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    Bike related, so ban me.

    http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/11/28/...or-cyclocross/

    I totally want these for my vintage Falcon and Cannondale!
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    I like.

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    look like they'd be nice to try, but a bit pricey for my blood. at that price, I'd probably just buy some brifters and be done with it, though I like that you could swap in/out whatever system you wanted as long as you could find the appropriate dt shifters.
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    I'd use Campy levers and the Campy CX cross brakes...

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    This is why product managers have ulcers:

    Everyone had to have "aero" brake levers, where the cable and housing run under the handlebar tape.

    Shimano finally got with it and re-designed their groups with shifter cable and housing under the handlebar tape.

    Then some yahoo does something like this, with the shifter cable and housing coming out of the top of the hoods, like the ancient and at the time much maligned non-aero brakes.

    And everyone loves it!

    Somewhere, there's some product manager, with his head in his hands, sobbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
    This is why product managers have ulcers:

    Everyone had to have "aero" brake levers, where the cable and housing run under the handlebar tape.

    Shimano finally got with it and re-designed their groups with shifter cable and housing under the handlebar tape.

    Then some yahoo does something like this, with the shifter cable and housing coming out of the top of the hoods, like the ancient and at the time much maligned non-aero brakes.

    And everyone loves it!

    Somewhere, there's some product manager, with his head in his hands, sobbing...
    Yep. Those are as hot as anything I've seen in Beautiful Cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/11/28/...or-cyclocross/

    I totally want these for my vintage Falcon and Cannondale!
    I think I see the next upgrade to the huffy!

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    Exposed cables rock. Like a skeleton watch where the workings are exposed so you can see them. Aero cables make for a PIA when it comes to changing the cables/tape. Only advantage I see to the aero cables is I can flip the bikeover onto the bars and saddle without kinking the cables.

    I'd give those shifters a try on my vintage ride.
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    I don't have the money (I spent it at the swap meet on DA barends for my CX bike!), but those are great. I am a huge fan of full-friction shifting.
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    You are ban button proof by the way.
    I tried and tried to no avail. The server hamster just scoffed. Said not until the negatives are destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenG View Post
    You are ban button proof by the way.
    I tried and tried to no avail. The server hamster just scoffed. Said not until the negatives are destroyed.

    Funny, because I can never get you to show up on the negatives. Why is that?
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    Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    Funny, because I can never get you to show up on the negatives. Why is that?

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    He'll never tell.

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    Chris Kelly already has "Take Off" thumbies that mount next to the brake levers, and cheaper.
    http://kellybike.com/2nd_xtra_takeoff.html
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    I have ridden Take Offs and they are nice. Been a few years though and it was only on one ride, so I cannot recall how easy it was to shift them from the hoods.

    I like the look of the Retroshift offering and based on the video, they appear to be easy to use from the hoods, which is where my hands spend most of their time when I am riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
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    Shifting from the hoods is easy peasy with Take offs. From the tops too. Shifting from the drops, not doable, but you can't get everything. I currently rock the take offs (and will soon be upgrading from 6 speed shifters to 8 speed), but I have to say the retroshifts are more attractive.
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    Oh great. Now you guys have pointed me at more things to add to my wish list.
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    I'm gonna be the voice of dissent here. They just kind of repulse me. I have no idea how well they might work, but I look at them and just think "ew."
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    Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."

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    I'm with Doohickie. Total Kluge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    I'm gonna be the voice of dissent here. They just kind of repulse me. I have no idea how well they might work, but I look at them and just think "ew."
    Quote Originally Posted by ahsposo View Post
    I'm with Doohickie. Total Kluge.
    So how do you two feel about Kelly TakeOffs? They seem more klugey to me.

    I like the almost steampunkish look of the Retroshifts. Seems sort of fitting for a vintage bike. Function over form sort of feel to me. I would like to see them up close and ride them before buying, but I like them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    I'm gonna be the voice of dissent here. They just kind of repulse me. I have no idea how well they might work, but I look at them and just think "ew."
    Quote Originally Posted by ahsposo View Post
    I'm with Doohickie. Total Kluge.
    Oh.... um, can I change my answer?

    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    So how do you two feel about Kelly TakeOffs? They seem more klugey to me.

    I like the almost steampunkish look of the Retroshifts. Seems sort of fitting for a vintage bike. Function over form sort of feel to me. I would like to see them up close and ride them before buying, but I like them.
    Kelly TakeOffs are an abortion on two wheels. If you're gonna to that, just get brifters and be done with it.
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    Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    Oh.... um, can I change my answer?



    Kelly TakeOffs are an abortion on two wheels. If you're gonna to that, just get brifters and be done with it.
    Much less than brifters, allows me to use my existing shifters (as do TakeOffs), serviceable, easy to restore to original condition, works with any number of gears, and on and on. Does most of what brifters do at a fraction of the cost and does things brifters cannot due, like operate in friction mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    So how do you two feel about Kelly TakeOffs? They seem more klugey to me.

    I like the almost steampunkish look of the Retroshifts. Seems sort of fitting for a vintage bike. Function over form sort of feel to me. I would like to see them up close and ride them before buying, but I like them.
    You captured that perfectly.

    The Kelly TakeOffs look like a hack job to me.
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    You produced some valuble info here for my older bikes,thanks jsharr you-all.
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    I have a few pairs of these kicking around.... Suntour Command Shifters... which make the Take Offs look like a cludge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    Oh.... um, can I change my answer?
    Oh, DooDoo! Is the Romance gone?

    I'm gonna cut my wrists.

    After I take some random pills.

    After I wreck my car.

    Oh. Pooh.

    Oh, DooDoo don't you wuve me anymore?

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