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Old 07-22-10, 02:09 PM   #1
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Mechanic Advice - Axle Replacement

I already posted on some automotive forums but Foo resourcefulness is sometimes surprising so here it is:

This is on a Hyundai Accent 2000, automatic transmission.

While replacing the driver's side front axle, a piece of what looks like a transmission seal, broke. Here's a picture:



You can see the whole where the axle goes, and this conical thing that is attached to the transmission. It had 5 bolts (I already took them out). But I have no idea if I can just jank it it out and replace it.

I went to the dealership with the photo, they say the part is not sold separately. Is part of an overhauling kit, part number "4501025A01", description "SEAL KIT-ATA OVERHAUL".

Therefore, my 2 questions:

1) Any idea where to get the part, or the kit, cheap?

2) How can I replace this?

Thanks in advance...

PS: Please not that this time I haven't set the car on fire
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I already posted on some automotive forums but Foo resourcefulness is sometimes surprising so here it is:

This is on a Hyundai Accent 2000, automatic transmission.

While replacing the driver's side front axle, a piece of what looks like a transmission seal, broke. Here's a picture:



You can see the whole where the axle goes, and this conical thing that is attached to the transmission. It had 5 bolts (I already took them out). But I have no idea if I can just jank it it out and replace it.

I went to the dealership with the photo, they say the part is not sold separately. Is part of an overhauling kit, part number "4501025A01", description "SEAL KIT-ATA OVERHAUL".

Therefore, my 2 questions:

1) Any idea where to get the part, or the kit, cheap?

2) How can I replace this?

Thanks in advance...

PS: Please not that this time I haven't set the car on fire

Well, seeing how it is transmission related, I would imagine that it is not cheap or easy.
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While replacing the driver's side front axle, a piece of what looks like a transmission seal, broke. Here's a picture:


You can see the whole where the axle goes, and this conical thing that is attached to the transmission. It had 5 bolts (I already took them out). But I have no idea if I can just jank it it out and replace it.


Therefore, my 2 questions:

1) Any idea where to get the part, or the kit, cheap?

2) How can I replace this?

Thanks in advance...

PS: Please not that this time I haven't set the car on fire
Guns&Roses tried to replace axle once and it didn't work well. (sorry this is foo)
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Old 07-22-10, 02:37 PM   #5
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1) Disclaimer: I don't know the specifics of your car, nor have I ever worked on a Hyundai transmission, nor for that matter am I a professional mechanic.
2) Generally speaking, pulling half shafts/cv joints tends to drain the fluid inside the transmission/differential case, so I wouldn't be terribly worried about that, unless you've actually broken something.
3) If you're talking about the black rubber thing in the center, that may be cause for concern. Sometimes you can pull those out from the outside with pliers and press a new one in with a large socket or black of wood. If you decide to go this route, make sure you have the new part in your hand first 1) to make sure it is the right thing and 2) by looking at it you should be able to see how the old one will come out.
4) I just saw the white thing by the lower right of the picture (will you please circle the specific part you're talking about?). That looks like some sort of cheap paper gasket. 1) Someone (Autozone/Advance/Napa) may have it. If not, or if you're feeling lazy, just use some copper/red/black (just make sure it's oil safe) RTV (Permatex), clean the surfaces, and slather it on before bolting it up. Then, FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS and wait however many hours it says to before driving the car.
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Guns&Roses tried to replace axle once and it didn't work well. (sorry this is foo)
You should be slashed for that bad pun.
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You should be slashed for that bad pun.
Glad you Rose above attempting a bad pun SS
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You should be slashed for that bad pun.
I bet when you play golf, you call yourself a duffer.
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I saul what you did there RUOkie
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4) I just saw the white thing by the lower right of the picture (will you please circle the specific part you're talking about?). That looks like some sort of cheap paper gasket. 1) Someone (Autozone/Advance/Napa) may have it. If not, or if you're feeling lazy, just use some copper/red/black (just make sure it's oil safe) RTV (Permatex), clean the surfaces, and slather it on before bolting it up. Then, FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS and wait however many hours it says to before driving the car.
Yeah if it's that white thing that goes around to all the bolt holes that should be doable. But the picture is pretty information-free so it's hard to tell.
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It's hard to tell where the seal retainer is on that set up. If the aluminum part we can see is the seal retainer, you will have to install it from the inside of the trans (Which would explain why it comes as part of the trans seal rebuild kit).
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2000 Accent? You should just set it on fire (again) and ride your bike instead.
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Try www.rockauto.com
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I'll post pics of the broken part when I get home.... is not the black rubber thingy inside... that's fine. Is the silver thingy outside...
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Are you in a big city? If so then take that photo to the biggest automatic transmission repair shop in town and ask them. Your car has been out long enough that there should be parts available in junkyards and maybe from the aftermarket. You might even be able to RTV the old flange back in place with just 4 bolts and get by that way. There probably isn't any load on that piece, it likely just holds the seal. (The seal is the black donut in the middle.)
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You should get as much JBWeld as you can carry. Then glue jsharr, ROUkie and SingingSabre together where the broken part is. Then junk the car.
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2000 Accent? You should just set it on fire (again) and ride your bike instead.
He set the Taurus on fire when nailing the babe in the back room.
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Rube,where you been playa?I thought the everglades gobbled you up.

Any car I have owned I always purchase the Haynes manual for that car ($20 Autozone).This will give pretty simple instructions for replacing the transaxel.Usually the seals should be replaced but if it does not leak, forgettaboutit.The library will also have the manual for that clunker/beaver magnet.
The "extra car"is still available?
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Could just need generic seal from a place like Bearings inc.Dealer only parts are hosers.
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You should get as much JBWeld as you can carry. Then glue jsharr, ROUkie and SingingSabre together where the broken part is. Then junk the car.
This would work, except for the fact that I fall apart when subjected to any stress at all. Sorry!
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This would work, except for the fact that I fall apart when subjected to any stress at all. Sorry!
yes, he does. I would suggest filling him up with the jbweld and allowing it to cure properly first.
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Ruben, what sound did the car make before you took the parts off? *i love ruben's car sounds*
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^^^^

I hope it wasn't "Boom chicka' wow wow"
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BTW, MV always holds his JB Weld up to a mirror and then giggles.
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I hope it wasn't "Boom chicka' wow wow"
no...that's the sound that comes from my jeep. The axles haven't fallen off yet.
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