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Old 12-05-04, 01:58 PM   #1
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Perverse fascination with closed threads

Why is it that when I see a thread has been closed I just HAVE to read it?!
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It's like a car wreck. You just have to look.

I found myself looking at the now locked Bothersome but tolerable thread. I was like a crash investigator going into the dirty details to see where everything went wrong. I just HAD to read through all the pages to get everyone's perspectives down. Really weird.
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Old 12-05-04, 05:59 PM   #5
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I admit it. I do it too.

I'm so ashamed
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Old 12-05-04, 07:55 PM   #6
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It's like a car wreck. You just have to look.

I found myself looking at the now locked Bothersome but tolerable thread. I was like a crash investigator going into the dirty details to see where everything went wrong. I just HAD to read through all the pages to get everyone's perspectives down. Really weird.
That is the very thread I was just thinking about. One wrong comment was all it took to send everything spiraling into disaster. Maybe it is just the amateur wanna-be psycho anylist in me that just HAS to look :-)
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I know that on USENET especially and on some threads here there seems to be an unstoppable degradation of the thread. On USENET, someone might post

"I had a nice ride today" and then get the response,

"What do you mean "nice." What is your definition of a "nice" ride. And then

"Why are you questioning what I mean by "nice." When I say "nice" I mean "nice" and nothing more or less.

And on and on. About this time I put a filter on the thread. Sometimes these things go on for 200+ posts. For example, "Just a Reminder we need Bike Lanes" got 198 responses and is still going (it is on my filter).

Edit: I now realize that the thread has been subdivided by Google and actually has 397 posts!

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...bicycles.rides

Which is why I like a moderated forum!

What I don't understand is WHY? Are folks just seeking attention? Are they very unhappy in their life? Can't figure it out.

Bob, you were once an owner of a great bicycle forum. What do you think?

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Old 12-05-04, 08:36 PM   #8
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I know that on USENET especially and on some threads here there seems to be an unstoppable degradation of the thread.
The death of Dejanews pretty much made me stop watching that particular train-wreck, for which I am thankful. I don't know how people like Krygowski (sp?) and Burdett et al can persist in posting the same crap over and over again, year after year.

But yes, locked threads do pique my curiosity. Threads that generate two pages of responses before I even see them are the same though (I usually visit at least once a day).

To be honest, I'm glad that thread was locked before I finished formulating my response. I'm afraid it may have turned into something of an epic.
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The death of Dejanews pretty much made me stop watching that particular train-wreck, for which I am thankful. I don't know how people like Krygowski (sp?) and Burdett et al can persist in posting the same crap over and over again, year after year.

But yes, locked threads do pique my curiosity. Threads that generate two pages of responses before I even see them are the same though (I usually visit at least once a day).

To be honest, I'm glad that thread was locked before I finished formulating my response. I'm afraid it may have turned into something of an epic.
Oh, what pleasure - a response from ALLISTER - truly one of the most creative thinkers on this forum. Always has a distinctive take on life, which I greatly appreciate.

And, the creator of a home designed LED light! (How goes that?)
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To be honest, I'm glad that thread was locked before I finished formulating my response. I'm afraid it may have turned into something of an epic.
Come on Allister. You have your fans. Don't let the opportunity pass. Just one guest posting here (likely close this thread, too, but who cares).
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Come on Allister. You have your fans. Don't let the opportunity pass. Just one guest posting here (likely close this thread, too, but who cares).
Nah. I wouldn't want to dispell the illusion of the cherub-like demeanor that I have been cultivating here over the years. Let's just say that 'til death do us part' is looking more tempting by the day.
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Old 12-05-04, 11:25 PM   #13
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only reason i liked usenet were the flamewars.

After a while it got amusing jsut to find someone being a troll and seeing how badly i can tick them off. My record in angering trolls (normally they like the attention...) was when I was arguing with someone from england and I started talking smack about their "misspellings" of words (the old british va american english debate...woo!), and that this newsgroup was founded by an american, thus use american english. That was also email death threat number 100-something....which got them a reply back asking if they needed assistance in securing airline tickets to perform this act....needless to say after that email said troll stopped
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only reason i liked usenet were the flamewars.
It's the only reason it exists isn't it? I used to get into some too. It's fun for a while, but I prefer the inane chit-chat we get here any day of the week.

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After a while it got amusing jsut to find someone being a troll and seeing how badly i can tick them off. My record in angering trolls (normally they like the attention...) was when I was arguing with someone from england and I started talking smack about their "misspellings" of words (the old british va american english debate...woo!), and that this newsgroup was founded by an american, thus use american english. That was also email death threat number 100-something....which got them a reply back asking if they needed assistance in securing airline tickets to perform this act....needless to say after that email said troll stopped
True trollers don't get angry - they're carriers. A true troller plants a seed post, and sits back and watches the arguments bloom. What you're describing above is just your run-of-the-mill argumentative prick, of which usenet is rife. True trollers are a joy to behold, and a species worth preserving.
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True trollers don't get angry - they're carriers. A true troller plants a seed post, and sits back and watches the arguments bloom. What you're describing above is just your run-of-the-mill argumentative prick, of which usenet is rife. True trollers are a joy to behold, and a species worth preserving.
Like Kathleen and that gun thread. One post, and she sat back to watch it all unfold in front of her to what? Four pages. Good troll, bad subject...
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well some of the old usenet groups were pretty nice. The audio groups in general sucked though....car audio was filled with people who only listen to what the magazines hawk (OMG 32" sub OMG OMG...despite it's mass being so high that it couldnt produce over 50hz, and the required box for it ate up a major part of a cargo van)....and the home audio nuts were drooling over speaker cables that cost more than some cars....needless to say those groups were wack.

