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Old 03-21-11, 06:40 PM   #1
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Did I just lose my job?

Ok, so I head into work on typical Monday morning and recieved a call from HR dept stating they'd like to meet with me to go over my 3 month review. So, I head into HR and we talk about the same topics that the manager and I reviewed, and at the end of our conversation they say "I don't think this is going to work out".

I say OK and ask if there is a review board I need to meet with or if I'm being asked to leave since I've never been asked to leave a job before. I was told to go back to my dept. manager and discuss my weakness that was brought up in the review. I'm thinking to myself "I'm an IT administrator and they're sending me back to my desk". OK, it's a small company with small IT shop but 12 years in IT every time some comes out of HR there escorted out and they're UID's are disabled while there in there with HR.

I get back to my desk and discuss my weakness that the manager points out on the review and asked if I had improved any in the following month since my review. I'm still trying to adjust on how they like to run there IT shop, and was told my skillset are fine. So I ask my manager do I conduct business as normal until I'm asked to leave? So this happens at 11AM and I work rest of day. At 5PM was told "See ya tomorrow".

I'm like WTF... I feel like a red headed step child working there now, and feel very awkward going in tomorrow. I've been there four months but have completed all assignments in timely manner.

Has anyone been through this before?
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I think you ought to talk with your manager about your status and discuss what HR said and the impression that you were left with. Be forthright and honest, but at the same time stress that you are quite capable and interested performing and would like to make sure that you exceed their expectations of you. You just can't do that if you don't know your status or what those expectations are.
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I think you ought to talk with your manager about your status and discuss what HR said and the impression that you were left with. Be forthright and honest, but at the same time stress that you are quite capable and interested performing and would like to make sure that you exceed their expectations of you. You just can't do that if you don't know your status or what those expectations are.
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I think you ought to talk with your manager about your status and discuss what HR said and the impression that you were left with. Be forthright and honest, but at the same time stress that you are quite capable and interested performing and would like to make sure that you exceed their expectations of you. You just can't do that if you don't know your status or what those expectations are.
Thanks. I'm now putting thought on notepad to be able to review in the morning. When I went back to manager I did state that I was taken back about what HR had advised, and asked how to proceed. I'm pulling out the job requirements that were posted with the job so I can gather some thought. I'm just broadsided by the whole sitution. I went through two interviews during the hiring process so I'm sure I clearly stated my experience and abilities. I would hope it wouldn't be a personality conflict, and don't feel that is the problem.
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Old 03-22-11, 02:57 AM   #6
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Man, that's a rock and a hard place. I wonder if HR is operating on another agenda that your boss. Nothing worse that mixed messages to fry your brain.
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That is pretty odd, especially since you are an IT admin! When we fired our main computer guy, we made sure he was nowhere near the computers before, during, and after he was fired--and I personally changed log-ins, passwords, and UIDs before they even brought him in to fire him!

Maybe your HR people are really dramatic, just in general? I know ours are scary-dramatic; one gal in particular gives you a huge smile as she is firing you, as though she LOVES to fire people. It's really creepy.
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i love that the HR guys are doing your eval instead of the manager you work with directly every day.
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Old 03-22-11, 12:40 PM   #9
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Your the IT administrator.
Create some batches that will trigger some stored procedures. The stored procedures are simple "Drop Schema" commands.
Be ready to run these batch files at the drop of a hat.
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jsharr and Modo are idiots, don't listen to them. Also, don't listen to a damn thing I say either. I taught Modo and jsharr how to be idiots.

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Just don't forget who Big Daddy Idiot is around these parts, sofa queen.
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OP sounds like you worked at a really screwed up place, who knows what's going to happen. Some places torture their emplyees but never fire them.

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Based on the cost of the destruction you're recommending, OP would be commiting a felony. Great idea!
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What were your weaknesses that make you unsuitable for the job?
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It sounds like your employer considers your performance marginal. HR is taking steps to protect the company and trying to get you to resign. Your manager doesn't feel that strongly and obviously isn't taking a stand one way or the other

I would start looking for a new job and try to outlast your current job until you find something.
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I call that the squeeze.
Basically HR set you up to get fired. This sucks.
My reason for this is that now you have a "black mark" on your record and when they go back in for your 90 day your gonna be a bug in a mason jar and yes you will be dissected.

Alternatively you could ask a co-worker if this is HR hazing.

Sometimes work may be par or uber par, but attitude ( I do not know you so don't take offence) plays a huge role. If you walk in and are all cocky and have a "this is the way I have always done things" saunter. That doesn't look good either.
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OP sounds like you worked at a really screwed up place, who knows what's going to happen. Some places torture their emplyees but never fire them.


Based on the cost of the destruction you're recommending, OP would be commiting a felony. Great idea!


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My recommendation would be to start sending your boss an email each time you complete a significant task, including an outline of all the benefits the project will bring. It's much harder to let someone go for incompetence or laziness if you can show evidence of continual success, and even progress since your last review.
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My recommendation would be to start sending your boss an email each time you complete a significant task, including an outline of all the benefits the project will bring. It's much harder to let someone go for incompetence or laziness if you can show evidence of continual success, and even progress since your last review.
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just wondering how work was today?
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My recommendation would be to start sending your boss an email each time you complete a significant task, including an outline of all the benefits the project will bring. It's much harder to let someone go for incompetence or laziness if you can show evidence of continual success, and even progress since your last review.
If one of my guys did they every time they did something, I'd be asking them why they're bothering me with that crap. That's why we have a project tracking system. ;-)

Based on what the OP claimed, it's not the manager who has the problem, it's HR. The question is - what led HR to believe there's an issue? Is the manager a milquetoast who can't do the dirty work of letting his reports know there's an problem? Is there another manager higher up who is making negative comments?

OP needs to find out who and what initiated the HR action. Otherwise, it's just pissing in the wind. If it's a small company, it should be easy to find out. If it's not easy to find out, then it's possible that the OP simply isn't in tune with the company politics, culture, and people. It happens to the best of people, but it's better to find out sooner rather than later, for both sides of the table.
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