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Old 11-04-11, 09:38 AM   #1
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Healthy eating - is it worth it???

This was the question I was pondering this morning as I was eating my flax-bread toast. Somewhere in my 30's we switched from the delicious, albeit pud-like white bread that I love ... to gross tasting, dried out whole wheat or flax bread. Sure I want to live a long and healthy life, but is eating healthy, gross tasting foods worth it?

Other examples of foods I switched over to gross-tasting healthier options are: delicious sugary cereals to those healthier grainy choices, reduced salt bacon , etc, etc, etc.

At what point is living a longer life worth it?
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reduced salt bacon?
Are you crazy?
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reduced salt bacon?
Are you crazy?
Apparently.
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The key is to balance things out. If you really like salty bacon, have some, but save it as a treat to have once a month or once a week or something.
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Of course it's worth it.

I eat/drink a delicious protein shake every morning. Fruit, Almond milk, oatmeal, flax seed, casein protein.
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"Eat food,
Not too much,
Mostly plants"
I can't remember who first said that.

If you eat food that you put together yourself it's better, and cheaper in the long run, then the prepackaged stuff. If I'm going to have soup, I'd rather not eat/pay for stuff that gives it a longer shelf life.
You don't have to eat cardboard, just cut down on the pork fat sandwiches.
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Of course it's worth it.

I eat/drink a delicious protein shake every morning. Fruit, Almond milk, oatmeal, flax seed, casein protein.
ok...this explains a lot.
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ok...this explains a lot.
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I can't remember who first said that.
Michael Pollan. I don't agree with all he writes about but this is a gem.

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delicious sugary cereals to those healthier grainy choices
Ooh, hate to do this to you, but all cereal, even the branny type stuff with all those health claims on the front, is junk. They basically take everything that's good out, add sugar and powdered vitamins and fiber, and call it healthy. A better choice is oatmeal.
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Simple sugar is evil. The only time it has any benefit is during a high intensity workout where you need a quick pick me up. Beyond that it should be minimized in one's diet.

If you want to live a more miserable and shorter life then go ahead and eat food that is worthless nutritionally wise.
For me I like having a low body fat percentage, a ton of energy, and being able to eat quite a bit. Though my choices in foods nowadays would probably bore everyone to death.
That being said, I still will not give up my one beer a week.
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Switch from bacon to fresh side. Fresh side is uncured bacon. Salt, pepper, and lightly flour it, then fry it in a little veg oil. Darn good stuff. It will satisfy your bacon fix with out the chemicals. Still not low-fat, though.
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Does all this healthy food really make you live longer, or does it just seem longer?
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Does all this healthy food really make you live longer, or does it just seem longer?
That's my question. My parents have always eaten proper portions of food, but they always bought normal white bread, bacon, etc. They are in fantastic health / shape in their 70's.
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Most bread was made with LARD, that's why it was soft and moist. Plus no preservatives, so you only made enough bread for 1 or 2 days.

http://breadbaking.about.com/od/batt...colsallunn.htm
This old recipe for Sally Lunn bread was traditionally made with lard, but shortening can be easily substituted for the lard. The bread is baked in a 10-inch tube pan, giving it its beautiful shape.
Yield: 1 round loaf

Prep Time: 2 hours

Cook Time: 45 minutes

Total Time: 2 hours, 45 minutes

Ingredients:
  • 1/2 cup warm water, 90 to 110 degrees F
  • 2-1/4 tsp or 1 pkg. (1/4 oz.) active dry yeast
  • 1-1/2 cups milk, room temperature
  • 3 large eggs, lightly beaten
  • 1/4 cup lard or shortening
  • 2 Tbsp sugar
  • 1 tsp salt
  • 6 cups bread flour
Preparation:
  1. In large bowl, stir warm water and yeast until yeast is dissolved. Add milk, eggs, lard, sugar, salt, and 3 cups of flour. Mix well. Mix in the remaining 3 cups of flour to make a wet dough. Cover bowl with plastic wrap and let rise in warm, draft-free place for 1 hour or until double in bulk.
  2. Remove plastic wrap and stir down dough. Scrape dough into greased 10-inch round tube pan. Pat down dough in pan so that it is even. Cover with plastic wrap and let rise in warm, draft-free place for about 45 minutes or until double in bulk.
  3. Bake at 350 degrees F for 45 minutes or until golden brown and the bread sounds hollow when tapped. Turn bread out from tube pan immediately and let cool on rack. Can be served at dinner, warm or cold.
This is pretty close to the bread recipe my Great Aunt made. She baked every-other day, in a woodfired stove w/double oven.
You could smell the fresh bread all the way out to the barn.

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That's my question. My parents have always eaten proper portions of food, but they always bought normal white bread, bacon, etc. They are in fantastic health / shape in their 70's.
Pretty sure genes and activity play a huge role in health.
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As someone who went from a diet high in sugar and salt to one with remarkably less of each, I can say that yes, it is worth it.

Lost 106 pounds so far, but let's put that part aside and look at the other aspects.


As it turns out, the large amount of sugar and salt in my diet was actually killing my taste buds. Things would taste like crap if it didn't have a lot of either of those in it. The first few weeks of low-sugar/low-salt were dreadful, as everything tasted dull.

But after a few weeks, my taste buds made a recovery. Suddenly I was tasting flavors that I had forgotten about or never realised even existed in the first place. After years of blasting my palette with salt and sugar I had desensitized myself to a point where I needed lots of salt or sugar to make things taste "good". I went out and bought a lot of spices, all of which taste wonderful now.

Totally worth it.


BTW, wheat bread tastes awesome. Stop eating that white crap. You'll wonder why you ever ate white in the first place once you get used to it.
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Does all this healthy food really make you live longer, or does it just seem longer?
Don't know about longer... yet, but I do feel a lot better.
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Whole wheat bread does not have to be dried out and gross. Maybe you need to try another brand.

I eat healthy cereal for breakfast and put fresh fruit on the top. The fruit is sweet enough that I don't need extra sugar.

I eat chocolate just about every day, but it's small amounts and not a boatload of it. Everything in moderation.
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Does all this healthy food really make you live longer, or does it just seem longer?

No clue but I feel much better and happier as a result. 36 years old and I feel better than when I was 18 (for the most part).
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I think you need to find a local bakery.
and stick your unused fresh bread in the freezer.
don't forget to stick some baking soda in the freezer, unless you want the bread to taste like fridge.
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Expensive healthy food should taste better than cheap unhealthy food. If it doesn't the law of demand and supply should take care of the matter.
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Pretty sure genes and activity play a huge role in health.
And not getting run over by a bus.
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And not getting run over by a bus.
Well that's a pretty good rule of thumb to go by regardless of what you eat.
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Most bread was made with LARD, that's why it was soft and moist. Plus no preservatives, so you only made enough bread for 1 or 2 days.


This is pretty close to the bread recipe my Great Aunt made. She baked every-other day, in a woodfired stove w/double oven.
You could smell the fresh bread all the way out to the barn.
Sounds tasty. But I'm afraid I'm not much of a baker. I did however email this recipe to my wife ... just in case she's feeling generous
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No clue but I feel much better and happier as a result. 36 years old and I feel better than when I was 18 (for the most part).
I would have to wonder how much of this is because of your active lifestyle vs your diet???

I'm not saying I want to go all out and binge on junk food, I'm just not sure I need to eat 'healthy' foods that I can't stand the taste of, just in the hopes I'll be healthier and live longer. I still eat my veggies and fruit ... because I like the taste
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