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    Any Google Voice users?

    Currently using Tracfones. Wanting to maximize airtime, so started looking around for VoiP options. Google Talk appears to limited to other Google users (i.e., "in network"), but the Voice looks like it's free, unlimited calling inside North America. That being said, I've got a couple of questions.

    -What's the best way to interface while making calls- USB headset w/mic, built in speakers and mic (speakerphone route)? Laptops in the house don't support Bluetooth.
    -Kinda fuzzy here, but Voice looks to be more of a web based app than a downloaded client? I could access it from any computer via my Google Account ID?
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    Google voice is a pretty robust webapp, voicemail, calling options, contact lists, etc. If you just want to make pc calls, you can make phone calls directly from your gmail account.

    Oh, and a headset would probably give you the best quality.
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    I use Logitech Vid for video and voice that is part of Google TV. I use the same bluetooth ear piece on my pc that I use on my Blackberry, works well and gives me untethered freedom to move. It works well with webcam mics or built in speaker & Mic's inter graded into you pc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Currently using Tracfones. Wanting to maximize airtime, so started looking around for VoiP options. Google Talk appears to limited to other Google users (i.e., "in network"), but the Voice looks like it's free, unlimited calling inside North America. That being said, I've got a couple of questions.

    -What's the best way to interface while making calls- USB headset w/mic, built in speakers and mic (speakerphone route)? Laptops in the house don't support Bluetooth.
    -Kinda fuzzy here, but Voice looks to be more of a web based app than a downloaded client? I could access it from any computer via my Google Account ID?

    Be careful with your terminology; Google Voice is the old GrandCentral system in which you get assigned a phone number that can ring multiple phones, handle your voicemail, perform call transcription, etc, call other phones, etc. But it does NOT use VoIP. So it uses voice minutes on cellphone plans. Clients are available for most smartphones, or you can use it from landlines, though it's clunky, since you have to dial the GV number and then the destination number.

    It sounds like you're referring to the GMail Call/Google Talk VoIP system used from the web, which is entirely different ( so far - presumably it will integrate with GV at some point. ) Any cheap USB mic/headset works fine. Call quality is comparable to Skype - sometimes good, sometimes beyond awful ( even on a 30Mb internet connection. )
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    ^^So Voice is more like a switchboard, but doesn't really replace the existing mobile or landline? But Talk is a VoiP type service that could replace said mobile or landline?

    What attracted me to Voice was all of the features; Talk looked like it was only capable of interacting with other Talk users.

    I'm basically just needing/wanting something that I can avoid incurring airtime on the prepaid phone for when I'm home. I thought Voice might work, but be very picky who I gave my direct number to. Everyone else would get the Google # and I could check messages via computer at work- but only if it's cloud based, that could accessed from any PC through my Google ID log on info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    ^^So Voice is more like a switchboard, but doesn't really replace the existing mobile or landline? But Talk is a VoiP type service that could replace said mobile or landline?

    What attracted me to Voice was all of the features; Talk looked like it was only capable of interacting with other Talk users.

    I'm basically just needing/wanting something that I can avoid incurring airtime on the prepaid phone for when I'm home. I thought Voice might work, but be very picky who I gave my direct number to. Everyone else would get the Google # and I could check messages via computer at work- but only if it's cloud based, that could accessed from any PC through my Google ID log on info.

    Correct; The analogy of a switchboard is perfect for Google Voice. You still need a physical phone - cell or landline - to use it. Talk can be used to call domestic phone numbers, albeit just from the web interface. It doesn't have GV's options for selective ringing, call filtering, etc.

    Depending on your phone and carrier, Skype is an option if you want to minimize airtime using VoIP. On my Verizon Android phone, I can use it to call out on WiFi or 3G without incurring airtime charges, for example. There are clients for Windows/OSX/cell phones. The ability to call a phone number is $2.95/month for unlimited domestic calling, and cheap rates for international.
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    I would personally recommend Skype. That way you could use it with an iPod touch anywhere you have WiFi access.

    I use Google Voice but it's really only good for a Voicemail replacement. Never heard of their voip service and I'm actually pretty sure it doesn't exist. You can however get it working with a little hacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twobadfish View Post
    I would personally recommend Skype. That way you could use it with an iPod touch anywhere you have WiFi access.

    I use Google Voice but it's really only good for a Voicemail replacement. Never heard of their voip service and I'm actually pretty sure it doesn't exist. You can however get it working with a little hacking.

    GV is really much more than a voicemail replacement. The selective routing feature are awesome. For example, I have mine configured so that when friends or family call, it rings my landline, home office phone, and cell. When coworkers call during working hours, it rings just my office. After hours, co-workers get my cell. And so on.

