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    To Kindle or not to Kindle

    Thinking about getting a Kindle... but the cheapest Kindle is around $140... few bucks more and I could get asus-like thingie...

    would you Kindle? Thoughts?



    PS: This is an apple free thread, even tho kindles are made by foxxconn
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    Reading? Like text? Ewww.
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    Kindle is always good to start a good roaring fire. I say yes.
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    I love my Kindle. Much better than the iPad for reading.

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    They are really cool.


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    If you play handheld videogame consoles, you can probably expect the Nintendo 3DS and the followup to the PSP to have an app like this.
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    Gimme a good book...no batts req'd. But if I were to e-read, I'd likely go kindle over i-pad.

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    I'm thinking seriously about buying one. As much as I love "real" books, trying to carry a couple of hard or paper bound books in a book bag or pannier takes too much space, is too much weight, and causes too much wear and tear on the books. A Kindle stored in some type of hard container would not be much bigger then a small paperback and I can still read "Lord of the Rings" and "War and Peace."
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    Speaking for the Old, Cranky Contingent, a few days ago a friend said, "Hey, I've got a book I need to lend you. Oh wait, I can't. It's on my Kindle."
    Pretty sure we'll all have one eventually, but for now it's paper for me.

    I also hate the thought of losing stores like Powells in Portland.

    I know the prices just came down and the quality of the Kindles just went up. Do we think those prices have hit bottom and the quality is as good as it's going to get?

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    I have the Nook, I bought it because a totally hot sale girl was selling them.. I am an easy touch. I didn’t think I would like it.. I still have to print out long docs on the computer because I can’t stand to read them on the screen. Plus I thought for sure I would miss that tactile interface that is so comforting and familiar. I read a couple of books a week. But so far it has been great, books are cheaper, I got a cover that makes it feel a bit like a book, the lack of back lighting seems to have cured my on screen reading dilemma. You can "loan" books to other people with Nooks, at least for a short time. I can now carry three or four "books" with me on the plane and still have room for everything else. I haven’t regretted it at all.
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    I just loaded a Kindle Reader to my laptop. It works just fine for me, since I always have it with me, anyway.
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    My wife and I both have Nooks, and are very happy with them. We found ourselves reading more often with them than w/o. I'd highly recommend comparing all the ereaders available rather than just getting the Kindle. The Kindle is good, but a different one might be better for your use. My wife did the research for us and chose the nook because of the sharing feature and the fact that we can load any epub book we want onto them.
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    My kid had a nook until he was 11 months old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Mouse View Post
    Speaking for the Old, Cranky Contingent, a few days ago a friend said, "Hey, I've got a book I need to lend you. Oh wait, I can't. It's on my Kindle."
    A *good* friend would let you into their account and you could read it that way. I read my wife's kindle books on my phone, for instance.

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    I also hate the thought of losing stores like Powells in Portland.
    I fear that stores like that are already doomed from half.com and amazon's 2ndary markets. Although Powells has a good web store too, and works the no-sales-tax angle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Second Mouse View Post
    I know the prices just came down and the quality of the Kindles just went up. Do we think those prices have hit bottom and the quality is as good as it's going to get?
    The final frontier is getting the kindle's screen quality in color. The kindle screen is amazing for b&w, no comparison to any computer/phone type system.

    If you spring for the cellular kindle, it's free cellular internet anywhere you go, which is pretty cool. On the other hand, it's not hard to find free wi-fi that you can use the kindle for too.

    If you could skype on a kindle it would be awesome.

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    less cumbersome than newspapers.
    you can read magazines off of it too.

    personally, I would only buy kindle if it did comic books, which means it needs a resolution boost and full colour. Not even iPad has this feature, so for now, I just read the actual books. which can get pretty heavy
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    As far as i can tell, despite the initial cash outlay, the Nook or Kindle will end up saving you money if you are an avid enough reader, because digital copies are pretty darn cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    That said, I'd love to have an unencumbered e-paper/e-text/whatever-you-call-it device. Something that could connect to a computer with a USB cable, and could be simply "printed" to like a printer. Similar to a PDF virtual printer, just send the postscript to the device and display it on the screen. Perfect for stuff you don't need to keep, but want to refer to away from a computer.
    I can load PDFs on my nook via USB cable.
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    Forget all the haters. Get a Kindle; they're awesome for what they're meant to do!


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    Wife is keen to get some sort of electronic reader, but we're probably going to go for something with more features than a Kindle.

    Neither of us have modern 'smart' telephones, so something like the product I cannot mention from the fruit company I cannot mention might be perfect. Email, websurfing, video, music, other apps for god knows what - and a book reader.

