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Old 11-11-04, 07:57 PM   #1
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Burton snowboards

I noticed that a lot of you snowboard, so someone should know this. Last year I bought a Ride Control, It was a 2003 model, so I got it for $210. I choose to ignor the fact that it's not very good, because the price was perfect. I suffered for a year, to me the Control has an awful ride and feel. So this year I'm buying a new one, and I've narrowed it down to a Burton 7 or a Burton Custom. These two boards are pretty main stream so I figured someone might own one, or at least have tried one. The 7 is signifigantly less money, but I don't want such a park oriented board. Any suggestions?
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i own a burton BMC myself. its a very sweet board. it will do just about anything i ask it to. from what i'm told, its a very similar ride to the custom. when i went shopping for my board, i was looking at buying the custom, but the store had the BMC on closeout, since it is a discontinued board. i think if you end up gettin a custom, you'll be very pleased. of course, some people consider burton to be a poser brand...like trek or whatever is for bikes ...but thats an argument for another forum
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Demo a Burton first to make sure it is your board that's "not very good".
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seriously,
i would stay away from burton. i worked in the ski snowboard industry for 5 years. burton is notorious for poor quality construction. i would say about 80% of the boards that came through our shops were borderline or completely untuneable because the base becomes concave. the edges stick out past the base of the board, so they can't go on a stone grinding machine. the ride may be good but, once the base wears out, unless you can get a shop to use a rilling bar, good bye...it's like a glass with cold water on a smooth table...it gets "stuck".

the 2 manufacturers i would HIGHLY recommend are Salomon and Volkl. Construction method are very similar resulting in very responsive and snappy boards. typically you'll end up with a base high board over time, so it will be MUCH easier to get tuned. also, Volkl goes out of their way with their wood. they have their own forest which was (not sure if this is the right term) horticultered to yield wood with much less knots and what not. A little bit more expensive for Volkl, but definitely worth it.

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Never Summer makes great boards as well.
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I would say go with a Forum deck or Nitros deck or a Rome deck.
All their decks this year are pretty slick.


And I would stay away from Burton for boards and bindings.
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seriously,
i would stay away from burton. i worked in the ski snowboard industry for 5 years. burton is notorious for poor quality construction. i would say about 80% of the boards that came through our shops were borderline or completely untuneable because the base becomes concave. the edges stick out past the base of the board, so they can't go on a stone grinding machine. the ride may be good but, once the base wears out, unless you can get a shop to use a rilling bar, good bye...it's like a glass with cold water on a smooth table...it gets "stuck".

the 2 manufacturers i would HIGHLY recommend are Salomon and Volkl. Construction method are very similar resulting in very responsive and snappy boards. typically you'll end up with a base high board over time, so it will be MUCH easier to get tuned. also, Volkl goes out of their way with their wood. they have their own forest which was (not sure if this is the right term) horticultered to yield wood with much less knots and what not. A little bit more expensive for Volkl, but definitely worth it.

hope this helps

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Wow, I thought Burtons were good. If I do go with Burton, what are the chances of the base concaving? And if it were to do so, would it be useless, or could I still ride it?

[Edit] Here's a better question, how long would it take before the base would concave?
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Old 11-12-04, 05:56 PM   #8
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DOH! I just bought a burton baron...
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Wow, I thought Burtons were good. If I do go with Burton, what are the chances of the base concaving? And if it were to do so, would it be useless, or could I still ride it?

[Edit] Here's a better question, how long would it take before the base would concave?
Heres a hint, everyone has their pick. I know people that say the exact same thing as him about Salomon. It varries from retailer to retailer. Go into 10 shops and you will be left with nothing to buy because everybody else thinks everything else sucks. Very funny industry to work around thats for sure, more cat and mouse than bikes. In fact, due to 'hype' value, locals here do not ride salomon, don't wanna ruin their reputation as core riders hahaha

Personally, because of my size, I like Never summer and Prior. They are the only two companies that make boards wide enough to fit my feet in a 15 x -15 degree stance.
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Why can't you stone grind a railed board to make it flat again?

Most snowboards are pretty good. Ride Control, Burton Custom, etc. Get one that is just wide enough to accomendate your boots at your desired stance angles with only a little overhang. Get a long one if you like to cruise, shorter if you want to do spinning tricks. Stiff if you are heavy and/or ride mostly hardpack, softer flex for light weight rider, powder.

The brand doesn't matter that much, Ride makes good boards as does Burton. Arbor boards are beautiful, Gerry Lopez are supposed to be real nice, I think Lib Tech boards are cool, but any board that is the right width and length and stiffness will work fine.
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i'm not saying the ride is bad at all. it's just what happens to the board over time. Burton has a tendency to go concave
Salomon/Volkl has a tendency to go convex
alot of shops will not do a full tune on a concave board because the edge will grind into the stone and create gouges, and each stone runs anywhere from $1200 to $5000 a piece. high edges will kill the stone VERY quickly. every time the stone is gouged, it needs to be re-dressed, or else the next board or ski that goes over it will have a nice line of base that doesn't get hit and would not be optimal.

that being said, yes, all boards will eventually become "deformed". no 2 boards are created equal. salomon will TYPICALLY become convex. volkl will TYPICALLY become convex. Burton will TYPICALLY become concave. That's not saying ALL of them will follow that pattern. anyhow, good luck with your search
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I agree with Maelstrom. The snowboarding world is MUCH more concerned with fashion and hype than most other sports/activities. Melloboy seems to know what he's talking about, but I've known a lot of very happy Burton riders. I say try a few out and go with whatever one feels best to you. Most shops around here let you demo their boards for a rental price, and then if you end up buying from them they'll deduct all the cash you spent on their rentals for the buy price.
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One of my good friends bought a burton custum online for about $80 dollars...lol...It didn't tell him it was 10 years old and beat to h-e-double hockey sticks. Also, it had a picture of shaft on it. Pretty kewl. Not.
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I just bought the Custom with Burton Mission bindings. it came to a total of $470 with trade in. That's a good deal for a $500 board with $160 bindings. If it concaves, no big deal, Ill buy a new board.
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