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Old 12-29-10, 06:48 PM   #1
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Car Shopping

I'll be car shopping here in the next few months. I've been driving an SUV, but with the price of gas on the rise, I'm having second thoughts. I drive about 38 miles round trip for work. I'm in Michigan, so I like the 4wd(or awd). I've been thinking about Toyota Matrix, Honda Fit - I like hatchbacks. Any other recommendations?
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Jetta diesel. 50 MPG and great reliability.
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I've got a 2005 Matrix. It's a pretty decent, drive-around-the-city type vehicle. Hatchbacks are great for hauling stuff. However, if you're doing lots of highway miles, I'd go with something else.
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AWD is gonna rob you of fuel economy, but...

-Suzuki SX4, Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback (Ralliart has the AWC), should be quite a few chime in about Subaru's...
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Jetta diesel. 50 MPG and great reliability.
Really? I'm skeptical. Then again, I've only owned Japanese cars.

I test drove a TDI Sportwagen last year. The legroom was somewhat scrunched widthwise. Otherwise a very nice vehicle that gets that awesome mileage...more than offsets the higher cost of diesel.
And if they'd make an AWD version
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Jetta diesel. 50 MPG and great reliability.
There are a lot of diesels out there that are highly reliable. A new VW is suspect, in my mind. (See also this.)
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Old 12-29-10, 08:23 PM   #7
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Hyundai or Kia (same difference)with the 100,000mi. warranty and good gas mileage.


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To hide the tatoos from the joint.
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Speaking of German, the Audi A3 fits the hatch with AWD requirements.
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Within the set of Non-SUV AWD vehicles:

- Toyota and Honda have new, unproven crossover vehicles
- If you want heart-stopping performance: Audi and Porsche (But they will empty your piggy bank and keep it empty).
- If you want sensible and relatively problem-free, I'd look at Subaru (> 2005 to avoid a widespread head gasket problem )
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When buying any car,check Edmonds.com and read about that model under consumer reliability.
Their advice is factual and could save you a lot of greif.
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As SB^ stated,beware of new unproven models.
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When buying any car,check Edmonds.com and read about that model under consumer reliability.
Their advice is factual and could save you a lot of greif.
+1 ask car people about cars.
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Old 12-29-10, 09:32 PM   #13
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Subaru. Something like the Impreza hatch would be cool.
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I love my Subaru. Both the one I currently have and previous ones.
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By the time you narrow down your priorities: price range, size, type, availability, personal requirements, bias (ha!), etc, you find that there are only one or two cars that would be a good fit out of the sea of 100s of models. At least this is what I have realized after having the chance to car shop several times in which I could take time to actually choose a car.

That being said, both the FIT and Matrix are great. I have a friend who swears by his FIT, and I used to own a Vibe (Matrix). I loved the Vibe so very much. It could fit five fat adults without issue, and it could haul stuff. I swear it was even more useful than my in-laws' Escape. Major blind spots regardless of how tall you are, though, so you have to be very diligent in adjusting your side mirrors. Great gas mileage if you don't get the AWD version.
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Old 12-30-10, 10:04 AM   #16
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these are fun and very quick, cheep on gas and front wheel drive but low to the ground. I just traded 1 of my 4x4s for this one
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Old 12-30-10, 04:05 PM   #17
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Modern, small economical cars are perfectly at home doing long miles. I often do 400+ mile trips in a 1.5 litre, 4 cylinder car and I used to commute 35 miles a day in a 1 litre, 3 cylinder car. No problems at all. Both cars were manual. At work we have a base model Fit (1.3 litre but with auto) and its perfectly comfortable eating up miles too although it can be a little sluggish when the air is on but still impressive for such a small motor pushing an auto and air.

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Really? I'm skeptical. Then again, I've only owned Japanese cars.

I test drove a TDI Sportwagen last year. The legroom was somewhat scrunched widthwise. Otherwise a very nice vehicle that gets that awesome mileage...more than offsets the higher cost of diesel.
And if they'd make an AWD version
I should have been more specific... in general, because of the way they're built and fewer moving parts, the engine will be more reliable. I can't really speak to the car, though I have friends with two Passats (one gas, one diesel) and they've been very solid cars for them.
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I should have been more specific... in general, because of the way they're built and fewer moving parts, the engine will be more reliable. I can't really speak to the car, though I have friends with two Passats (one gas, one diesel) and they've been very solid cars for them.
Only thing bad I've heard about TDIs is their electrical systems. Weird gremlins in the wires.
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It won't happen but it'd be awesome if Subie would put out a diesel...of any of their models.
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Drive a RAV4, great car for a great price. It gets better mileage that Subaru and more interior space. Get the 4 cylinder AWD, great car.
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It won't happen but it'd be awesome if Subie would put out a diesel...of any of their models.
They've had diesels in Europe for the last few years. It'd be so awesome if they'd bring 'em to the US.
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I've been looking at some cars/crossovers/suvs. I like the looks and features of the Kia Sportage - I guess its a small crossover. I've got 4 vehicles on my list, Kia Sportage, Jeep Liberty, Toyota Rav4 and Subaru Outlook(or Forester). I need to drive them and go from there. With the cost of gas going up - its $3.55 today in Michigan - maybe I should be looking at a Kia Soul or Honda Fit?
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these are fun and very quick, cheep on gas and front wheel drive but low to the ground. I just traded 1 of my 4x4s for this one
can you drive something that low in any place that gets snow regularly?
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I'd personally be iffy about purchasing a VW over here in the USA. It seems like there is a highly unhealthy ratio of failures compared to the number of VW actually on the road in USA.
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