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Old 10-12-10, 11:38 AM   #1
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Now it Leaks. What Can I Put on It?

I replaced my bathroom faucet, including the drain stopper set-up/rods/tubes.

I have a leak where the little ball has a rod coming out of it which leads to the rod to make the sink stopper go up and down.

I unscrewed the ring that holds the ball in place, put thread tape on it (in the correct direction), and tightened the ring down as much as I could and still allow the stopper rod to move up and down, although it is sorta stiff.

The leak got much, much, much better, but there is still a drip-leak. Whenever someone uses the sink, about 1 drop per 30 seconds will come out. Overnight of dripping/using the sink still causes a puddle under the sink, so I need to stop the drip even more.

Is there some type of sealant or something I can put over the leaking spot? I was just going to put a small towel under the sink and change it when it gets too wet, but I would rather solve the problem at the source.

If I make the ring tighter that holds the ball-thing in place, I will either crack plastic or the drain stopper rod will be too stiff to move.

I was also going to simply re-apply thread tape and see if that helps.

Thoughts? Must be a simple solution that I can’t think of right now…
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plumbers putty, either puts some on the threads or make a "O" of it sort of like a washer to seal where the screw on ring hits the neck of the apeture that hold the ball and rod.

http://www.doityourself.com/stry/plumbers-putty
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I thought of that, but I thought that was more like glue and I would never, ever get the thing apart again.

I have a hardware store next door--I will give it a shot tonight!

Thanks (quick, too!).
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Plumbers putty should stay soft and pliable and is used to create a seal where there is not pressuure behind the water. It is what you use to seal between the faucet and the sink when you install a faucet and what you seal the drain tail piece into a sink with when you install a new drain. I would have no qualms about telling you to use it on that seal and it would be my first choice is thread tape did not work. If you are in the area, stop by my house and grab some out of the second cabient on the left.

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What *I* want to know is why they sell these tubs of plumber's putty when you only need a little bit of it to seal something.
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At some places, like ACE, I think, you can buy it as a roll, on non stick paper backing.
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At some places, like ACE, I think, you can buy it as a roll, on non stick paper backing.
ooooh. I must have missed that the last time I was at my friendly neighborhood ACE.
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What *I* want to know is why they sell these tubs of plumber's putty when you only need a little bit of it to seal something.
You only need a little bit of it because you are not a plumber. When you deal with this sort of thing on a daily basis, as plumbers do, you need a big ol' tub of the stuff.
It's like the 50 pound Costco sack of rice. I look at that and think, "Who the hell needs a 50 pound sack of rice?" Oh yeah; the guy who runs the Chinese restaurant up the street.
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I think as long as you keep the container sealed it shouldnt dry out. When the seals around the bolts that hold the tank to the base of my toilet started leaking, that's what I used. Maybe give it to the kids to use as play-doh?

on the topic of plumbing... my bathroom faucet sometimes leaks where the base meets the countertop. Not sure why it would do that... apparently it uses some kind of drop-in cartridge to mix the hot and cold water inputs but the guy at ace hardware didn't seem to think that would solve the problem, because it never actually drips from the end of the faucet.

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Is it a single lever or dual lever faucet. Where to the hot/cold and mixing cartridge drop in? Water can only leak where there is an opening it would seem. I had a faucet where the seals had worn around the cartridges. The faucet would leak around the handle when ever you turned the hot water on. Took the cartridge out to go get a new seal and ended up dropping it on the floor and shattering it at the store. I just bought a new faucet and installed it instead. Fixed the leak anyway.
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single lever, a single cartridge goes in the center piece when you pop the handle off. like this one. I've been leaning towards a new faucet though and changing out all the bathroom hardware for a bronze finish. Are the two-handle designs more durable?
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Get the tape off it, it's not a pipe thread. If you get it tightened properly (the ball does the sealing) it won't leak.
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Get the tape off it, it's not a pipe thread. If you get it tightened properly (the ball does the sealing) it won't leak.
OP: ^That^ and It sounds to me like the ball is not the correct size.
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Get the tape off it, it's not a pipe thread. If you get it tightened properly (the ball does the sealing) it won't leak.
That was my thought, it just wasn't screwed down right the first time.
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single lever, a single cartridge goes in the center piece when you pop the handle off. like this one. I've been leaning towards a new faucet though and changing out all the bathroom hardware for a bronze finish. Are the two-handle designs more durable?
I think the cartridge may fix it, as the seals on the cartridge are leaking and the water is coming up the shaft and running out around the lever or dome under the lever. It would not come out the spout since it is still sealing on that end.
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Forget the putty. There are usually one OR two conical shaped plastic washers that go around each side of the pivot ball. If there are NONE then they have been lost or misplaced. These are pertinent to the P.O. assembly working correctly and not leaking. Let me say this again. . .forget the putty, it MAY work until the first time the lift rod assembly is used.

