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    Using A Droid As A Wireless Net Connection

    I can't seem to Google any plain English answers to this question that don't require you to be a hacker and/or have a degree in computer engineering. I'm trying to get my PS3 connected to the internet in the sleeper berth of an 18-wheeler. I recently bought a Droid "Global 2" smartphone that's awful nice, and I bought the additional data service that will supposedly let me do this, but so far no dice. I don't know what the devil a WEP key is and I don't want to "hack" or reprogram my phone, I just want it to do what I bought it to do.
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    Is it asking you for a WEP key that exists or is it telling you to create one?

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    I believe the correct googling phrase would be "using droid as wifi hotspot". Something about some "WiFi Tether App" keeps popping up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    Is it asking you for a WEP key that exists or is it telling you to create one?
    WPA key, actually, and it's asking for one. Seems to accept a max of nine digits. (???)
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    ^^^ It sounds as if your phone has found a WiFi network and is trying to connect to it. So I am guessing that you are trying to connect to a WiFi network that has WPA security enabled. Unless you know the WPA key, and enter in the nine digit number, you will not be able to connect to that network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MillCreek View Post
    ^^^ It sounds as if your phone has found a WiFi network and is trying to connect to it. So I am guessing that you are trying to connect to a WiFi network that has WPA security enabled. Unless you know the WPA key, and enter in the nine digit number, you will not be able to connect to that network.
    No, my phone is connected to Verizon and is a mobile Wifi hotspot in and of itself, it's my Playstation 3 that is having connectivity issues with it, even though it works just fine with my wireless router at home. It scans and recognizes the Droid, but then it asks for this WPA thing. I don't know what that even is and certainly don't know where to find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson View Post
    I can't seem to Google any plain English answers to this question that don't require you to be a hacker and/or have a degree in computer engineering. I'm trying to get my PS3 connected to the internet in the sleeper berth of an 18-wheeler. I recently bought a Droid "Global 2" smartphone that's awful nice, and I bought the additional data service that will supposedly let me do this, but so far no dice. I don't know what the devil a WEP key is and I don't want to "hack" or reprogram my phone, I just want it to do what I bought it to do.

    From a search it seems you can't do it without using a PC.
    So you tether your laptop to the droid and then bridge the PS3 to the laptop.

    I would assume this is a limitation of the OS on PS3. It probably has no native support for this.
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    A WEP key is a hexadecimal key, usually a phone number, 10 digit.

    A WPA key well, this explains it

    WPA
    It is an interim solution that is used now until 802.11i comes out.

    It still using RC4, but the Key was changed to TKIP.

    TKIP basically works by generating a sequence of WEP keys based on a master key, and re-keying periodically before enough volume of info. could be captured to allow recovery of the WEP key. TKIP changes the Key every 10,000 packets, which is quick enough to combat statistical methods to analyze the cipher.

    TKIP also adds into the picture the Message Integrity Code (MIC). The transmission’s CRC, and ICV (Integrity Check Value) is checked. If the packet was tampered with. WPA will stop using the current keys and re-keys.
    This site may help, somewhat
    http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...ctadvance.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGuy View Post
    From a search it seems you can't do it without using a PC.
    So you tether your laptop to the droid and then bridge the PS3 to the laptop.

    I would assume this is a limitation of the OS on PS3. It probably has no native support for this.
    I don't have a laptop.
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    Somebody claims that http://www.mobile-stream.com/easytether/android.html works. There is a free demo.
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    Does anyone know how I can get my Droid's WPA key? I assume the engineers thought of a method for retrieving it in this "user friendly" age of ours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGuy View Post
    Somebody claims that http://www.mobile-stream.com/easytether/android.html works. There is a free demo.
    See, that's the thing, I'm not taking the PC with me on the truck, (space is limited,) especially when I can do most rudimentary online activities from the phone, I just want it to act like a wireless router for my PS3, like it's goddamn supposed to!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    Only if you understand computer language. I don't. That's why I asked for the translation into Klingon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson View Post
    See, that's the thing, I'm not taking the PC with me on the truck, (space is limited,) especially when I can do most rudimentary online activities from the phone, I just want it to act like a wireless router for my PS3, like it's goddamn supposed to!
    Well I'm guessing you're SOL. I don't think havig the WPA/WEP key is going to help you because the experts are saying that the PS3 can pick up the network. It's just prevented from connecting to ad-hoc networks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson View Post
    See, that's the thing, I'm not taking the PC with me on the truck, (space is limited,) especially when I can do most rudimentary online activities from the phone, I just want it to act like a wireless router for my PS3, like it's goddamn supposed to!
    Course you could also go with a netbook possibly. Just make sure you know what is needed to "bridge" them and make sure the netbook has it.
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    KP, as near as I can tell, you are going to have to have some skills to do this. You need root access to your phone, and can trash your OS if you do it wrong.

    Method 1: Tether Android with Apps that Need Root (Free, heavy configuration)

    The Android Wi-Fi Tether application turns your phone into a Wi-Fi hotspot--essentially a MiFi--in one tap. The catch? You have to gain root access to your phone, a multi-step process that uses an unofficial Android add-on which can brick your phone if applied incorrectly. Rooting Android is doable for geeks and hackers with experience soft-modding hardware, but it's not something most users could (or should!) do. http://smarterware.org/4575/how-to-t...-android-phone
    I really don't recommend this, though unless you are very comfortable working in root.
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    What a freaking hassle. Can anyone tell me how to find my WPA key just in case?
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    At least the phone has Tetris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    KP, as near as I can tell, you are going to have to have some skills to do this. You need root access to your phone, and can trash your OS if you do it wrong.



    I really don't recommend this, though unless you are very comfortable working in root.
    I'm not sure that will help in this situation - because the PS3 is limited (by firmware) from connecting to ad-hoc networks.
    Somebody had to go back and find old hardware , throw a PS3 linux port on and then they got theirs to connect.
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    Appropriate response.
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    WPA and WEP are security protocols

    in simple terms you set up your wifi router and give it the password, and it will allow computers to connect to it that know the same password.

    In your specific case the phone contains the wifi router, the WPA key is the password, and the PS3 is the device that is trying to connect to it. In the case of a router, sometimes routers provided by internet providers will have the key already built into them. If you go to BestBuy and buy a router, it probably doesn't have a key in it and you give it the key that you want it to have.

    Hopefully this explains it so you can understand the terminology better. If I was in your case I would find forums that deal with your specific phone and ask the question there. Or I would go back to the store where I bought the phone and ask them for help.

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    The forums are saying it can't be done without a pc. And the people at the store probably know even less. I'm sorry. Most people selling those phonese are lucky if they can recite the specs for a phone. Heaven forbid you ask them a remotely vague tech question.
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    I understand KP's frustration now. His android IS a hotspot. As a hotspot, it must have a key of some sort. Every client (PS3 in KP's case) needs the key in order to connect. Easy right?

    WRONG!

    I googled for quite some time and it seems the internetz doesn't know. It should be easy like "settings->wan->security->wep key" or something like it. But every page I googled was some kind of android developer mumbo-jumbo.

    I guess if I had one in my hand I could look on the usual places and *might* find the bloody key. But yeah, clear instructions are elusive to find.

    I'll say, call your cellphone company customer support... i hate to say it but it seems to be the only way.
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