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    to take a bike that has been abandoned for over a month? It's locked to a bike rack near a grocery store. The tires are flat and the components are starting to rust. Is it wrong to cut the lock and give it some TLC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky53s View Post
    to take a bike that has been abandoned for over a month? It's locked to a bike rack near a grocery store. The tires are flat and the components are starting to rust. Is it wrong to cut the lock and give it some TLC?
    I guess that would depend on whether it became yours yet?

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    Yes, it's wrong. It belongs to somebody. Could be stolen and left there.
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    It's a cheap frame, nothing special. And no, it hasn't become mine yet. I was just wondering.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky53s View Post
    It's a cheap frame, nothing special. And no, it hasn't become mine yet. I was just wondering.....
    Agree with Siu. You don't know the circumstances of why they've locked up the bike. There may be a reason it's still there.

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    One of my neighbours hasn't driven his H2 anywhere for almost a month. It's all dusty, and the battery is probably dead. Can someone "liberate" it and give it some TLC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    Agree with Siu. You don't know the circumstances of why they've locked up the bike. There may be a reason it's still there.
    My best friend was in intensive care for two weeks and hasn't been to work in over a month. I just saw her bike locked to a pole outside of her bf's complex. So I went and wiped it down so it wouldn't be so dusty and I moved the handle bar so the tire would face the other way. Good thing nobody tried to take it or strip it.
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    Don't steal bikes.

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    I understand not taking a Hummer, or a bike that is identified as someone's, but the city will cut the chain soon and put it in the trash. I hardly compare it to taking a vehicle......
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    How about talking to the manager of the grocery store? He can cut the lock, put it in storage somewhere in the store for a certain amount of time and leave a note on the rack explaining where it is and that it would be returned to the owner with the proper proof. But be sure to let the Police Dept know (with a picture) so that if someone reported it stolen, it's been found. Give the manager and the PD your number and if nobody claims it within a certain amount of time, maybe it will be given to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky53s View Post
    I understand not taking a Hummer, or a bike that is identified as someone's, but the city will cut the chain soon and put it in the trash. I hardly compare it to taking a vehicle......
    Taking the bike because the city will 'probably' remove the bike as trash is faulty justification. Ask yourself this, would you want to be caught by the police while cutting through the chain. Would your reasoning be enough to convince the police you were doing the neighborhood a favour by eliminating trash???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
    How about talking to the manager of the grocery store? He can cut the lock, put it in storage somewhere in the store for a certain amount of time and leave a note on the rack explaining where it is and that it would be returned to the owner with the proper proof. But be sure to let the Police Dept know (with a picture) so that if someone reported it stolen, it's been found. Give the manager and the PD your number and if nobody claims it within a certain amount of time, maybe it will be given to you.
    A friend did exactly that. The police said put an ad in the paper, then if no one answers the ad in (I think) one month he can keep it. He did, he owns it.
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    If you have to ask if something wrong before doing it, then it is wrong. The right thing is always obvious and may not be what we want to do. But we all like to ask for/find a way to justify the wrong thing that we want to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazydad View Post
    If you have to ask if something wrong before doing it, then it is wrong. The right thing is always obvious and may not be what we want to do. But we all like to ask for/find a way to justify the wrong thing that we want to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky53s View Post
    I understand not taking a Hummer, or a bike that is identified as someone's, but the city will cut the chain soon and put it in the trash. I hardly compare it to taking a vehicle......
    Bicycle == Vehicle

    If I leave my Jeep at the Park 'n' Ride for too long the city will tow it away and sell it at auction (or, in the case of my crapwagon, probably just scrap it.) Does that mean someone has the right to take off with it before the city removes it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky53s View Post
    I understand not taking a Hummer, or a bike that is identified as someone's, but the city will cut the chain soon and put it in the trash. I hardly compare it to taking a vehicle......
    So what if the Hummer had been there for a long time? Don't abandoned cars get cleared away sooner or later?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 View Post
    One of my neighbours hasn't driven his H2 anywhere for almost a month. It's all dusty, and the battery is probably dead. Can someone "liberate" it and give it some TLC?
    I'm sure when he's back from training camp with the local football team, he'll thank you for your good natured efforts.
    If he left it on the street around here for a month it definitely would not be waiting for him when he got back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 View Post
    Bicycle == Vehicle

    If I leave my Jeep at the Park 'n' Ride for too long the city will tow it away and sell it at auction (or, in the case of my crapwagon, probably just scrap it.) Does that mean someone has the right to take off with it before the city removes it?
    The city here doesn't clear away derelict bikes, like they do cars. Another example of the lack of comparability of the two.

    A lot of weird bikes turn up at my kids' school and they sit (usually unlocked) for a variable period before vanishing. I am pretty sure they are all stolen (joyrides most likely). I don't know about the ones downtown that sit indefinitely (locked up). Don't know if they're also stolen (but locked), the remnants of an epic 'dude where's my bike' night on the town, or what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    If he left it on the street around here for a month it definitely would not be waiting for him when he got back.
    Depending on where you're talking about, it might not be there if he left it for an hour while he stopped in at the bar. For that matter, neither would our bikes!
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