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Old 03-23-11, 07:47 AM   #51
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You just bought it for the comedic value of the name, admit it.
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Old 03-23-11, 09:52 AM   #52
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You got a 40 gallon water heater in your Fit? And it didn't die?
Wow.
I have carried 8' lumber in our Fit... it was a pile of 8' 2x6s... about 20 of them as I recall. We've done 4 people, a baby in a seat, and a dog. We've gone to the city compost pile and loaded all of the bins and bags we could fit in there multiple times. All of the pieces from our second storage shed fit in there once we busted open the box and tetris'd them in with the help of the Ace hardware guys.

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Old 03-23-11, 01:18 PM   #53
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I'd be driving a Fit right now were it not for 3 things:
1) I tend to buy 100k mile used cars as I do my own work and they are cheaper...those don't really exist in a reasonable price range yet.
2) It was underpowered when there were more than two people and a hill. I probably could have dealt with this, but the car seemed a little jittery and poorly connected to the ground in comparison to everything else I've driven.
3) I stumbled across a deal I couldn't pass up on on a nice used Accord.

Honestly since I was laid off a month and a half later I wish I'd just dropped us down a car and had the fiancee ride the bus for a month. However, I didn't know that and I wasn't going to drive the Camaro with ice on the roads, I've made that mistake before.
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Old 03-23-11, 02:11 PM   #54
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You just bought it for the comedic value of the name, admit it.
I was sad when they discontinued the Matrix/Vibe. I drove them a couple of times as a rental. A very nice small station wagon, if a little rattly. The rear cargo area was large and easy to clean with all the hard plastic surfaces.
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Old 03-23-11, 03:40 PM   #55
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You just bought it for the comedic value of the name, admit it.
I got a call from a GM representative who wanted to know how I liked my "Pontiac Veebay"... Then she paused and asked if she was pronouncing it right. Of course I said yes...and that's how I pronounce it now.
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Old 03-23-11, 03:42 PM   #56
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I was sad when they discontinued the Matrix/Vibe. I drove them a couple of times as a rental. A very nice small station wagon, if a little rattly. The rear cargo area was large and easy to clean with all the hard plastic surfaces.
I'm pretty sure that it's just the veebay that's discontinued.
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Old 03-23-11, 06:36 PM   #57
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can you drive something that low in any place that gets snow regularly?
Snow driving is about the driver knowing what he's doing. The short answer is yes. I regularly drive a Mini Cooper that's lower again than that in the snow and while it's not as good as my GC4 it's no hassle at all.
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Old 03-23-11, 06:39 PM   #58
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We have a front wheel drive Pontiac Vibe. The only time we have ever wished for 4 wheel drive was on a steep, snow-covered "driveway" in Colorado. Get something with front wheel drive. It'll have better fuel economy and, even in Michigan, you don't need AWD.
Well no, you don't need it, but there's something to be said for being able to drop the clutch and drive through things IMO. There are lots of times I could not have even gotten into my driveway in a FWD car that my Scooby just blew through; the snow plows deposit a 2-3 foot ridge of nasty snow in the driveway every time they pass.
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I'm pretty sure that it's just the veebay that's discontinued.
No, both are. The Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe were essentially the same car. They were both built in the NUMMI factory in Fremont, California, as a joint venture between GM and Toyota. That factory closed, and is now being used by TESLA to build their electric cars.
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NUMMI factory in Fremont, California, as a joint venture between GM and Toyota. That factory closed, and is now being used by TESLA to build their electric cars.
Awww, I hadn't heard about that. A few of my favorite cars I've owned came outta there:

1987 Toyota Corolla FX-16
1988 Chevy Nova Hatchback
1991 Geo Prizm

I'm like jccaclimber. Buy 'em at about 90-110 K. Run 'em 'til about 200-250K.

I got my 88 Nova for $150. Best deal I've ever gotten carwise. Wiper motor, headlamp wiring and starter needed work, but all easy fixes. Only parts I needed was a junkyard starter for $30.

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And if you want to keep the AWD SUV, there is the Lexus RX450 AWD Hybrid. It essentially has 2 electric motors, one powers the front and the other powers the rear.
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Old 03-23-11, 08:27 PM   #62
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No, both are. The Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe were essentially the same car. They were both built in the NUMMI factory in Fremont, California, as a joint venture between GM and Toyota. That factory closed, and is now being used by TESLA to build their electric cars.
I'm pretty sure that the Matrix was (and still will be built) in Ontario. At least I hope so.

But you're right about it being a shame that the NUMMI plant being closed. There was a rumor at one point that Toyota was going to let GM rebadge the Prius at that plant, in an effort to keep it open.
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I've gotten up to Timberline in my front wheel drive Corollas better than many 4WD Blazers and Suburbans
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