the island...very sad. And yes, as there have been more and more houses/businesses/people, it's hard to get anywhere, even in the sleepiest little towns...and people's tempers have shortened accordingly. I couldn't believe how nasty the drivers were out there the last few times I drove in Suffolk.

We almost bought my mom's house in 2003 but passed - thank goodness. We'd never be able to afford a house there now but in retrospect, I am kinda glad.
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Living in Nassau, I find it a relief that my workplace is in Suffolk. What perplexes me is people who make every effort to get one car ahead, in the middle of rush hour, when there's a stoplight 500 yards ahead. I find this to be the worst in Garden City. Huntington is a nice place though.
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Yeah, I guess people just get so frustrated they need to scratch and claw ahead every mm they can.

Huntington was always a favorite or ours - the first outpost of culture if you lived in central suffolk; we'd go there for shopping, good food, foreign films, live music, etc. I miss that town.
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go to the beach, silly!
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It wasn't always that way, at least not in Suffolk County. In the 80s Suffolk was still pretty sleepy; it was always stressful driving into Nassau, it started approaching traffic density you'd see in the outer boroughs of NYC.

In the last five-ten years or so we'd go out to Suffolk and it's like that now all along the island...very sad. And yes, as there have been more and more houses/businesses/people, it's hard to get anywhere, even in the sleepiest little towns...and people's tempers have shortened accordingly. I couldn't believe how nasty the drivers were out there the last few times I drove in Suffolk.

We almost bought my mom's house in 2003 but passed - thank goodness. We'd never be able to afford a house there now but in retrospect, I am kinda glad.
I grew up and spent 26 or more years of my life in Suffolk. Growing up the place was great - open spaces and friendly people. I remember driving out to Mattituck to visit my Grandparents and taking 25 all the way out to the "Sticks". lol

I went back there as few months ago with my bicycle, and couldn't believe the place. Rude drivers, crappy roads, traffic at all hours, humid weather, etc. After living, and being spoiled, here in western Colorado, I'd have a hard time moving back there.

We do occasionally consider it as we have write a bit of family there, as well as being closer to major airports to get to Italy and Florida would be nice.

New Hampshire is also nice, as we looked there, but wrote it off due to the long winters.
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part of the problem is the geography - it's just a long narrow sliver of land. To go anywhere east/west you're limited to two or three main highways and they do get clogged up.

About 7-8 years ago I was going out east to my mom's house every weekend to help her clean it up for sale and I knew it would be bumper to bumper if I left during rush hour (people going home to LI in droves from the city). I remember in years before that being able to wait till 7pm or so and leaving the city and not hitting much traffic. Now I was leaving at 8 or 9 PM and still getting stuck. Finally I started eating dinner and waiting till 10-11 PM before leaving...it was a bit better but I'd still get stuck in a traffic jam at some point(s) along the way - this is at midnight, in Suffolk county on the LIE. Craziness...

I hit lots of traffic jams at odd times in the last ten years out there and figured it was due to an accident or road work or some other atypical occurrence, but couldn't see anything...my friends out there said 'nope, it's always like that out here now.' One of our last friends from Suffolk who recently moved to NC said they rarely left their home (North Shore) because no matter when/where they drove somewhere they hit horrible traffic. That sucks...
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I live out on the east end. To be frank, I find very few redeemable qualities to anything west of riverhead on the island. Sure, there are some nice spots along some coasts, but there are way too many people and crazy drivers.

Even the east end is getting a bit too crazy for me at this point.
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part of the problem is the geography - it's just a long narrow sliver of land. To go anywhere east/west you're limited to two or three main highways and they do get clogged up.

About 7-8 years ago I was going out east to my mom's house every weekend to help her clean it up for sale and I knew it would be bumper to bumper if I left during rush hour (people going home to LI in droves from the city). I remember in years before that being able to wait till 7pm or so and leaving the city and not hitting much traffic. Now I was leaving at 8 or 9 PM and still getting stuck. Finally I started eating dinner and waiting till 10-11 PM before leaving...it was a bit better but I'd still get stuck in a traffic jam at some point(s) along the way - this is at midnight, in Suffolk county on the LIE. Craziness...

