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    What's the most you've paid for an oil change + extras they found???

    So you bring your car into the shop for an oil change. They call you at work / home and tell you they've found a 'few' things they'd recommend replacing / repairing. What's the most you've ever ended up paying for repairs when you originally brought your car in for a simple oil change?

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    i'm my own mechanic, but some of the things i've talked myself into are comical...

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    OK, maybe I'm the only one who has experienced this. Today I dropped off my 2005 Toyota Matrix for an oil change (at the dealership). One hour after getting to work I got a call from the very friendly front desk person. She started out by commenting on the weather, then slowly moved into some "issues" they had found with my car. First it was a leaking water pump, then the clutch needs to be replaced (I actually saw that one coming), then my front and rear brake components need replacing, then my belt and tensioner need replacing, and finally all 4 tires need replacing (yes I knew that was imminent as well). In the end, what I thought would be a small service bill ended up at $3500 pre-tax, or closer to $4000 after tax. OUCH! I'm not the type to shop around for a different shop to give me a second quote ... mainly because I don't have the time ... so I authorized all the repairs.

    Am I the only one???

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    No, not the only one, but i have a few friends who turn wrenches and I usually go to them first. The oil change places try to find things to repair, that is their bread and butter. Know this because one of my wrench turning friends owns a lube place. He makes a NICE living. Nicer than me by a long shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    OK, maybe I'm the only one who has experienced this. Today I dropped off my 2005 Toyota Matrix for an oil change (at the dealership). One hour after getting to work I got a call from the very friendly front desk person. She started out by commenting on the weather, then slowly moved into some "issues" they had found with my car. First it was a leaking water pump, then the clutch needs to be replaced (I actually saw that one coming), then my front and rear brake components need replacing, then my belt and tensioner need replacing, and finally all 4 tires need replacing (yes I knew that was imminent as well). In the end, what I thought would be a small service bill ended up at $3500 pre-tax, or closer to $4000 after tax. OUCH! I'm not the type to shop around for a different shop to give me a second quote ... mainly because I don't have the time ... so I authorized all the repairs.

    Am I the only one???
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    Quote Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
    Dude I am selling Golden Gate bridge, great deal. Want to buy?
    sounds intriguing. How much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    No, not the only one, but i have a few friends who turn wrenches and I usually go to them first. The oil change places try to find things to repair, that is their bread and butter. Know this because one of my wrench turning friends owns a lube place. He makes a NICE living. Nicer than me by a long shot.
    I've never taken my vehicles to a Lube place. I've always brought my vehicles back to the dealership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    sounds intriguing. How much?
    Well CA is broke, everything must go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    I've never taken my vehicles to a Lube place. I've always brought my vehicles back to the dealership.
    They are not much better.
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    Unbelievable story. I don't trust mechanics, in fact, I hate them with all my guts. I sincerely believe that 90% of mechanics are out there to con you out of your hard earned dollars. This includes dealerships.

    If a repair shop quoted me $3500 for repairs, I will get not one, not two but at least three more quotes before even thinking about spending that kind of cash.

    For the most part, I do my own repairs. I am a self taught mechanic. So far I have done a complete brake job, changed brake lines, oil changes, transmission oil changes, oxygen sensor replacements, audio equipment replacements.

    Never trust mechanics unless you personally know them to be good people. Throwing parts at cars is their favorite job. Ask a mechanic to figure out if he can check your MAF sensor or your O2 sensor for malfunction using voltage input and outputs. Nine out of ten times, the mechanic will want to throw a new sensor in the car. Oh and they wont' bargain shop, they'll charge you for the parts at dealership rate which is usually a lot more expensive than if you bought it online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crypticlineage View Post
    Unbelievable story. I don't trust mechanics, in fact, I hate them with all my guts. I sincerely believe that 90% of mechanics are out there to con you out of your hard earned dollars. This includes dealerships.
    I've only gone to a mechanic 4 times in more than 25 years of driving. The first time was about 10 years ago to do a timing belt and water pump because I didn't feel like screwing with it. 5 years ago because I had a leaky water pump and cracked outboard CV boot replaced on the same car at 165K miles. 3rd and 4th times were to do the 30K and 60K service on a car I bought in 2007 -- I decided I'm not broke anymore and am tired of this grease monkey crap.

