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    OK, I REALLY need some help with this TV antenna.... I mean really... pleeeease

    There is a TV channel called Qubo. Is supposedly transmitting from around 60 miles Melbourne FL (I'm in Orlando), on the digital channel "56.2".

    I "discover" this channel by accident when trying to improve my TV reception in the living room, I combined 3 cheap indoor antennas, hooked them up to an amplifier and voila, I discover Qubo after the first "channel scan".

    It's a kids channel and my kido's LOVE it. But reception is very poor and the picture stops all the time.

    Being a DIY'rselfer, I tried to do a "coat hanger" antenna like this guy shows on this video.

    I ended up with kinda a monstrosity (pics will follow tomorrow) that picks up most channels but no Qubo. I have 42 effin' elements in different sizes. As I added different sized elements, different channels started to show up.

    As of now, I'm still having trouble with the ones in the 40-50 range... And of course, Qubo on 56.2

    I KNOW there are some really bored engineers out there. If you could please figure out what size do I need to cut the elements for better reception of the 56.2 I would appreciate it lots lots lots.

    I don't even know what is the Mhz I'm hunting for... but I desperately want to receive this Qubo channel.
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    A little update.... according to this page, the channel "56" is supposed to be in between 722-728Mhz and is in the UHF band.

    Also, this page has something very similar to what I'm trying to do, except that I don't have the tinfoil.
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    Drive around looking for a house that still has the old style TV antenna still mounted. Ask them if they are using it and offer to take it down for them "as a safety issue not to attract lightning."

    I have one of those in my attic (thanks to HOA rules) from pre-cable days. Too much trouble to remove it, so it stayed - and good during hurricaines as cable is the last to be repaired since the electrical they lease the poles from needs to be done first.

    Last year, had a digitation problem that took Brighthouse several trips to resolve. Turns out, the tuner on the old CRT in the bedroom was backfeeding electrical current into the cable system, actually shocking the technician when he was troubleshooting. Apparently, that is a major problem as backfeed can affect neighbor's reception and they have no idea where coming from until the problem house calls in a service request.

    On a fluke, with the bedroom line disconnected resolving the cable issue, connected it to the antenna (and one of thosse 'free' converter boxes). Amazingly, I was pulling in stations from Daytona, Melbourne, everywhere - when in the analog days would only pull in ch2. Didn't check for 56.2 as was amazed that pulling in so many. Since bought a new TV and back on cable, but keeping the antenna as hurricaine backup.

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    You want a big-@ss antenna on the roof. Easily 10x the signal strength of puny indoor units. Mount it ass high as possible and aimed at the tower that's broadcasting your show. They have remote-controlled ones so that you can spin it around to get optimum reception for each of your favourite stations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
    You want a big-@ss antenna on the roof. Easily 10x the signal strength of puny indoor units. Mount it ass high as possible and aimed at the tower that's broadcasting your show. They have remote-controlled ones so that you can spin it around to get optimum reception for each of your favourite stations.
    Relatively speaking?

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    Clearly you need to stop playing with the TV antennae and so what you do best... I think we all know what that is.
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    Yes on the roof-mounted ant.

    But at my house I just use an amplified ant. with the gain turned all the way up. Not sure if the gain cranked is necessary, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
    Clearly you need to stop playing with the TV antennae and so what you do best... I think we all know what that is.

    Hey, he is trying to tune in tokyo, as it were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    Hey, he is trying to tune in tokyo, as it were.
    He is trying to breed often enough to start a cult is what he's doing.

    What if he's asking our help to build a transmitter?
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    I will be worried when he takes apart a speakandspell and an old pushbutton wired phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    I will be worried when he takes apart a speakandspell and an old pushbutton wired phone.
    Who knows... maybe he already has.
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    have you consider streaming live over the interwebz?
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    Have you played with the antenna location and orientation? One place I lived, with the antenna in one spot I picked up two channels. If I moved it across the room and turned it about 70 degrees I got three different channels.
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    check craiglist for a db8 and stick it on the roof. http://www.antennasdirect.com/store/...furbished.html
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    Sorry that I owe you the pics. You would love to have a look at the mess I have on the table right now. Not the kitchen table tho. As you might guess, the pregnant cohabitant has lay down some rules and boundaries... anyway, the den's table is the current project and experimentation area...

