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Old 11-21-11, 11:16 PM   #1
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Kindle DX or Ipad?

I'm looking for an e-reader for books and scientific papers, and I'm debating between the Kindle DX and Ipad. The e-ink screen on the Kindle is suppose to be ideal for extensive reading, but the Ipad will have more versatility I think. The DX runs just under $400.

Anyone have opinions on these?
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Old 11-22-11, 12:27 AM   #2
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I would go for the iPad. I am not an Apple fan(Actually I hate all their computers). The iPad is such a useful device, so many different applications. And now that the price is a little lower it is a killer deal. Just get the WiFi version no point of paying for 3G.
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Old 11-22-11, 12:38 AM   #3
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kindle DX has better fidelity due to the e-ink.
They're both magazine sized and heavy.
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Have you considered the kindle fire as well?

I respect the Ipad and I think it serves a place in the world for some people, however since I already own an Iphone and a laptop I think those two devices are distinct enough to cover the needs of an Ipad for me.

I got my kindle 3G as an early Christmas gift from my family because where I live I have trouble procuring things I want to read and mobility is a huge issue.It fits nicely in my electronic collection because it doesn't duplicate other features and provides a unique skillset. For scientific papers I could see it really being a great device, but I have to say that PDF navigation can be a less than satisfactory (I think the size of the DX would fix that though). I also worry that if I got an Ipad i would do less reading then I wanted and more Angry birds/movies/whatever else

just a few ideas I thought I'd share.
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I am personally a big fan of the iPad myself. I tend to like devices that can do a lot of things
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This might be a dumb question to you, but if all you really intend to do with either is read then why not get the original kindle instead? Cheaper long battery life and it's great for just plain reading.. but hey that's just my .02
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why not get the original kindle instead?
The DX is made for scientific papers. I'm not sure how functional an original kindle would be for that task.
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The DX is made for scientific papers. I'm not sure how functional an original kindle would be for that task.
the original kindle operates the same and would work okay. I get a few peer-reviewed journals on my 3G and find it works pretty well, but graphics and PDFs (as I said before) can be difficult to manage. I could see the benefit of a larger screen for such material if you come across it frequently on your research readings. If you come across someone who owns a kindle in your area, it doesn't hurt to ask them about it. All my friends let me play with theirs before I ever wanted one. People seem pretty happy to share their kindle experience IMO
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Do you read these papers linearly? Beginning to end? Kindle.

Do you skip around? search for things? iPad.
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I'm not keen on the iPad. This is why.
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I'm thinking the Kindle Fire. It's much cheaper and does most of what I would want...
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I'm not keen on the iPad. This is why.
Good luck finding a tablet that doesn't use something from Foxconn in it.

Foxconn manufacturers just about all of the little ports on your phone, tablet, or whatever. That PC you're typing on likely has Foxconn ports in it.
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Good luck finding a tablet that doesn't use something from Foxconn in it.

Foxconn manufacturers just about all of the little ports on your phone, tablet, or whatever. That PC you're typing on likely has Foxconn ports in it.
Foxconn is also a competitor. We make all the little ports, tabs, connectors, circuit protection devices, touch screens, antennas, et cetera for your phone/tablet/pc/washer/dryer/airplane/car . While what you say is true, our vendor list is chosen, in part, by who uses our products.

We don't assemble consumer devices, as Foxconn does.
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I should also mention that several former coworkers and personal friends of mine are Foxconn employees.
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In the past I used a 6" Sony Reader for journals. It worked pretty well since it had a scaling zoom in addition to font increasing. The images were fine in ACS and sciencedirect.com pdf articles unlike the images in most ebooks. Lately, I have switched to using a 10" Xoom since I read less articles.

E-ink is definitely more comfortable. I haven't seen a journal article on the Kindle DX, but if the text is the same size as on paper it will be very easy to use. If you are going to be reading a large amount of article for a literature review, I would go with the Kindle DX or eink in general.

Another option would be a Sony reader. The zoom function is great for PDF. You could toss a PDF article on an sdcard and check it out at any consumer electronic store. Since many journals have two columns per page it works well to have the font a bit bigger and split the page into 4 sections.
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Maybe I'll try the $100 kindle.
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They all have their good and bad points. The ipad and some of the more elaborate android tablets are large and expensive, have low battery life, and are hard to use in the sun. The original Kindle and Nook are good in the sun, have long battery life, are small, but aren't good with graphics. The nook and kindle tablets are small and light, and not so expensive.

My wife has both nooks, and uses hers mostly for reading books. I want an ipad myself, even though I'm not an apple fan either, but it is too expensive for me.
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I'm surprised you consider the ipad to have a low battery life. I've got a first generation ipad, and the battery charge lasts forever ... or at least it seems to.
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I would caution you from going with a 6" Kindle for pdf files. They haven't always played well with each other in the past, but maybe things have improved.
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Personally I prefer a laptop, lets me work as well as read, but here are some of the limitations of the ipad. Kindle might be similar, so not sure if it's any use to you.

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Personally I prefer a laptop, lets me work as well as read, but here are some of the limitations of the ipad. Kindle might be similar, so not sure if it's any use to you.

Mostly incorrect.
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Try finding a laptop that does all that for $250.
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I'm not keen on the iPad. This is why.
Amazon also is a customer of Foxconn.
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Try finding a laptop that does all that for $250.
There were plenty of Acer AO522, with all of the above features, on sale for $230~250.
the AO522 has HDMI out, dual core, 720p playback and more.

However, it has a junk screen.

Right now you can buy kindle fire or playbooks for $200 and they have good screens.

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Personally I prefer a laptop, lets me work as well as read, but here are some of the limitations of the ipad. Kindle might be similar, so not sure if it's any use to you.
Outdated and although you can use a cheap netbook as an e-reader, the poor viewing angles will really strain eyes. Honestly, the author of that image just doesn't get it.
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There were plenty of Acer AO522, with all of the above features, on sale for $230~250.
the AO522 has HDMI out, dual core, 720p playback and more.
The processor is only 1 Ghz. lol
But wow I didn't know you cold get all that for so little money.
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