    All service was done at the dealer. Service was excellent and chats with service manager in all cases led me to believe they knew what they were doing. It wasn't cheap, but I got good value for my money and will probably return (as the value of the car drops, it becomes more difficult to justify not doing the work myself). I still have a 1993 truck that has never been serviced by anyone but me -- any repair bill would exceed the value of the truck.

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    Thing is, changing the oil is indeed easy to do, but after you buy the oil and filter, the price of an oil change at Sears or wherever is just a few bucks more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson View Post
    Thing is, changing the oil is indeed easy to do, but after you buy the oil and filter, the price of an oil change at Sears or wherever is just a few bucks more.
    That's true. I figure it depends on how much value you put on your time and whether you get any personal enjoyment out of it. A lot of us who do it ourselves take it as a matter of pride. Plus it makes you keep a closer eye on the car yourself so you have a better idea if something's going on. I always check for leaks and take a peak at the CV boots. It's probably time to check the brakes on mine, too.

    Also, I use full synthetic in my car, and most lube places charge a definite premium beyond cost for that, so instead of the labor adding $10-15 to the material cost, it ends being more like $30.

    I was going to do my own timing belt, but then I looked in my Hayes manual at how much crap you have to take off of a Civic in order just to get at the belt. That one's actual enough work I will pay for it, but all the minor maintenance I do myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
    That's true. I figure it depends on how much value you put on your time and whether you get any personal enjoyment out of it. A lot of us who do it ourselves take it as a matter of pride. Plus it makes you keep a closer eye on the car yourself so you have a better idea if something's going on. I always check for leaks and take a peak at the CV boots. It's probably time to check the brakes on mine, too.

    Also, I use full synthetic in my car, and most lube places charge a definite premium beyond cost for that, so instead of the labor adding $10-15 to the material cost, it ends being more like $30.

    I was going to do my own timing belt, but then I looked in my Hayes manual at how much crap you have to take off of a Civic in order just to get at the belt. That one's actual enough work I will pay for it, but all the minor maintenance I do myself.
    Yeah, the price for synthetic is insane.
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    $58 bucks over the $20 of the oil + filer change. The air filter was really bad and needed new wipers.

    I only go to a shop for an oil change if I really really don't have the time to do it myself, or if the filter in question is a PIA to replace due to odd location.

    My problem with oil changes at the shop is not the price. I regularly spend more doing it myself due to the cost of materials. But at least I know what I'm putting on the car. Not to mention I DO tighten all bolts back, to specification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    I've never taken my vehicles to a Lube place. I've always brought my vehicles back to the dealership.
    That's your problem right there. Dealerships charge far above the going rate for repairs and parts. Avoid them like the plague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crypticlineage View Post
    Unbelievable story. I don't trust mechanics, in fact, I hate them with all my guts. I sincerely believe that 90% of mechanics are out there to con you out of your hard earned dollars. This includes dealerships.

    If a repair shop quoted me $3500 for repairs, I will get not one, not two but at least three more quotes before even thinking about spending that kind of cash.

    For the most part, I do my own repairs. I am a self taught mechanic. So far I have done a complete brake job, changed brake lines, oil changes, transmission oil changes, oxygen sensor replacements, audio equipment replacements.

    Never trust mechanics unless you personally know them to be good people. Throwing parts at cars is their favorite job. Ask a mechanic to figure out if he can check your MAF sensor or your O2 sensor for malfunction using voltage input and outputs. Nine out of ten times, the mechanic will want to throw a new sensor in the car. Oh and they wont' bargain shop, they'll charge you for the parts at dealership rate which is usually a lot more expensive than if you bought it online.
    I don't have the same mistrust of all mechanics. Yes, there are undoubtedly some crooked ones out there, however I still believe most are fairly responsible and aren't there to screw you over. Perhaps my take on mechanics comes from growing up with my father who was a mechanic. I do believe however, that a larger percentage of mechanics these days are not as detailed in their trouble-shooting skills as past mechanics. Obviously this is in part due to the complexity of the equipment they have to trouble-shoot.

