Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 22 of 22
  1. #1
    Super Moderator no1mad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    NE OK
    My Bikes
    '06 Kona Smoke
    Posts
    7,281
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Girls basketball

    Anyone have/had their daughters playing b-ball for the school? My fourth grader is begging to try out, and I'm just wondering what kind of long term financial outlay this is going to turn into. It's gotta be cheaper than cheerleading, right?

  2. #2
    location:northern Ohio
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    3,566
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Had a daughter play through highschool.Only expense is off season teams(which all players do now)$500-1000 at the most plus shoes.
    My son in AAA hockey bankrupted me.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  3. #3
    location:northern Ohio
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    3,566
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by spry View Post
    Had a daughter play through highschool.Only expense is off season teams(which all players do now)$500-1000 at the most plus shoes.
    My son in AAA hockey bankrupted me.
    WTF would you have your daughter cheerlead if she has B-Ball talent?
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  4. #4
    Super Moderator no1mad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    NE OK
    My Bikes
    '06 Kona Smoke
    Posts
    7,281
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by spry View Post
    Had a daughter play through highschool.Only expense is off season teams(which all players do now)$500-1000 at the most plus shoes.
    My son in AAA hockey bankrupted me.
    You talking per year or career total?

  5. #5
    Super Moderator no1mad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    NE OK
    My Bikes
    '06 Kona Smoke
    Posts
    7,281
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by spry View Post
    WTF would you have your daughter cheerlead if she has B-Ball talent?
    Kind of my thinking as well. My girl has the bubbly personality, but I think she's just gonna be too tall to be cheering by the time she graduates. She turns 10 in a couple of weeks and she's already wearing the same size shoes as her mom.

  6. #6
    Footballus vita est iamlucky13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Portland, OR
    My Bikes
    Trek 4500, Kona Dawg
    Posts
    2,118
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by spry View Post
    Had a daughter play through highschool.Only expense is off season teams(which all players do now)$500-1000 at the most plus shoes.
    My son in AAA hockey bankrupted me.
    I'm sure that depends a lot on the school and how dedicated the player is. Smaller rural schools would have trouble maintaining full rosters, and are while I'm sure your odds of making varsity are minimal at some schools if you don't participate off season, don't most state athletic associations have rules against requiring such programs?

    Anyways, not quite relevant for a 4th grader.

    Shoes and possibly a lot of gas and time getting her to practice and what not, but the activity and camaraderie will be good for her, in my opinion. Kids who take a natural interest in sports should be encouraged.
    "The internet is a place where absolutely nothing happens. You need to take advantage of that." ~ Strong Bad

  7. #7
    Hey guyz? Guyz? Wait up!! Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    10,477
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If she has an interest, get her started now. This is what you'll be up for:

    Mine is 16 in high school, has been playing since the age of 3. We are in the middle of budget cuts so we have to help with funding. They say it's illegal to call it "pay to play" but I think that's what we are really doing. If another child cannot afford to help financially, then he is not denied. The money will be taken out of the money other parents pay.

    $250 Pay to play (uniform and team bag is loaned)
    $100 bus fee (to bring kid to games at other schools - no return ride)
    $ 80 sweat pants and hoodie
    $150 game shoes
    $100 practice shoes
    $60 for team color socks
    $250 dental guard
    $60 ankle supports


    Not bad at all.

    It's the other teams that he is on throughout off season that costs a lot. Pay for gym reservations (both game gym and practice gym five days a week ), uniform, ref fees, shoes, tournament fees. PER TEAM.

    And to think that I have him on three teams off season.

    Oh plus gas, airfare or hotel for taking him to tournaments.

    Oh and personal trainer, $50 per hour, one hour, twice a week. ON TOP of practice.
    Last edited by Siu Blue Wind; 09-23-10 at 10:54 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha
    We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
    Quote Originally Posted by making View Post
    Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.

  8. #8
    another retro grouch Mr IGH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Chicago NW 'burbs
    Posts
    2,480
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    ...I'm just wondering what kind of long term financial outlay this is going to turn into....
    More than the money it's the time. High school sports are crazy compared to the old days. My brother and I played for a top notch Chicago area high school in the 70's (2nd place in state one year, largest school catagory). You played park district b-ball starting in 5th grade, the Jr High had a team that practiced twice a week and played ~20 games. Then you went out for HS b-ball freshman year (150 boys out of 450 tried out).

    These days the commitment is higher in grade school than we had in High School. IMHO, what's the point? The same kids make the varsity team that would have if the commitment was more reasonable, the same kids get the college scholarships.

    Here's a thought, look closely at the varsity players, how many are using PEDs? Here in Illinois football linemen on competitive programs are 290-300lbs. My HS class won the Illinois large school state championship, the linemen were 220lbs. In another 20 years we'll start seeing the effects as these players that used PEDs age.