    We are waiting to see what comes on to the market in the next few months. The fruit company product is great, but plenty of other companies are releasing products at the moment that might be as good/better/cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson View Post
    As far as i can tell, despite the initial cash outlay, the Nook or Kindle will end up saving you money if you are an avid enough reader, because digital copies are pretty darn cheap.
    Barnes & Noble give nook owners a free book every Friday. This summer they also offered classic novels for free every Friday, a new group of 12 or so every week. I've got 30 or 40 books on mine right now, and have only paid for 3 or 4. Sure, some of the free books are crap, but some are pretty good. I also look at it this way: I've read more books since getting my nook in April than I have in the two years prior to getting it. Anything that encourages me to read more is a plus.
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    You can get any public domain book converted to kindle format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyHK View Post
    Wife is keen to get some sort of electronic reader, but we're probably going to go for something with more features than a Kindle.

    Neither of us have modern 'smart' telephones, so something like the product I cannot mention from the fruit company I cannot mention might be perfect. Email, websurfing, video, music, other apps for god knows what - and a book reader.

    We are waiting to see what comes on to the market in the next few months. The fruit company product is great, but plenty of other companies are releasing products at the moment that might be as good/better/cheaper.
    The iPad is great, and no doubt the android competitors will be too, but the kindle is easier on the eye when reading for extended periods and the battery life on the kindle is terrific. it is IMO an occasion when it is better to buy the specific tool for the job - namely reading books - even though that means you have to have two pieces of equipment rather than one.

    Incidentally, both these bits of kit are brilliant for cycling tourists, because they are so light yet allow one to do so much...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
    The iPad is great, and no doubt the android competitors will be too, but the kindle is easier on the eye when reading for extended periods and the battery life on the kindle is terrific. it is IMO an occasion when it is better to buy the specific tool for the job - namely reading books - even though that means you have to have two pieces of equipment rather than one.

    Incidentally, both these bits of kit are brilliant for cycling tourists, because they are so light yet allow one to do so much...
    Wife and I discussed it and decided that while a Kindle would be great for her reading (and travel - no need to carry books), we would get a lot out of the additional features of a tablet like the iPad.

    If the Kindle were even cheaper it might make more sense for our needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    Think of how many paperbacks you could buy for the $140 cost of the Kindle alone. And Kindle book rentals are what, $10 each? Even if you spent $8 per paperback, it'll be a long time before the Kindle catches up. And if you check out books from the library...

    Books don't run out of juice. Books are easy to pass around when you're done with them. Books are less expensive. The Kindle is a gadget for the sake of gadgetism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    Think of how many paperbacks you could buy for the $140 cost of the Kindle alone. And Kindle book rentals are what, $10 each? Even if you spent $8 per paperback, it'll be a long time before the Kindle catches up. And if you check out books from the library...

    Books don't run out of juice. Books are easy to pass around when you're done with them. Books are less expensive. The Kindle is a gadget for the sake of gadgetism.
    It really depends on the books in question. $140 worth of books can easy be just 2 books, or even one, on a specialized field like IT Programming. A typical bookshelf on any of my peers cubicles can have anywhere from $1,000 to $3,000 worth of books. My old bookshelf had even more than that. And when I relocated, most of those books got lost, stolen, or I just gave them away because it was too costly to ship them. Had they been digital, I would still have them. I know how it feels to buy a technical book 2 or 3 times... same book, same edition, just because you NEED it for your work and it got lost or stolen.

    As per the difference between paperpack and kindle prices, it's also relative. I've seen kindle always lower than list price, but often higher than "used" and par with paperback. No shipping tho, which is a plus.

    Battery life is so impressive (3 weeks on some) that running out of juice is not really a problem.

    IMHO, if somebody has lots of available space, does not move around and has a good fire/flood insurance, then it could be just gadgetism. But if you move around a lot, use your books as reference material often or don't have much available space, then it is a real tool.
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    I think the word "proprietary" is what's holding everything back. Text is small and easy to store. If properly backed up, it can outlast the printed media. But, can you backup your kindle/nook e-books?

    X brings up some very good points:

    How long before the e-reader breaks?
    How long before the batteries need to be replaced?
    --> Can the batteries be replaced? Cost?
    If the company dies, so does it's proprietary e-format?

    It would definitely suck to have a bunch of kindle books and a broken/outdated/phased-out kindle.
    *me looks at a nearby stack of DLT backup tapes*
    ...yeah... that would be bad.
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