    I would admit that if I had time I probably would have gone for at least one other quote, however my spare time is VERY limited these days. So I say to myself "suck it up, buttercup" and pay the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
    I've only gone to a mechanic 4 times in more than 25 years of driving. The first time was about 10 years ago to do a timing belt and water pump because I didn't feel like screwing with it. 5 years ago because I had a leaky water pump and cracked outboard CV boot replaced on the same car at 165K miles. 3rd and 4th times were to do the 30K and 60K service on a car I bought in 2007 -- I decided I'm not broke anymore and am tired of this grease monkey crap.

    All service was done at the dealer. Service was excellent and chats with service manager in all cases led me to believe they knew what they were doing. It wasn't cheap, but I got good value for my money and will probably return (as the value of the car drops, it becomes more difficult to justify not doing the work myself). I still have a 1993 truck that has never been serviced by anyone but me -- any repair bill would exceed the value of the truck.
    Since my father had his own shop years ago, I did all of my own service work ... within my capabilities. I did that for many years when I was younger. Now that I have a few bucks, I figure I'll let others with way more skill due the repairs. I've only had one bad experience with a shop over the years. Needless to say I don't go there anymore ... and yes it was a dealership shop.

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    $4K...I'd say they saw you coming. I work with a really nice lady that kept getting ripped off by the BMW dealer, $2K-$4K every 10K miles.
    I finally convinced her to find a non-dealer mechanic to work on her car, she doesn't get taken like you did anymore. New brake parts
    are a dealer's favorite scam. I'm running the stock rear rotors on my Lexus with 140,000 miles. Stock calipers etc.
    All I've replaced in 140,000 miles is the front rotor (twice), new front pads (5x) and rear pads once.

    You bought a Toyota because it lasts, don't let the dealer rip you off like that again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
    A lot of us who do it ourselves take it as a matter of pride.
    Or laziness. I don't mind paying for someone else to do it -- it's just that it takes less time to do it myself than it takes to drive someplace to have it done (let alone wait to have it done). For me, it's a lot like filling your tires at a gas station rather than home. I use my bike pump for that, but it's still faster than driving 1/2 mile to the nearest station.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
    Plus it makes you keep a closer eye on the car yourself so you have a better idea if something's going on. I always check for leaks and take a peak at the CV boots. It's probably time to check the brakes on mine, too.
    This is a real benefit. You don't repair things except when they need it, and you notice things that need it. I inspect various areas of the car on a schedule so I know what's going on.

    The third benefit of doing it yourself is that you know exactly what corners you're cutting. I actually buy filters and oil plug gaskets at the dealer.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
    I was going to do my own timing belt, but then I looked in my Hayes manual at how much crap you have to take off of a Civic in order just to get at the belt. That one's actual enough work I will pay for it, but all the minor maintenance I do myself.
    Actually, removing the crap is pretty easy -- except the crankshaft pulley which can be a PITA if you don't have the right tools since there's no clearance and torque is so high. I plan on paying for this the next time I need it done.

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    Like $120, when I had an Audi.

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    you can try out the costco garage, if you have a costco membership. It's quite cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
    $58 bucks over the $20 of the oil + filer change. The air filter was really bad and needed new wipers.
    Your air filter needed new wipers? Did they at least top off the blinker fluid for free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
    Or laziness. I don't mind paying for someone else to do it -- it's just that it takes less time to do it myself than it takes to drive someplace to have it done (let alone wait to have it done). For me, it's a lot like filling your tires at a gas station rather than home. I use my bike pump for that, but it's still faster than driving 1/2 mile to the nearest station.
    +1 I have a really good mechanic that I trust, and he's quick, but just taking the car to him takes about as long as actually changing the oil, and the odds that he'll be able to get right on it are pretty slim. 20 minute trip to the local O'Reilly for oil, oil filter, air filter, and anything else I feel like swapping, 5 minutes under the car and 5 putting oil back in and I'm done.

    On my wife's Protege it's a bit trickier; if you crawl under the passenger side, the drain plug is right there handy. If you crawl under from the driver's side it's right there handy...except that this time it's the automatic transmission drain plug that looks exactly like the crankcase one. I'm thinking about stamping them "OIL" and "ATF."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    I would admit that if I had time I probably would have gone for at least one other quote, however my spare time is VERY limited these days. So I say to myself "suck it up, buttercup" and pay the bill.
    Stop wasting money on dealer repairs and you won't have to work so much.

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