  9. #9
    Senior Member bikecrate's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    LF, APMAT
    Posts
    659
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Basketball sounds like a deal. My daughter is into horse riding. $$$$$

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    No Va but ride also in So Md
    My Bikes
    Cervelo SLC-SL, Guru Photon, Waterford, Specialized CX
    Posts
    7,981
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My advice is let your daughter do what she wants to whether it's basketball or cheerleading or whatever. She's only young once so let her try whatever interests her. Sure, it costs money but it's worth it.

    My daughter tried basketball, swimming, gymnastics, softball, soccer, and several others. She stuck with soccer though but ran in high school in cross country and track. Then she went on the college and played varsity all four years - I couldn't have been prouder seeing her start as a freshman.

    The big investment is all the time getting them to practice, going to games all over the place, and being there so they can warm up and prepare game strategy. But it was worth every second.
    You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

  11. #11
    ....gets the cheese Second Mouse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SLC, Utah
    My Bikes
    Panasonic DX 2000, LeMond Reno
    Posts
    2,538
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hopefully they'll still emphasize the fun aspect of the game and it won't be über-competitive. It's easy for a 10-year-old to get burned out pretty quickly if sports are overdone. But as Mr. IGH pointed out, school sports have become a lot more cutthroat than they used to be.

    The more information they'll provide you ahead of time, the better, as to time commitments, costs and other expectations. If they're vague about it, prepare for some unwelcome surprises.

    Around here they say that 75% of kids who start playing soccer at a young age quit by the time they're 12, because it's stopped being fun.
    Last edited by Second Mouse; 09-24-10 at 08:59 AM.

  12. #12
    Recreational Commuter
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Central Ohio
    My Bikes
    Two brand-less build-ups.
    Posts
    992
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    At your daughter's age, you're talking "rec" basketball. Figure about $25 for a reversible jersey, another $20 for a "scale" ball (a bit smaller for smaller hands) and whatever decent b-ball shoes cost in your daughter's size. Don't scrimp on the shoes. The kids with crappy shoes tend to get hurt more often (twisted ankles and muscle pulls from traction issues.)

    My advice, do it. And do whatever you have to to go to the games. There's nothing for a parent quite like watching your daughter and a friend run a "pick and roll" like a machine, seeing her be absolutely fearless in going for a rebound, and watching as she moves past that to start to think tactically on the court. There's nothing for a daughter quite like having Dad (and/or Mom) cheering her on in public, and enthusiastically recounting the games later.

    Your daughter may discover that she's an athlete, or she may just decide it's not as much fun as she expected. Either way, a good learning experience for all concerned, and hella fun while you're at it.
    Riding in the Central Ohio Tour due Cure, June 7th.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    176
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
    Kids who take a natural interest in sports should be encouraged.
    Yes, yes, yes! My in-laws demand that my two-year old is in hockey skates by the time he is three.

    The two-year old, on the other hand, clearly wants to be a ballerino.

    (That is going to be one scary fight with my wife when I won't give in to her parents' wishes like she does without any thought...)
    Last edited by SonataInFSharp; 09-24-10 at 09:09 AM.

  14. #14
    Super Moderator no1mad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    NE OK
    My Bikes
    '06 Kona Smoke
    Posts
    7,281
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kotts View Post
    At your daughter's age, you're talking "rec" basketball. Figure about $25 for a reversible jersey, another $20 for a "scale" ball (a bit smaller for smaller hands) and whatever decent b-ball shoes cost in your daughter's size. Don't scrimp on the shoes. The kids with crappy shoes tend to get hurt more often (twisted ankles and muscle pulls from traction issues.)

    My advice, do it. And do whatever you have to to go to the games. There's nothing for a parent quite like watching your daughter and a friend run a "pick and roll" like a machine, seeing her be absolutely fearless in going for a rebound, and watching as she moves past that to start to think tactically on the court. There's nothing for a daughter quite like having Dad (and/or Mom) cheering her on in public, and enthusiastically recounting the games later.

    Your daughter may discover that she's an athlete, or she may just decide it's not as much fun as she expected. Either way, a good learning experience for all concerned, and hella fun while you're at it.
    Yeah, it more of a recreational type. But it's also basically a farm/developmental program for the varsity. The school has made it to State more times than not, and won it more times than not as well.

    She had thought about soccer, until she remembered what her cousins went through- one of those girls even made the Junior Olympic Developmental squad. That one might have made the US team, but lost interest when she discovered boys.

  15. #15
    location:northern Ohio
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    3,566
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    You talking per year or career total?
    per year
    Generally the girls not playing off season "ride the pines".
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  16. #16
    location:northern Ohio
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    3,566
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by SonataInFSharp View Post
    Yes, yes, yes! My in-laws demand that my two-year old is in hockey skates by the time he is three.

    The two-year old, on the other hand, clearly wants to be a ballerino.

