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    Adobe releases Reader 10.0 - has sandboxing!

    If you use Adobe Reader, then I suggest all Windows and Mac users update to version 10. You can get it from their FTP site:

    Reader 10 for Windows

    Reader 10 for Mac

    The smaller of the two files you'll find, is just Reader alone. The larger file has another Adobe freebie (called AIR) bundled in there. I always go with just Reader myself.

    What's special about version 10? It has sandboxing. Reader has a long history of security issues. Sandboxing doesn't eliminate them, but it can make them ultimately futile to the bad guys because they can't get anywhere.

    I also suggest Windows users check over their system with Secunia's Personal Software Inspector utility, which helps you get security patches for widespread software like Java, Flash Player, QuickTime, VLC, and so forth. Keeping this stuff up-to-date has great real-world value, so it's worth doing every couple weeks or so.

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    Adobe couldn't possibly suck any harder. Trust me on this. I've been using their software in my business for 20 years. I gave up on calling the company for tech support in the mid 1990's. I had to call them a few months ago - I shouldn't have bothered. Then the last time I switched machines the idiots there were actually asking me for my original Adobe Illustrator 10 disc. I told them that I had been buying their upgrades for 15+ years and they should have a record of that since they're all registered. It took me an hour of yelling at people and getting transferred around to get to somebody who would help me activate my Adobe stuff on the new machine. Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Adobe couldn't possibly suck any harder.
    +1

    They effectively eliminated themselves from my department when they refused to transfer floating licenses (i.e. significantly more expensive) to standalone PC licenses.

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    Bad experiences on Adobe licensing and "upgrade paths" here too. And what's with offering individual products in localised languages, but when they package them as Creative Studio, they're suddenly all in English? And no, you cannot buy localised media for the individual products in your CS package license. That was/still is a nice touch, we fell for that several years ago. Fortunately it was just one isolated product, not the entire licensing scheme, but we learned a lot about Adobe's customer "service" from that experience.

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    derailleurs are overrated bigbenaugust's Avatar
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    I just wish flash worked on 64-bit Linux more than half the time. Stinks having to fire up a second computer just to look at FailBlog.

    Also, the mandatory Adobe Download Manager is inferior... and why did it just install McAfee on my terminal server without asking me first?!
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    If Adobe sucked any harder, they would be Microsoft
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
    If Adobe sucked any harder, they would be Microsoft
    by this logic, I am bordering up becoming chipcom.
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    Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.

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    derailleurs are overrated bigbenaugust's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
    If Adobe sucked any harder, they would be Microsoft
    +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    by this logic, I am bordering up becoming chipcom.
    if you could only learn to suck, not blow, you might just make it!
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Adobe couldn't possibly suck any harder. Trust me on this. I've been using their software in my business for 20 years. I gave up on calling the company for tech support in the mid 1990's. I had to call them a few months ago - I shouldn't have bothered. Then the last time I switched machines the idiots there were actually asking me for my original Adobe Illustrator 10 disc. I told them that I had been buying their upgrades for 15+ years and they should have a record of that since they're all registered. It took me an hour of yelling at people and getting transferred around to get to somebody who would help me activate my Adobe stuff on the new machine. Amazing.
    Can you imagine being the Adobe customer service person on this call? Hell on Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
    I just wish flash worked on 64-bit Linux more than half the time. Stinks having to fire up a second computer just to look at FailBlog.

    Also, the mandatory Adobe Download Manager is inferior... and why did it just install McAfee on my terminal server without asking me first?!
    What product were you trying to get that they crammed their Download Manager down your throat? That's why I provided direct FTP links to Reader 10, if you didn't notice and here's direct links for the Flash Player installers for Windows, if you'd find those useful. I mean hey, FAILBlog is at stake here!

    ActiveX Flash Player installer for IE
    http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get..._player_ax.exe

    non-ActiveX Flash Player installer for FireFox, etc
    http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get...ash_player.exe

    (furthermore, I see they have a preview release of Flash Player 10.1 for Linux at this page that might address your 1080p playback problem on Linux, since 10.1 enables hardware acceleration)


    The moral of the story is that whatever you use, sandboxing is desirable because it's damage containment. If you do use Adobe Reader, you might as well have the latest version of evil, complete with sandboxing If you use something else, that's fine, but keep it up-to-date at a minimum.

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    If Adobe sucked any harder, they would be Intuit

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    I'm not holding my breath for Adobe to come up with a 64bit native binary for Linux. What happens now is the browser uses the 32bit plugin (10.1r85, I think) in a wrapper... which doesn't always cut it. Hence the second computer for FailBlog, YouTube, and that other half of the internet that likes flash. It also makes be regret installing my desktop with the 64bit OS. I just haven't had time to reinstall it back to 32bit yet. Work keeps getting in the way.

    The terminal server just got Reader 10, and my Windows VMs will get it when next I boot them, I suppose.
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    It's like a three way competition between Adobe, Microsoft and Yahoo for the World's Suckiest Company.

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    Litter boxing would be more appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechBgon View Post
    What product were you trying to get that they crammed their Download Manager down your throat?
    Downloading Reader with Firefox prompts you to download their Download Manager first. Which is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shouldberiding View Post
    Downloading Reader with Firefox prompts you to download their Download Manager first. Which is stupid.
    Yeah, I hate their pointless DLM myself. "Hey, let's take a perfectly simple file download and make it ridiculously complicated! Because we're Adobe!" But did you try the ftp links I gave in the first post?

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    After years and frustrations in dealing with Adobe licensing I learned to keep careful records of all purchases, including all details. With Adobe selling through so many different channels, confusion can reign. Being able to support additional resources has worked like a charm in resolving issues.

    I second the Secunia PSI suggestion. It's almost as nice as using a Linux package manager.
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    Adobe releases Reader 10.0 - has sandbagging!

    Fixed for Adobe.

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    It's a PDF reader... big whoop. I just run xpdf. Might install Acrobat Reader if I actually came across something that didn't render in xpdf.
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    Right, I've edited the first post to lead off with "If you use Adobe Reader," emphasis on if

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeybikes View Post
    It's a PDF reader... big whoop. I just run xpdf. Might install Acrobat Reader if I actually came across something that didn't render in xpdf.
    I usually use evince or xpdf on my Linux machines, but when printing postage from usps.com, the barcodes never render right unless I'm using Adobe Reader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
    I usually use evince or xpdf on my Linux machines, but when printing postage from usps.com, the barcodes never render right unless I'm using Adobe Reader.
    Boo. Fortunately, I don't have that need, but still, boo.
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    Do you need acrobat itself to write pdfs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    Do you need acrobat itself to write pdfs?
    Back in the day, that was the case.

    These days, many programs have PDF capability built in.
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