    I had no progress today. I stayed up all night last night doing research and was too tired to get anything done today. Plus it was raining so no chance of playing with the antenna on the roof (I know somebody is gonna twist that statement).

    There are 2 current contraptions being tested. One is bolted to the bedroom's ceiling where pregnant cohabitant is sleeping, hence no pics atm. The 2nd one is small and unimpressive, but will picture it later. You will see!

    After my research, it seems my best for getting that Qubo channel from Melbourne is to make a directional Yagi antenna pointed that way. As soon as I find out how to build the thing (measurements and stuff) I shall try that.

    All I know if that if I persevere, I shall succeed. Thou shall all be amazed when I finish constructing the Rube's HangerMeister 2011 (TM). It's gonna be a mix of Rabit Ear/Yagi designs and it's gonna have like 2000 hangers in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
    I had no progress today. I stayed up all night last night doing research and was too tired to get anything done today. Plus it was raining so no chance of playing with the antenna on the roof (I know somebody is gonna twist that statement).
    Uh, Rube, we didn't mean to put a regular antenna on the roof. I think we all meant to get an antenna that is made specifically go to on the roof.

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    Forget the damn television.Take the kids out and play some street-hockey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonataInFSharp View Post
    Uh, Rube, we didn't mean to put a regular antenna on the roof. I think we all meant to get an antenna that is made specifically go to on the roof.
    No, we meant strip down, wrap yourself in tin foil (however you see fit - princess lea bikini is acceptable), shove one end of a coaxial cable up your ass, attach the other to the tv, climb on the roof, and dance until your reception comes in. Then find that pose and hold it until your kids outgrow Qubo.

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    .....or untill the lightning zaps his wick.
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    Yeah, but that'll only improve the reception with all that extra energy running through the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spry View Post
    Forget the damn television.Take the kids out and play some street-hockey.
    That would be difficult because we have no ice on the street. Plus not being Canucks we would probably suck at it even more than at receiving TV signals.

    Again, no luck today, I was to tired. But I shall not give in until I get that Qubo channel!
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    You play street hockey with a ball, and no ice.

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    I'm down in St. Pete and I get all three of the local Ion/Qubo channels, for me 66.1. 66.2 and 66.3. With Qubo being in the middle. The only real problem that I have is that I have a tendency to "loose" certain channels depending on the weather or sunspot activity. Or even after watching a channel for several hours to have it suddenly and without warning drop it's signal on me.

    That and it doesn't hurt that most of the station's transmitters are to the southeast of me and one or two are to the north of me.

    Add to that that I live in an apartment so erecting an external antenna is a no-no, and that I am living on a fixed income I can't afford either cable or satellite service. So my only option is an indoor antenna.

    I also find that some days besides changing the the orientation of my antenna, that I also have to move it to a different location. I have also found that even though the "logical" place to put an antenna i.e. on or near the TV set doesn't work, and that I have to locate it in my bedroom.

    It would have been nice if Congress and the FCC had given more thought to what the common man would have to go through to watch over the air TV service. I'd called one time to complain about all the reception problems that I have had and the gal that I spoke with actually had the nerve to tell me that I would have to learn to live without TV or some channels.

    Ain't that a kick in the ass?

    But no kids, and I love Qubo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
    That would be difficult because we have no ice on the street.
    Oh, Ruben....

    Do you think we have ice-covered streets in the winter, Ruben?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy View Post
    ...
    But no kids, and I love Qubo.
    Well.. yeah I really like the Qubo channel too, by myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by SonataInFSharp View Post
    Oh, Ruben....

    Do you think we have ice-covered streets in the winter, Ruben?
    Oh yes... everything above FL is ice country... in fact even north FL is considered a frozen thundra by Rube' standards.
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