I hit lots of traffic jams at odd times in the last ten years out there and figured it was due to an accident or road work or some other atypical occurrence, but couldn't see anything...my friends out there said 'nope, it's always like that out here now.' One of our last friends from Suffolk who recently moved to NC said they rarely left their home (North Shore) because no matter when/where they drove somewhere they hit horrible traffic. That sucks...
I hear you. I used to work in NYC, and would take toe motorcycle to save time. I felt as if I was putting my life at risk each time I was on that thing, in an attempt to keep my commute to less than 1.5 hours.

I lived in St. James, and the traffic around there is just out of control. My last trip there, in April/May when I brought my bike, I often wondered if people actually worked as the mall was always packed, and the roads ( Main St. in Smithtown, 347, 25A ) we're always backed up.

It got to a point on my stay there where I would ride the bicycle in the early am, never leaving St. James/Nissequogue, and then retreating to my mothers house till after 8pm when the traffic subsided.

It's funny, as the wife and I sometimes kick around the idea of moving back there, as pretty much all her family is there, and it would be easier for me to fly and see my dad in FL. Heck, my parents would even give me a house on 3 acres that's paid for, and I always seem to come to the conclusion that we'd be making the wrong decision.

Colorado is great, but growing up there certainly influenced me somewhat. I'll always have a place in my heart for the LI that I knew, and will often wonder "What if" ( we moved back there ) if staying here in CO or moving back to NY is best.
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Why's this in foo and not the NE regional? Anyways, LI is nuts. Move to NYC. We're much nicer in comparison. There's definitely some nice towns in LI, but getting from one to the other can be a headache.
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Why's this in foo and not the NE regional? Anyways, LI is nuts. Move to NYC. We're much nicer in comparison. There's definitely some nice towns in LI, but getting from one to the other can be a headache.
The city ?!?! Are you kidding me. You couldn't give me enough money, or penthouse apartment, to live there.

I left all that crap for small town living in Colorado - 2,000 people and one stop light.
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The city ?!?! Are you kidding me. You couldn't give me enough money, or penthouse apartment, to live there.

I left all that crap for small town living in Colorado - 2,000 people and one stop light.
Who's talkin' ta you?!?
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I've been here since the middle of May. For the past few weeks it has been 90+ degrees every day and humid to boot. I don't much enjoy this. I was also considering moving here after I graduate college, but may reconsider if this climate is normal. Are most summers here this hot?
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It was only 101 with 80% humidity yesterday here. (however, I think that NYC in the summer is the worst place on earth. It felt a lot hotter than OK)
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So, since no one else has asked yet... it's legal for women to be topless in public in New York, but is it "socially acceptable" on Long Island during the summer?
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The city ?!?! Are you kidding me. You couldn't give me enough money, or penthouse apartment, to live there.

I left all that crap for small town living in Colorado - 2,000 people and one stop light.
Johnny Smith - is that you?

I wouldn't mind the free NYC penthouse; you could throw a wild party or two, then flip it and buy up half of CO.
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I hear you. I used to work in NYC, and would take toe motorcycle to save time. I felt as if I was putting my life at risk each time I was on that thing, in an attempt to keep my commute to less than 1.5 hours.

I lived in St. James, and the traffic around there is just out of control. My last trip there, in April/May when I brought my bike, I often wondered if people actually worked as the mall was always packed, and the roads ( Main St. in Smithtown, 347, 25A ) we're always backed up.

It got to a point on my stay there where I would ride the bicycle in the early am, never leaving St. James/Nissequogue, and then retreating to my mothers house till after 8pm when the traffic subsided.

It's funny, as the wife and I sometimes kick around the idea of moving back there, as pretty much all her family is there, and it would be easier for me to fly and see my dad in FL. Heck, my parents would even give me a house on 3 acres that's paid for, and I always seem to come to the conclusion that we'd be making the wrong decision.

Colorado is great, but growing up there certainly influenced me somewhat. I'll always have a place in my heart for the LI that I knew, and will often wonder "What if" ( we moved back there ) if staying here in CO or moving back to NY is best.
MC + LI = "hey, check out my scars/stitches/titanium hip"

I liked riding my MC along 25A when I commuted from Centereach to Brookville, or one of the country routes like 58 or Truck 25 along the north fork, but that was years ago - I'd be too chicken now.

St. James is a nice town; it seemed most people either loved the North Shore or the South Shore...I lived in the middle (i.e., armpit) and liked both but def. was a NS person.
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