Also make sure these one OR two washers are placed correctly as well. It is a no brainer to look at them and see how they are placed. By the way, good job at doing your own plumbing. I would have charged you about $160 for an hour or so using YOUR material.
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Forget the putty. There are usually one OR two conical shaped plastic washers that go around each side of the pivot ball. If there are NONE then they have been lost or misplaced. These are pertinent to the P.O. assembly working correctly and not leaking. Let me say this again. . .forget the putty, it MAY work until the first time the lift rod assembly is used.

Also make sure these one OR two washers are placed correctly as well. It is a no brainer to look at them and see how they are placed. By the way, good job at doing your own plumbing. I would have charged you about $160 for an hour or so using YOUR material.
Plus he won't have to see"Plumbers crack"
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Plus he won't have to see"Plumbers crack"
I thought that's what the giant tub of putty was for.
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I thought that's what the giant tub of putty was for.
2 things plumbers putty can't fix:
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Also make sure these one OR two washers are placed correctly as well. It is a no brainer to look at them and see how they are placed. By the way, good job at doing your own plumbing. I would have charged you about $160 for an hour or so using YOUR material.
Yep, I took the ball connection apart to take the tape off and the plastic o-ring wasn't set right--when it was together, I could still see 3/4 of the threads; after I re-seated the washer and put it back together, I could see no threads, no leaking, and it's bone dry.

BUT, I have another leak (picture below)! Where the gray drain from the new sink assembly meets the existing white drain just before the trap, water comes up a bit and pools at the connection, then it drips out onto the floor below, slowly.

I have the connection as tight as possible--but I didn't use a wrench. I have also tried keeping the connection looser. It leaks either way, but it seems to collect less water and therefore drips much less if I keep the connection looser as the water just falls back down into the pipe--only the splashing water drips out, in that case. This connection was loose, originally, before I swtiched out the parts/faucet/etc, and there were no leaks.

Should I keep it loose? There are no threads here--just two pvc pipes that fit together, one of those plastic washers, and a ring that screws down.

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Forget the putty. There are usually one OR two conical shaped plastic washers that go around each side of the pivot ball. If there are NONE then they have been lost or misplaced. These are pertinent to the P.O. assembly working correctly and not leaking. Let me say this again. . .forget the putty, it MAY work until the first time the lift rod assembly is used.

Also make sure these one OR two washers are placed correctly as well. It is a no brainer to look at them and see how they are placed. By the way, good job at doing your own plumbing. I would have charged you about $160 for an hour or so using YOUR material.
I love it when the right answer appears. Thanks for the correction Wwfin! What am I supposed to do with this ball of plumbers putty now? Can I throw it at MV?
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Can it be fixed with duct tape?
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It's like the 50 pound Costco sack of rice. I look at that and think, "Who the hell needs a 50 pound sack of rice?" Oh yeah; the guy who runs the Chinese restaurant up the street.
A 50 lb sack of rice lasts about 2 months in our house - and there's only 2 of us left here.
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I was going to say "who needs a Chinese restaurant? Try my house!"
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Buckets.

Can it be fixed with duct tape?
I was thinking about it.

I found instructions online and the plastic ring should create pressure and cause it to seal, but it doesn't seal. Or maybe it simply isn't tight enough, but I don't want to use a wrench on it if I could break it.

Hmmmm....
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