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    How many of you guys weight train seriously in addition to cycling?

    Interested in the answer. I don't compete in any sort of cycling fwiw, my athletic outlet is competitive Judo (welterweight Y/O/G senior) and TKD (welterweight black belt senior). I weigh in around 170lbs.

    Right now I'm using Mark Rippetoe's method. 3x5, all barbell training and compound lifts. Squats (of course), deadlifts, bench press, OHP and power clean. Works excellently for me, I'm stronger than I've ever been and I still don't have any trouble with my weight classes.

    I figured I'd get rec cyclists, competitive cyclists both on the road and in MTB and athletes from other sports here which is why I put it in Foo. I'm interested in whether you guys have embraced the barbell yet or not. I'd imagine most of the racers here feel a need for serious strength training but wouldn't be my first time being wrong.
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    This question is too serious for Foo.
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    Yeah but I'm afraid what will happen when the road forum inevitably says "no" and I say "htfu and lift something heavy"
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    WTF? I don't even train for cycling.
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    I do light weights, low reps for upper body. But I need to cross-train with running/swimming/etc. to lose weight and do more core strengthening - I think that will be better for most cyclists.
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    Why train the weights? They already know how to be heavy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgoat View Post
    I do light weights, low reps for upper body. But I need to cross-train with running/swimming/etc. to lose weight and do more core strengthening - I think that will be better for most cyclists.
    While this is true, stronger is pretty much always better as well. Squats in particular are excellent for cycling
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    I usually follow a 12 week Body for Life routine during the winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrankshaftYQX View Post
    While this is true, stronger is pretty much always better as well. Squats in particular are excellent for cycling
    Not neccesarily. I can squat a lot of weight but I ride like a three legged pig runs.

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    How much is a lot of weight?

    Being that a bike is human powered I can't see a cyclist being slower due to squatting. Unless they do it without full ROM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrankshaftYQX View Post
    How much is a lot of weight?

    Being that a bike is human powered I can't see a cyclist being slower due to squatting. Unless they do it without full ROM.
    Cycling requires a great deal of muscle endurance in addition to strength. Most weighlifting routines won't develop that sort of endurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
    Why train the weights? They already know how to be heavy.
    Yeah but not the weights now-a-days. They're too concerned with texting their friends and hanging out to be bothered to be heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrankshaftYQX View Post
    How much is a lot of weight?

    Being that a bike is human powered I can't see a cyclist being slower due to squatting. Unless they do it without full ROM.
    8 reps at 2.25x body weight and 3 at a little over 2.75x.

    We use the same rom as in a competition; there's a third person standing on the side to watch your rom and to give you the up command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    Cycling requires a great deal of muscle endurance in addition to strength. Most weighlifting routines won't develop that sort of endurance.
    Common wisdom but unfortunately it doesn't really hold true. Good weightlifting/oly lifting routines pretty much always help with muscular endurance, or they did for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    8 reps at 2.25x body weight and 3 at a little over 2.75x.

    We use the same rom as in a competition; there's a third person standing on the side to watch your rom and to give you the up command.
    Interested to know why you don't find a benefit to this in your cycling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrankshaftYQX View Post
    Common wisdom but unfortunately it doesn't really hold true. Good weightlifting/oly lifting routines pretty much always help with muscular endurance, or they did for me.
    30 minute weightlifting routines don't prepare the legs for a century. 30 minutes vs. 5+ hours. Not a chance.
    *this is not to say there's no benefit to weightlifting....it there weren't, I wouldn't bother with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrankshaftYQX View Post
    Interested to know why you don't find a benefit to this in your cycling?
    All I know is that I ride with a bunch of skinny guys and they drop me every week.

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    I follow a 10 week bodyweight program. It has helped me a fair amount but the most important training for cycling remains cycling.

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    I have a 25lb weight that I lift regularly. I get extra resistance if he's squirming.

    He's getting heavier every day, too.
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    I lift weights regularly, but not seriously. A moderate amount and a bunch of repetitions. I also paddle a kayak. None of this helps with the cycling, but it's good in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrankshaftYQX View Post
    Interested in the answer. I don't compete in any sort of cycling fwiw, my athletic outlet is competitive Judo (welterweight Y/O/G senior) and TKD (welterweight black belt senior). I weigh in around 170lbs.

    Right now I'm using Mark Rippetoe's method. 3x5, all barbell training and compound lifts. Squats (of course), deadlifts, bench press, OHP and power clean. Works excellently for me, I'm stronger than I've ever been and I still don't have any trouble with my weight classes.

    I figured I'd get rec cyclists, competitive cyclists both on the road and in MTB and athletes from other sports here which is why I put it in Foo. I'm interested in whether you guys have embraced the barbell yet or not. I'd imagine most of the racers here feel a need for serious strength training but wouldn't be my first time being wrong.
    Should probably put this in the training and nutrition forum if you wanted somewhat serious discussion. I am primarily a roadie but also love single track MTB stuff. I do a lot of plyometrics for the legs and use a TRX for upper body and core as well as dumbells. I am typically in the 170-175 lb range as well but would rather carry the extra weight than have the Velociraptor body type of typical roadies. Better for other athletic ventures and everyday activities.
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    The funny thing is that I weigh all of 149 lbs despite my strength training. I suppose bodyweight exercises aren't the greatest for bulking up but I am happy with the fact that I can pick up a family member who weighed 30 lbs more than me.

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