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    It's a sad day for the world

    Despite Apple's overpriced hardware, extremely closed system which lacks a bunch of key features, un-useable computers and phones and Steve Jobs arrogance, Apple broke the $300 mark today



    p.s. Dammit! I created another Apple thread!

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    I should go back in time and invest in Apple when they first started publicly trading...
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    Yay for my stock portfolio!
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    Only makes me loathe them even more.
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    Looks like there's a mac related event on the 20th. Mac OS X Lion anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeshoup View Post
    I should go back in time and invest in Apple when they first started publicly trading...

    Lieutenant Dan made Forrest a go-zillionare investing in Apple. They had more money than Davy Crockett. Thats all I've got to say about that.
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
    Lieutenant Dan made Forrest a go-zillionare investing in Apple. They had more money than Davy Crockett. Thats all I've got to say about that.
    I thought Davy ate squirrels, 'ppossums, and the like.

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    that sucks.

    - sent from my iphone/ipad/macbook pro/using airport extreme base station/typed with blue tooth keyboard/magic mouse/apple batteries charged with apple battery charger.

    Quote Originally Posted by aadhils View Post
    Despite Apple's overpriced hardware, extremely closed system which lacks a bunch of key features, un-useable computers and phones and Steve Jobs arrogance, Apple broke the $300 mark today



    p.s. Dammit! I created another Apple thread!

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    The stock will be over $375 by Q4 2011. I'd buy more, but it's already too high a % of my holdings.

    Here are some key factors that scream 'upside' on this stock:

    • Apple only has something like 4% of global computer market share. That's 96% blue sky, in case the arithmetic challenges you.

    • Apple only gets 10% of its current revenues from Asia. Wow.

    • iPhones and iPads sales are exploding without much Asian exposure. Apple is opening 20+ stores in China in the next 12 months.

    • The projected market for smart phones and tablet computers is about one BILLION units. Yikes.

    Figure it out. It's your money.
    Last edited by patentcad; 10-13-10 at 05:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    The stock will be over $375 by Q4 2011.
    Just imagine if Apple improves its position as the 4th biggest personal computer maker (behind Dell, HP, and Acer). They've cracked the 10% barrier. The possibilities are endless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
    Just imagine if Apple improves its position as the 4th biggest personal computer maker (behind Dell, HP, and Acer). They've cracked the 10% barrier. The possibilities are endless.
    I think personal computers have had very little if any to do with AAPL's performance over the past year or two or five.
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    ^^^ That is a very interesting point. I wonder what percentage of their current revenues are computers/software as opposed to the phones and media players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
    Just imagine if Apple improves its position as the 4th biggest personal computer maker (behind Dell, HP, and Acer). They've cracked the 10% barrier. The possibilities are endless.
    Just imagine if you grasped the fact that Apple will surpass all those firms by virtue of the millions upon millions of tiny, profitable computers (iphones, ipads, ipods) they sell that don't factor into the market share stat you are obsessed with. And on every one they sell you the hardware, the software, and then they get a healthy % on all the applications that consumers purchase for them. That's profitable.

    In the meantime their market share for traditional computers keeps growing. iPad cannibalize Macbook sales? Not yet. Mac sales up 20%+ quarter over quarter.

    Read it and weep you Apple hating imbeciles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aadhils View Post
    Despite Apple's overpriced hardware, extremely closed system which lacks a bunch of key features, un-useable computers and phones and Steve Jobs arrogance, Apple broke the $300 mark today



    p.s. Dammit! I created another Apple thread!


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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Just imagine if you grasped the fact that Apple will surpass all those firms by virtue of the millions upon millions of tiny, profitable computers (iphones, ipads, ipods) they sell that don't factor into the market share stat you are obsessed with. And on every one they sell you the hardware, the software, and then they get a healthy % on all the applications that consumers purchase for them. That's profitable.
    It's all jam yesterday and jam tomorrow. Apple is always on the verge of taking over the world, yet somehow winds up on the sidelines. The whole Android iOS thing is already repeating the old MacOS Windoze story, though I'll grant that the percentages they take in the App Store (i.e. taking a pretty hefty share of work done by others) seems a good model for keeping them rolling in dough. Always good to make money off the work of others if you can.

    But the average person who doesn't own the stock shouldn't care who makes money and who doesn't. They also should not care who makes the crap they use any more than they obsess over who makes their dishwasher, TV, or the transmission in their car.

    iPads seem to be popular in the business world and the base price isn't too bad. What I don't get is why I keep seeing people lugging a laptop and an ipad on business trips (naturally, they have plenty of accessories for the ipad such as the stand and bluetooth keyboard). If the ipad is so great for business, you should be able to leave the laptop at home. And then despite having all this electronic crap, they ask me if I have a dongle because they can't connect to the projector....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingingSabre View Post


    Posted from my Hackintosh running OSX.6.3 connected to my Android phone. It's all technology. It's all a tool. Get over yourself.
    Macs are THE tool

    Quote Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
    Just imagine if Apple improves its position as the 4th biggest personal computer maker (behind Dell, HP, and Acer). They've cracked the 10% barrier. The possibilities are endless.
    http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/13/i...-10-6-percent/
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    Meh HP, Dell, Apple they all use Intel hardware.
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    I told my dad to buy in at $8, back around the Amelio days -- he did not

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    Quote Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
    Apple is always on the verge of taking over the world, yet somehow winds up on the sidelines
    You really are astonishingly delusional. Apple has been more 'on the verge of going out of business' for half of its existence. Its current status is quite recent. Their domestic computer market share just bumped up over 10%, they are 17,000 units away from being the 3rd largest computer manufacturer, and their mobile computing mojo threatens to dominate the landscape going forward. They have never been in that position before in their history. They are poised to become the largest tech company in the world within 5 years (they should pass Microsoft next year, after that I think only HP and IBM would remain, and those companies don't have the organic growth of Apple).

    'Sidelines'? Yeah, ok. We'll see about that.

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    What dividends are you earning off your apple shares patentcad?

    I will declare that I am using an early G5 powermac but when it comes to owning shares then business is business.

    If the share price is rising skywards but the dividends are paltry then its a bubble boys and you better get off when the going is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    They are poised to become the largest tech company in the world within 5 years (they should pass Microsoft next year, after that I think only HP and IBM would remain, and those companies don't have the organic growth of Apple).

    'Sidelines'? Yeah, ok. We'll see about that.
    They were the first ones to figure out how significant a force mobile computing will be, but a lot can happen in 5 years, so we will see. The iphone was a big hit, but we'll see how fast that grows now that decent alternatives are appearing and people are turning to them.

    The ipad still has no competition and strong sales of that have made the stock soar recently. But the hype surrounding that product is enormous, and the equilibrium point may be at a significantly lower level than early sales numbers suggest. For example, Apple is selling a lot of ipads to businesses. However, the only thing I'm really seeing people use them for in that sphere is taking notes and screwing around. Someone will figure out that's not good ROI and quit approving purchases since the functionality is covered by other things they already have to buy.

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    pcad might very well be right about the stock price going up to $375. Verizon will start selling iPads in two weeks. A CDMA iPhone can't be far behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
    For example, Apple is selling a lot of ipads to businesses. However, the only thing I'm really seeing people use them for in that sphere is taking notes and screwing around.
    We've bought a bunch of them here... and that's about the feedback we're getting from the staff. I can't wait to see what happens when they start loaning them out to the instructors and students... just to see how they can be used in education. My guess: taking notes and screwing around is the answer.
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    AutoCAD has been officially released for the Mac

    http://www.autodesk.com/autocadformac.

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    $314.74 at close of trading today. I had sold my stock, but said to myself 'I believe in this company, this stock is going to $400 if the stock market doesn't totally tank'. So I bought back in @ $260.

    That worked.

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