    Plus, unlimited free incoming and outgoing texts are nice. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulveyr View Post
    Correct; The analogy of a switchboard is perfect for Google Voice. You still need a physical phone - cell or landline - to use it. Talk can be used to call domestic phone numbers, albeit just from the web interface. It doesn't have GV's options for selective ringing, call filtering, etc.

    Depending on your phone and carrier, Skype is an option if you want to minimize airtime using VoIP. On my Verizon Android phone, I can use it to call out on WiFi or 3G without incurring airtime charges, for example. There are clients for Windows/OSX/cell phones. The ability to call a phone number is $2.95/month for unlimited domestic calling, and cheap rates for international.
    No smartphones here. Using an old Nokia candy bar on the Tracfone prepaid network. That's why I was looking at the Google stuff- to hopefully make/take calls when at home, without using airtime on the cell. I'm going to look over that Talk info again. It might work, so long as it's not limited to other Talk subscribers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulveyr View Post
    Plus, unlimited free incoming and outgoing texts are nice. :-)
    True. Personally though I didn't find much use with it having only one phone (cell). I did use it as a tech support line for a while though... very cheap solution for something like that - I just wish you could schedule "Do Not Disturb" times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twobadfish View Post
    I just wish you could schedule "Do Not Disturb" times.
    You can do that sort of thing, actually; Edit your phone, go to Advanced Settings, and set a Custom Schedule for "Do not ring". You can only set it only for one time range on weekdays and one time range on weekends, though.
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    After doing a bit more reading, it looks like I'll have to download and install the voice/video plug-in for chat. Then I can place calls to landlines or mobiles through the Call feature in Gmail.

    Now I'm wondering if I still need to get a Google number or not. Surely a random number isn't generated every time someone uses that Call feature?
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    I signed up for Google Voice for one reason: Transcribing voicemail into email. And, I can tell you it is utter CRAP. Transcriptions are not even close. Absolutely terrible. So, I stopped using it.

    Can't comment on the centralized number feature as I never used it, but I hear it works fine.

    *edit* Tracfone? They're still around?
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    Been a GV user since the Grand Central beta invite days. It is a great service. ^^ The transcription is great. Sure it might get things wrong, but it still give you a gist of what the call is about--you can always hit the play button and hear the message.

    We have the number forwarded to both my wife and my cell, our home land line, and my office. I like to know if I give out a single number to someone, they can reach us (i.e. our pediatrician, daycare, sitter, etc...). I also like giving out my GV number without the fear of my number getting sold since the hoops one has to go through the fist time you call the number (mainly stating your name and being put on hold) drops robo-dialers.

    as far as using it as a voip, it is possible to use it as such if you get a SIP number ported to it (gizmo5 for example). here's a quick tutorial for those who might be interested: http://billeater.com/tips/100-free-v...oice-and-gizmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneefy View Post
    I signed up for Google Voice for one reason: Transcribing voicemail into email. And, I can tell you it is utter CRAP. Transcriptions are not even close. Absolutely terrible. So, I stopped using it.

    Can't comment on the centralized number feature as I never used it, but I hear it works fine.

    *edit* Tracfone? They're still around?
    I'll admit the transcriptions aren't great. But they are usually good when the speaker annunciates and speaks clearly. But either way, I don't have to dial *86, enter my password, press 7, listen to all the messages that will be deleted from my inbox sent from 435312353 on tuesday, december 21st at 9:32pm, then to finally get to the message that said "Hi, call me back."

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    Quote Originally Posted by twobadfish View Post
    I'll admit the transcriptions aren't great. But they are usually good when the speaker annunciates and speaks clearly. But either way, I don't have to dial *86, enter my password, press 7, listen to all the messages that will be deleted from my inbox sent from 435312353 on tuesday, december 21st at 9:32pm, then to finally get to the message that said "Hi, call me back."
    Exactly. The transcriptions can sometimes be hilarously bad ( especially with Southern accents ), but are usable enough that a quick glance can tell me if it's something I need to address immediately, or can wait until later. Much, much faster than listening to voicemail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulveyr View Post
    Exactly. The transcriptions can sometimes be hilarously bad ( especially with Southern accents ), but are usable enough that a quick glance can tell me if it's something I need to address immediately, or can wait until later. Much, much faster than listening to voicemail.
    Maybe people calling me just mumble a lot. GV wouldn't even transcribe half of my messages. I just got empty emails with attachments in those cases. And the other half were so poorly transcribed as to make it not worthwhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sneefy View Post
    Maybe people calling me just mumble a lot. GV wouldn't even transcribe half of my messages. I just got empty emails with attachments in those cases. And the other half were so poorly transcribed as to make it not worthwhile.
    It seems to do much better with women's voices, from what I've seen. Voicemails from men and non-Midwestern accents tends to have a lot more errors.
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