The computer gaming groups were okay until the spammers got hold of em. Actually I think spam killed usenet. Every new group I went to I had to filter out thousands of spammers....it was disgusting.....

I mean when you cant even look for quality porn without getting off-topic pornspam..that's just sad.
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Like Kathleen and that gun thread. One post, and she sat back to watch it all unfold in front of her to what? Four pages. Good troll, bad subject...
Hard to say, given some of the responses in other threads I saw from Kathleen. It's entirely possible she may have been genuinely offended by some of the vitriol, assuming that gun thread had been the same as any of the others that have appeared on these forums (I stopped reading that one quite early in the piece). And let's face it, gun threads are one of those "free kick" trolls. I mean, anyone just has to type "gun" into the search box to see that a gun troll (much like a helmet troll) is guaranteed a certain number of replies, no matter how obvious the troll.

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The death of Dejanews pretty much made me stop watching that particular train-wreck, for which I am thankful. I don't know how people like Krygowski (sp?) and Burdett et al can persist in posting the same crap over and over again, year after year.
I could never quite get into USENET for some reason. It could be that we already had Cyber Cyclery and Bicycleforum by the time I got online in 1999. Although some of the trolls there just seemed a little too obvious to really interest me all that much (see my point about the gun trolls above). As far as posting the same crap goes, it's amazing just how many people think that posting something on a board like this will actually change the world. Heck, I was naive enough to think like that at one point, although thankfully it didn't quite take me five years to figure it out.

Speaking of trolls, I actually find the really poor trolls somewhat amusing. I expended about five or six posts prodding Kenneth Vaughan with a stick on this forum a few months back -- mainly because his strange way of mingling the English language gave me a morbid fascination. I've since gone into the archives of the bike-qld list and laughed at him getting owned in attempting those trolls there at points in the past. Yes, I know, I need a girlfriend.
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It's like a car wreck. You just have to look.

I found myself looking at the now locked Bothersome but tolerable thread. I was like a crash investigator going into the dirty details to see where everything went wrong. I just HAD to read through all the pages to get everyone's perspectives down. Really weird.
Am I the only one here who can go past a car wreck and not feel like "looking"? I don't mean feeling disgusted or feeling that it's somehow "wrong" to look, I mean just generally not being that excited about it. Perhaps they just happen too often around here for me to really be surprised. Now for some obligatory on-topic content -- I actually don't feel any compulsion to look at closed threads anymore. I did once upon a time. Just not anymore. Maybe I've just seen to many of them, too.
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I dunno, but when I drove, if there was a huge wreck tieing me up, I wanted to know if someone died or not....because someone had better have if traffic has been reduced to one car a minute through there.
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Am I the only one here who can go past a car wreck and not feel like "looking"? I don't mean feeling disgusted or feeling that it's somehow "wrong" to look, I mean just generally not being that excited about it. Perhaps they just happen too often around here for me to really be surprised. Now for some obligatory on-topic content -- I actually don't feel any compulsion to look at closed threads anymore. I did once upon a time. Just not anymore. Maybe I've just seen to many of them, too.
I'm usually the guy trying to maintain my speed while passing an accident(given that there's enough clearance, etc.)--whether I'm going somewhere important or not. I think the gawkers tend to make an accident scene that much more unsafe. Sure, I'll glance at the carnage or whatnot out there, but it's mainly to make sure that it's nothing I have to worry about while I'm driving by(y'know--explosions, rabid chickens or whatever). If I'm not the first person on the scene and everything's under control, it's just another bit of roadside scenery to me. I got things to see and people to do!

Now, on-topic: To read or not to read closed threads? Depends on the title. If that hooks me then the first few posts will decide it for me. I'd say the advocacy threads hold my interest more that anything else, tho(not that they're closed or anything). Well, advocacy and foo, that is.
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I dunno, but when I drove, if there was a huge wreck tieing me up, I wanted to know if someone died or not....because someone had better have if traffic has been reduced to one car a minute through there.
I have to somewhat agree with you here. Luckily, my driving habits/needs don't put me in areas where this situation occurs very often. Get into a Stau on the Autobahn and feel true frustration for several hours(although I've heard one can sample this on the west coast of the U.S., as well).
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Heh, rush hour in silicon valley pre dot-com crash.

Took me over an hour to go a mile. When a turtle gives you a dirty look as they are passing you...that's just wrong.
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