    (That is going to be one scary fight with my wife when I won't give in to her parents' wishes like she does without any thought...)
    A ballerine eh?
    (SMACK)
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  17. #17
    location:northern Ohio
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    3,566
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by bikecrate View Post
    Basketball sounds like a deal. My daughter is into horse riding. $$$$$
    Giant poop squirters
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  18. #18
    location:northern Ohio
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    3,566
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Kind of my thinking as well. My girl has the bubbly personality, but I think she's just gonna be too tall to be cheering by the time she graduates. She turns 10 in a couple of weeks and she's already wearing the same size shoes as her mom.

    I assumed we were talking about High School.
    The pre-post season is not an issue yet.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  19. #19
    location:northern Ohio
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    3,566
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
    I'm sure that depends a lot on the school and how dedicated the player is. Smaller rural schools would have trouble maintaining full rosters, and are while I'm sure your odds of making varsity are minimal at some schools if you don't participate off season, don't most state athletic associations have rules against requiring such programs?

    Anyways, not quite relevant for a 4th grader.

    Shoes and possibly a lot of gas and time getting her to practice and what not, but the activity and camaraderie will be good for her, in my opinion. Kids who take a natural interest in sports should be encouraged.
    Rules regarding off season?What does that mean?
    If you come back at regular season and you suck,you get cut.Hows that for a rule.
    Nowadays kids roll their sports year-round by the high school age.

    Want a watered down sport were kids play at all levels?Try soccer.It's cheap and there is a team for any skill level.The parents are a bit "over the top".
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  20. #20
    another retro grouch Mr IGH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Chicago NW 'burbs
    Posts
    2,480
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by spry View Post
    ...Want a watered down sport were kids play at all levels?Try soccer.It's cheap and there is a team for any skill level.The parents are a bit "over the top".
    The local intramural league I coached b-ball in was pretty low key. The commissioner monitored games and coached the coaches to keep it nice. 10 players to a team, each kid plays 1/2 the game. Makes the coaches work on the entire team, no favoring the stars. Much more controlled compared to soccer, those parents are as bad as baseball.
    The local b-ball and soccer travel teams rely on parents that will push their kids to fill the roster. In travel b-ball, only 6-7 players get to play, the others are there for practice and to help pay expenses. Compared to 30 years ago, the same stars play, the difference is the bench. Kids with 2nd level talent that aren't as driven are displaced by third level talent with money and time....

  21. #21
    long time visiter Alfster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    SW Ontario
    My Bikes
    2005 Trek 6700 disc 2007 Orbea Onix 2009 Raleigh One Way
    Posts
    579
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
    If she has an interest, get her started now. This is what you'll be up for:

    Mine is 16 in high school, has been playing since the age of 3. We are in the middle of budget cuts so we have to help with funding. They say it's illegal to call it "pay to play" but I think that's what we are really doing. If another child cannot afford to help financially, then he is not denied. The money will be taken out of the money other parents pay.

    $250 Pay to play (uniform and team bag is loaned)
    $100 bus fee (to bring kid to games at other schools - no return ride)
    $ 80 sweat pants and hoodie
    $150 game shoes
    $100 practice shoes
    $60 for team color socks
    $250 dental guard
    $60 ankle supports


    Not bad at all.

    It's the other teams that he is on throughout off season that costs a lot. Pay for gym reservations (both game gym and practice gym five days a week ), uniform, ref fees, shoes, tournament fees. PER TEAM.

    And to think that I have him on three teams off season.

    Oh plus gas, airfare or hotel for taking him to tournaments.

    Oh and personal trainer, $50 per hour, one hour, twice a week. ON TOP of practice.
    That's insane. Sounds like parents today are making more of High School sports than they should. Almost sounds like a professional sports team costs. What's with the practice AND game shoes??? $250 dental guard ... do all players wear these, or are there some cheaper alternatives. I remember wearing some cheap plastic guards when I was in High School. $50 per hour personal trainer $60 for team socks How 'bout wearing some socks found in your drawer. Good thing I'm not a parent

    My dogs on the other hand get the best of the best ... including $50 per hour personal trainers

  22. #22
    Footballus vita est iamlucky13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Portland, OR
    My Bikes
    Trek 4500, Kona Dawg
    Posts
    2,118
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by spry View Post
    Rules regarding off season?What does that mean?
    If you come back at regular season and you suck,you get cut.Hows that for a rule.
    Nowadays kids roll their sports year-round by the high school age.

    Want a watered down sport were kids play at all levels?Try soccer.It's cheap and there is a team for any skill level.The parents are a bit "over the top".
    I might be getting a bit mixed up with NCAA sports, but there are rules in some leagues that student athletes can not be required to play or practice outside of specifically defined seasons as a condition of playing in the league.

    It doesn't prevent them from doing voluntarily playing off-season, nor does it prevent the coaches from making selections based on skills. It does attempt to prevent the sport from taking too much time from academics. It's also a rule that's easy to bypass because the reasons behind decisions of who to cut aren't easily police-able.
    "The internet is a place where absolutely nothing happens. You need to take advantage of that." ~ Strong Bad

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •