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Snicklefritz 11-27-11 12:05 PM

Help me pick a new digital piano
 
I think I'm going to be in the market for a new digital piano in the very near future (as in this year) and would be interested in suggestions.

My Korg is oh probably 15+ years old but has some issues that a couple of Foosters gave me suggestions on how to fix. I've been picking at it, but it may be a tougher job than I previously thought. However, work has been good this year and I may be able to use part of my bonus to do some serious upgrades. :)

Here are some key criteria:
1) Touch response is my number one priority. I play mostly classical music and am used to heavier actions of traditional pianos. I'd like something that mimics the feel of a heavy action as much as possible with some pressure/volume response.
2) Quality piano sound.
3) Full size keyboard.
4) Not too difficult to move around.

Things that would be nice to have but not that important:
1) It might be nice to have a couple of built in sounds like harpsichord and pipe organ. Beyond that I don't need a lot of fancy sounds since I will probably never use them.
2) Built-in recording capability.


I will eventually buy a small grand or an upright when I buy my own place in a year or so and can match the instrument to the size of the space. Right now I'm living in a townhouse and find I like to practice at odd hours or for more hours than my neighbors probably want to listen to, especially when 1 hour of it might be finger exercises. :lol:

What digital pianos have the most realistic feel? I loved the Korg I had but found it probably could have had a heavier action. It did fairly well for Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Rachmaninoff, etc. However, I found it difficult to do a reasonable interpretation of anything impressionistic on it (ie Debussy) due to the way the pedals and sound decay worked.

I would welcome any suggestions that fellow Foosters have.


By the way, not to hijack my own thread, but I did order the saddle and went for the dark brown. Pics will be posted tomorrow after I try it on horsie.

redirekib 11-27-11 02:31 PM

Can you play Rachmaninov's Cello Sonata in G minor?

I have been looking at this one - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A3LJ5WMKNRFKQS

Snicklefritz 11-27-11 02:39 PM

I haven't played that particular Cello Sonata but I have played and performed Beethoven Cello Sonata #3 as well as the entire Trout Quintet :)

rekmeyata 11-27-11 02:40 PM

Digital? Analog pianos sound far nicer and warmer...of course they do take up more space and cost more. So that Korg Redirekib referred to looks very nice.

redirekib 11-27-11 02:49 PM

I was look at that Korg as a nice portable for my wife. What baby are you considering? We've been toying with the idea of a Yamaha GC1M. As far as the Sonata goes - I told my cello teacher that I'd like to try the third movement - she told me to forget about it - her seniors aren't playing it and I've only been at for a year. So for now I'll just stick to listening to it on CD.

Snicklefritz 11-27-11 02:49 PM

^^Yes, I completely agree that Analog pianos are a lot nicer. Right now I'm waiting until I buy my own place within the next year to better match the size of the space and the piano. I'm planning to spend $$$ on an analog but need to spend a lot more time looking
for the right thing once I ha my own condo/house. In the meantime I need something digital to get me buy. Over time I'll be using both but over the next year or so will need to go digital...

skiahh 11-27-11 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by redirekib (Post 13537611)
As far as the Sonata goes - I told my cello teacher that I'd like to try the third movement - she told me to forget about it - her seniors aren't playing it and I've only been at for a year. So for now I'll just stick to listening to it on CD.

That doesn't sound like a good teacher, no matter how realistic she may be thinking. Try it. You can read the music on your own and know what it's supposed to sound like... why wouldn't you try it, whether she thinks you can pull it off or not??

rekmeyata 11-27-11 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by skiahh (Post 13538882)
That doesn't sound like a good teacher, no matter how realistic she may be thinking. Try it. You can read the music on your own and know what it's supposed to sound like... why wouldn't you try it, whether she thinks you can pull it off or not??

I full heartily agree. This teacher is not a true teacher, either the music you wish to perform is too advance for her or she's trying to put you into a box. If you can play the piece then practice it till you know you have it right, then go to class one day and sit and play the piece either before or immediately after class without even mentioning one word to her what you're going to do. Then play the crap out of it! Then without saying a word, get up and leave...let her start the conversation, don't look at her, don't wait for an opinion, just leave...unless she stops you to talk. It's a sales technique, you're going to sell her on the fact that you can play and play better then the seniors, and then you're going to take the sale from her, you make her come to you instead of you coming to her. Even if she doesn't say a word to you that day, she's now has this mental sound of you playing that piece and it will bug her to no end if she's a decent teacher and knows music. But you never ever approach her about it, not next day after the little private concert or next week...never. If she is completely dead as a teacher then find another teacher ASAP.

SonataInFSharp 11-28-11 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skiahh (Post 13538882)
That doesn't sound like a good teacher, no matter how realistic she may be thinking. Try it. You can read the music on your own and know what it's supposed to sound like... why wouldn't you try it, whether she thinks you can pull it off or not??

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Originally Posted by rekmeyata (Post 13539028)
I full heartily agree. This teacher is not a true teacher, either the music you wish to perform is too advance for her or she's trying to put you into a box. If you can play the piece then practice it till you know you have it right, then go to class one day and sit and play the piece either before or immediately after class without even mentioning one word to her what you're going to do. Then play the crap out of it!

As a true teacher and former student of a horrible teacher myself, I am not going to comment on these statements.

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Originally Posted by Snicklefritz (Post 13537141)
What digital pianos have the most realistic feel? I loved the Korg I had but found it probably could have had a heavier action. It did fairly well for Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Rachmaninoff, etc. However, I found it difficult to do a reasonable interpretation of anything impressionistic on it (ie Debussy) due to the way the pedals and sound decay worked.

And, you know, the whole lack of double-escapement thing. :D

idc 11-28-11 01:38 PM

I grew up with a Yamaha baby grand in the house so it's a compromise, but I have this
http://www.casio.com/products/archiv...Pianos/PX-110/

It's not superb, but for a basic digital piano it works fine, it definitely has a heavier feel to the keys (which I was also looking for) and it's decent for the price. I'm more than happy to let my kids play on it unsupervised. It's very portable (for a full size unit). I've move it around quite a bit. I would recommend headphones or a separate amp/speaker setup though. The built in speakers blow, as does the included pedal.

It has MIDI out though I rarely use that function. It has harpsichord, organ, and the ubiquitously useless "strings" (amongst a few other modes).

I think it's since been superseded by the PX 130 which is very similar.

Really though I would just visit a music store. Maybe BYO 'phones/"cans" to evaluate what sounds acceptable to you.


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